[Sister Charli]

Re: Hello I'm new and wanted to say a few things...

I'm pretty sure I type better than you. I live in Canada, where it is legal to marry the same sex. And a human being can't be compared to a car or an animal silly. Also, being gay is a male sin. And "that" kinda stuff is for people who are in love and married.

Praise the Lord.

The message is finally getting thru.

Homersexuality is indeed a sin AshBee.

[AshBee]

Re: Hello I'm new and wanted to say a few things...

Praise the Lord.

The message is finally getting thru.

Homersexuality is indeed a sin AshBee.

Yes I do think it's a MALE sin only because there were more about it in the bible but also...There are two Biblical same-sex relationships (one between two women, the other two men) reported in the Bible in a positive light. They appear to have progressed well beyond friendship. They were likely homosexual affairs, although not necessarily sexually active relationships:
+ Ruth 1:16, 2:10-11 between Ruth and Naomi
+ 1 Samuel 18:1-4, 1 Samuel 20:41-42 and 2 Samuel 1:25-26 between David and Jonathan. (Some translations of the Bible distort the original Hebrew text, particularly of 1 Samuel 20) It is the subject of endless debate whether St. Paul's prohibition of at least some homosexual acts was:
+ for the people in the vicinity of the Mediterranean during the 1st Century CE, or
+ for all people, forever.

[Sister Charli]

Re: Hello I'm new and wanted to say a few things...

Oh dear. My optimism was short lived.

Homersexuality is a sin. Period. Not a sin just for blokes.

You can't say that God wrote the bible but only intended blokes to live by his word.

What would you say if a homer guy came in here and said it was only referring to lezbos.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Hello I'm new and wanted to say a few things...

Yes I do think it's a MALE sin only because there were more about it in the bible but also...There are two Biblical same-sex relationships (one between two women, the other two men) reported in the Bible in a positive light. They appear to have progressed well beyond friendship. They were likely homosexual affairs, although not necessarily sexually active relationships:
+ Ruth 1:16, 2:10-11 between Ruth and Naomi
+ 1 Samuel 18:1-4, 1 Samuel 20:41-42 and 2 Samuel 1:25-26 between David and Jonathan. (Some translations of the Bible distort the original Hebrew text, particularly of 1 Samuel 20) It is the subject of endless debate whether St. Paul's prohibition of at least some homosexual acts was:
+ for the people in the vicinity of the Mediterranean during the 1st Century CE, or
+ for all people, forever.

In other words, you've decided that you know what God wants better than the book he left us. So you're smarter than God and have created a god in your own image.

I really cannot understand how somebody can call themselves homosexual and Christian, the two are incompatable. I mean sure, I understand that somebody can call themselves anything they want. But you just can't be the two, you're either a gay false Christian, in which case, why bother with the name since your going to hell anyway, or you have to give up your homosexuality. I mean have you actually read any of the Bible?

The Ruth quote is just her loving her mother-in-law. The same with the Samuel quotes. We're called intollerant, but we're not the ones that declare that anyone who claims to love someone to be homosexual. I love my in-laws, does that make me homosexual? According to you it does. No where in Ruth or Samuel does it say anything about either being homosexual. If they were homosexual lovers, why would Naomi find Ruth a husband?

I'll add a new post with all the scripture against homosexuality as it's going to take me a while.

[AshBee]

Re: Hello I'm new and wanted to say a few things...

GOOD NEWS FOR ALL PEOPLE! You, and all people, are created in God's image! (Gen. 1:27) You are special! (Ps 8:4-5) There is NOTHING that can separate you from the love of God. (Romans 8:39) WHOSOEVER believes has eternal life. (John 3:16, 6:51, Romans 1:16-17, 10:13) God is with you-challenging oppression and injustice! (Isaiah 42: 6-7, 58:6, Amos 5:24, Micah 6:8, Luke 4:18-22) You are a part of the New Covenant! The New Covenant is one of grace (which means unearned love) in Jesus Christ. It is not concerned with gender roles or sexual orientation for in Christ there is "neither male nor female". (Gal. 3:28) In fact, do you know what Jesus had to say about homosexuality? NOTHING! - not one word! It was a non-issue not even worth mentioning!

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Hello I'm new and wanted to say a few things...

GOOD NEWS FOR ALL PEOPLE! You, and all people, are created in God's image! (Gen. 1:27) You are special! (Ps 8:4-5) There is NOTHING that can separate you from the love of God. (Romans 8:39) WHOSOEVER believes has eternal life. (John 3:16, 6:51, Romans 1:16-17, 10:13) God is with you-challenging oppression and injustice! (Isaiah 42: 6-7, 58:6, Amos 5:24, Micah 6:8, Luke 4:18-22) You are a part of the New Covenant! The New Covenant is one of grace (which means unearned love) in Jesus Christ. It is not concerned with gender roles or sexual orientation for in Christ there is "neither male nor female". (Gal. 3:28) In fact, do you know what Jesus had to say about homosexuality? NOTHING! - not one word! It was a non-issue not even worth mentioning!

