[Follow Him]

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Greetings Chris!
Judging by your comment on how things are done here, it is not our place to question His word in His Book
Luke 14:26
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

Any who are NOT save and His true disciple ARE unsaved trash!

Hi Dantrague and thanks for the greetings. I am definately not here to question Gods word. I am however willing to question some of the members views on the Bible. I hope that I am not taken the wrong way, but I believe we should all hold each other accountable to the Word of God. We are not perfect, but we should strive to follow Gods word daily. And I would have to disagree with you about calling people unsaved trash. Again, its degrading to refer to someone as 'trash'. And honestly, I cant see Jesus calling someone trash, so who are we to do so? We should approach people with love...not supply non-believers with ammunation as to why they dont want to be a Christian. I mean, is this really how we are going to advance Gods Kingdom???? By calling everyone unsaved trash? Unsaved...maybe....trash...I dont think is appropriate. Just my opinion.

[GOD=life]

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I am entitled to by the way

No, you're not entitled to expressing your opinion on a private forum or wasting our precious time by mocking God.

We don't work with opinions, we work with facts. They are derived from the Bible and confirmed independently by science. That works for us.

If you want to write your own Bible, go ahead. But remember that you're putting God out of the equation. I hope for you that in addition to making your own Bible, you can also make your own Heaven, because you're not getting into God's one.

[GOD=life]

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Look, my point is that I joined your website to give some LOVING words of rebuke.

If someone told you LOVINGLY that your mother is a whore, would you not punch him in the face? You are coming in here, a forum with thousands of members who have researched every single position very carefully and tell them they are mistaken. Some modesty would be nice.

I am not a Bible scholar, nor do I pretend to be.

Then why not leave the teaching of the Bible to actual Bible scholars? Again: just because YOU believe in some Kumbaya God does not mean God is actually so. Maybe the atheists got to you with their "good works"?

[Cranky Old Man]

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It is truly sad to me that you feel you have that authority to popishly declare men and woman to be saved on the sole basis that they agree with you and your beliefs.

You seem to have conveniently skipped a few parts when you where reading your Bible.

Leviticus 19:15 "In righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour."

John 7:24 "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment."

You need to understand that you and your church are not perfect yourselves.

We are human and therefor not perfect. The Bible, being the Word of God, however is indeed perfect.

First off, I was only stating my opinion, which I am entitled to by the way.

So was Noah. He can be harsh, but that is how tough love must be. He is just trying to save your soul.

Matthew 10:28 "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."

I agree it is the most accurate

So we agree KJV is the most accurate Bible yet you say

but to say that all other forms of the Bible are lesser is somewhat of a stretch

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I am, however, a 'True Christian', but you can label me whatever you want to.

No you are not. A True Christian follows the entire Bible. Every letter of it. We don't skip the parts of the Bible which we don't like because they might be tough or harsh. We follow it for 100%, no compromises.

[Follow Him]

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No, you're not entitled to expressing your opinion on a private forum or wasting our precious time by mocking God.

We don't work with opinions, we work with facts. They are derived from the Bible and confirmed independently by science. That works for us.

If you want to write your own Bible, go ahead. But remember that you're putting God out of the equation. I hope for you that in addition to making your own Bible, you can also make your own Heaven, because you're not getting into God's one.

What? Are you serious right now? How...how did I mock God? You said you work with Biblical facts....ok. Eph. 2:8 says For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God.
In other words, God and God alone sends someone to Heaven or Hell. HOW DARE YOU TRY TO TAKE THAT CREDIT! You and all these men and woman labeled 'true christian' seem to be the ones who are making a mockery of God. God have mercy on you for claiming to be Christian but not following His word.

[Cranky Old Man]

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You and all these men and woman labeled 'true christian' seem to be the ones who are making a mockery of God. God have mercy on you for claiming to be Christian but not following His word.

You seem to have conveniently skipped a few parts when you where reading your Bible.

Leviticus 19:15 "In righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour."

John 7:24 "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment."

There is a difference in following parts of the Bible and following the entire Bible.

[GOD=life]

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God have mercy on you for claiming to be Christian but not following His word.

On the contrary, we follow His every word.

2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
2 Peter 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
Matthew 4:4 Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Matthew 7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
Matthew 7:26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:

But hey, feel free to tell God that in your opinion, God was wrong about a few things. That's the difference between us: you think you know better than God. Matthew 7 is pretty clear where you will be going with that kind of an attitude.

[Follow Him]

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You seem to have conveniently skipped a few parts when you where reading your Bible.

Leviticus 19:15 "In righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour."

John 7:24 "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment."

We are human and therefor not perfect. The Bible, being the Word of God, however is indeed perfect.

So was Noah. He can be harsh, but that is how tough love must be. He is just trying to save your soul.

Matthew 10:28 "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."

So we agree KJV is the most accurate Bible yet you say .

No you are not. A True Christian follows the entire Bible. Every letter of it. We don't skip the parts of the Bible which we don't like because they might be tough or harsh. We follow it for 100%, no compromises.

Again, you have no right to say I am not a Christian. You do not know me, therefore you cant 'righteously judge.' I have by the way, read the verses you referred to. And I agree...judge not by appearence, but by righteous judgement...again, you claim to be righteous. I havent known you for 5 minutes, but just by reading the garbage you put on here, I can guarentee you are not! Arrogance and pride is not of the Lord, my God. I actually love that which you put Matt. 10:28! And I agree with every word...Its amazing to me how 2 people can read the same verse and get 2 different things out of it. I guess thats why it is the LIVING word of God. Look, we can argue all day. I just wanted to join this to state my opinions, not argue every post! Maybe this is fun for you. I dont know?

[GOD=life]

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Again, you have no right to say I am not a Christian.

And again, you are making this all about you. God is not some status symbol to show off to everyone "look at me, I'm Christian!" -- that is tantamount to blasphemy.

You do not know me, ...

We know that:

1. Someone who rejects the entire Bible is not a Christian
2. Someone who thinks he knows better than God is not a Christian
3. Someone who thinks Christianity is some kind of status symbol is not a Christian

but just by reading the garbage you put on here, I can guarentee you are not!

4. Someone who considers references to the Bible to be garbage is not a Christian

how 2 people can read the same verse and get 2 different things out of it

That's because 1 person reads what's there and the other reads what he wants to read. You are so used to this that it's automatic for you; you don't even notice it anymore. I can assure you that there are thousands of people here who do read the Bible correctly. It's a growing movement of people who are tired of living a false Christian lie and want the real deal.

Do you not want the real deal?

YIC

[Cranky Old Man]

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Maybe this is fun for you. I dont know?

Not really. Arguing with people who lack the ability to read can be really tiresome. You seem to be unable to actually read the posting here, just like you are unable to really read the Bible. Have fun in hell .

[Follow Him]

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Guys, this may be my last post. It is so sad to see people who actually believe themselves to be followers of Christ when all you do is take verses out of the Bible, out of context mind you, and use it to support your claim. I dont know how any of you can actually believe yourselves to be 'true christians.' You say you follow the word of God, but you obviously dont! You can quote it well, but you live it not! Have you become so blind to your arrogance that you believe what comes out of your mouths. God didnt command you to damn anyone to Hell, but to offer hope through Christ!!!!!! 1 Cor. 13:4-6 says Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or BOAST; IT IS NOT ARROGANT OR RUDE. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful;it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. My point is, you dont do things out of love...like Jesus taught. You do them out of spite...mocking visitors and new members. It actually made me sick to give you the benefit of joining your little cult, but I had to take a shot to talk to you about Gods true word! You can mock me all you want, but God is NOT in your church! God have mercy on you all.

[Samuel Coleridge]

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Secondly, you do realize the KJV is not the first ever written Bible right? I mean, I agree it is the most accurate, but to say that all other forms of the Bible are lesser is somewhat of a stretch...but thats a completely different argument.

Most accurate? The King James has almost 2000 mistranslations in it.

I would stick to something like the NIV. It's more accurate and simple to read.

Look, my point is that I joined your website to give some LOVING words of rebuke.

I'm sure they appreciate that!

What? Are you serious right now? How...how did I mock God? You said you work with Biblical facts....ok. Eph. 2:8 says For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God.

I see you're another sola fide Landover type. You have more in common with them than you think.


Matthew 25:41-45
Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.
"They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?'
"He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'



John 5:29
and come out—those who have done good will rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise to be condemned.

Romans 2:6-7
God "will give to each person according to what he has done." To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.

You see? It's all about works plus faith.

God have mercy on you for claiming to be Christian but not following His word.

I could say the same of you.

Your humble servant in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ,
Sam

[James Hutchins]

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Guys, this may be my last post. It is so sad to see people who actually believe themselves to be followers of Christ when all you do is take verses out of the Bible, out of context mind you, and use it to support your claim. I dont know how any of you can actually believe yourselves to be 'true christians.' You say you follow the word of God, but you obviously dont! You can quote it well, but you live it not! Have you become so blind to your arrogance that you believe what comes out of your mouths. God didnt command you to damn anyone to Hell, but to offer hope through Christ!!!!!! 1 Cor. 13:4-6 says Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or BOAST; IT IS NOT ARROGANT OR RUDE. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful;it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. My point is, you dont do things out of love...like Jesus taught. You do them out of spite...mocking visitors and new members. It actually made me sick to give you the benefit of joining your little cult, but I had to take a shot to talk to you about Gods true word! You can mock me all you want, but God is NOT in your church! God have mercy on you all.

Young man, we follow the Bible. We follow every word exactly how it is written. Not just some of the words, not just the warm and squishy parts but the cold and dank parts too. God would not of provided them to us if they we not just as important.
1 Corinthians 1 (King James Version)


1Paul called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother,
2Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both their's and our's:
3Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
4I thank my God always on your behalf, for the grace of God which is given you by Jesus Christ;
5That in every thing ye are enriched by him, in all utterance, and in all knowledge;
6Even as the testimony of Christ was confirmed in you:
7So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:
8Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.
10Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
11For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you.
12Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.
13Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?
14I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;
15Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.
16And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.
17For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
18For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
19For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
20Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
21For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
22For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
23But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
24But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
25Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
26For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
27But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
28And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
29That no flesh should glory in his presence.
30But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption: 31That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.



None of what you wrote is here. What you have is what YOU think God meant, not what he said. You hear the word "Fire' and run screaming when in actuallity, the complete conversation was "I do not want to fire him because he is not a mindless drone".
There is a difference you know.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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[...] 1 Cor. 13:4-6 says Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or BOAST; IT IS NOT ARROGANT OR RUDE. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful;it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth.

That's not what it says at all:- 1Co:13:4: Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
1Co:13:5: Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
1Co:13:6: Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

[...]I had to take a shot to talk to you about Gods true word!

Then why do you not use KJV1611?

You can mock me all you want,

I have no intention of mocking you.

However, you have made some baseless accusations there. It is almost as if you think that we are upsetting your feeble understanding of the Glory that is revealed to us in God's Word. This is incredible!

You find where the Bible has been misquoted by one of our number and point it out to me. I would also be obliged if you would point out where it has been taken out of context.

I will then deal with the matter.

[Levi Jones]

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You can quote it well, but you live it not!

Yoda?