This, coming from a degenerate pervert.

Oh, and you're wrong.

Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Hello I'm new and wanted to say a few things...

Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Deuteronomy 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

1 Kings 15:12 And [Asa] took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made.

1 Kings 22:46 And the remnant of the sodomites, which remained in the days of his father Asa, [Jehoshaphat] took out of the land.

2 Kings 23:7 And [Josiah] brake down the houses of the sodomites, that were by the house of the LORD, where the women wove hangings for the grove.

The last three I placed the names instead of he that is in the scripture, I also want to point out that they were all considered blessed men of God.

Isaiah 3:9 The shew of their countenance doth witness against them; and they declare their sin as Sodom, they hide it not. Woe unto their soul! for they have rewarded evil unto themselves.

Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

Romans 1:31-32 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Corinthians 6:9-10 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

1 Timothy 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

2 Timothy 3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

Jude 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.


You can actually read those scriptures and then say that God loves homosexuals? If you can, then there is only one scripture that I can think of that suits you.

Proverbs 30:20 Such [is] the way of an adulterous woman; she eateth, and wipeth her mouth, and saith, I have done no wickedness.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Hello I'm new and wanted to say a few things...

In fact, do you know what Jesus had to say about homosexuality? NOTHING! - not one word! It was a non-issue not even worth mentioning!

Sorry, but you are clearly in the wrong. For one thing, Jesus did say much about homosexuality, because God mentions it many times in the Old Testament. Jesus and God are the same, wouldn't you agree? Or is John 10:30 another verse you throw out? "I and my Father are one."

The only way around that is if you deny the Trinity (and thereby deny the Bible) and if you deny the Old Testament having any relevance (further denying the Bible.) Jesus Himself affirms the Old Testament and tells us we must follow those laws.


Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

John 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me.
John 5:47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

Now, what did Moses write? Ah yes...

Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Just because Jesus Himself did not say in his earthly form that homosexuality is wrong does not mean it's not a sin. The Bible says it is a sin and the Bible is inspired by God (Jesus).

2nd Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Hello I'm new and wanted to say a few things...

GOOD NEWS FOR ALL PEOPLE! You, and all people, are created in God's image! (Gen. 1:27) You are special! (Ps 8:4-5) There is NOTHING that can separate you from the love of God. (Romans 8:39) WHOSOEVER believes has eternal life. (John 3:16, 6:51, Romans 1:16-17, 10:13) God is with you-challenging oppression and injustice! (Isaiah 42: 6-7, 58:6, Amos 5:24, Micah 6:8, Luke 4:18-22) You are a part of the New Covenant! The New Covenant is one of grace (which means unearned love) in Jesus Christ. It is not concerned with gender roles or sexual orientation for in Christ there is "neither male nor female". (Gal. 3:28) In fact, do you know what Jesus had to say about homosexuality? NOTHING! - not one word! It was a non-issue not even worth mentioning!

How much of this do you go through in a year?


Gen. 1:27 ~ Adam was made in Gods image, we've fallen a long way since then.

Psalms 8 is a psalms of praise. David said it's wonderful that you created us, thank you. Please try to read this stuff in context.

Romans 8:39 Please read all of Romans 8, this is true IF YOU ARE DEAD IN CHRIST.

John 3:16 ~ again, in context
18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.





Yet still in John 6 when Jesus was explaining what he was saying.
65And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.



Romans 1:16 ~ So Paul isn't ashamed of being a Christian, you however...


Romans 10 you are misunderstanding or else how could Jesus have said this?
Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.


As for that new covenant bunk, that's all it is, bunk. Try actually pulling the shrink wrap off of your Bible and reading it.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Hello I'm new and wanted to say a few things...

GOOD NEWS FOR ALL PEOPLE! You, and all people, are created in God's image! (Gen. 1:27) You are special! (Ps 8:4-5) There is NOTHING that can separate you from the love of God. (Romans 8:39) WHOSOEVER believes has eternal life. (John 3:16, 6:51, Romans 1:16-17, 10:13) God is with you-challenging oppression and injustice! (Isaiah 42: 6-7, 58:6, Amos 5:24, Micah 6:8, Luke 4:18-22)

Wait for it.

You are a part of the New Covenant!

If it is a "New Covenant," why do you quote so much Old Testament scripture?

Also quote me the scriptures specifically regarding a New Covenant from the Bible.

It is not concerned with gender roles or sexual orientation for in Christ there is "neither male nor female". (Gal. 3:28)

Galatians was Paul's first Epistle. Did he change his mind later when he said you women weren't allowed to speak?

In fact, do you know what Jesus had to say about homosexuality? NOTHING! - not one word! It was a non-issue not even worth mentioning!

I see you quote Paul in one sentence (Galatians), but rebuke him in the next that Jesus didn't say to not be gay. Paul had definite ideas about the roles of woman and that gays and lezbos deserved death and damnation.

Who do you think wrote most of the New Testament?