[Oakland "Reb" Griner]

Re: This is outrageous!

How about that, a real live Mudslime posting here.

You must be out of wells to poison, homes to burn, sheep to steal, children to enslave, men to murder and women to rape.

Are you some kind of slacker Mudslime??

[Imam Rashik]

Re: This is outrageous!

Your book denies Jesus' divinity, claiming He is a mere prophet instead of the Son of God. That is blasphemy. And you wonder why we do not recognize your false idol?

The Messiah Jesus come before Prophet Mohammed. Just as Prophet Moses came before Prophet Jesus.

Prophet Mohammed made the teachings pure again and the The Holy Quran is the pure from the covenant breaking.

The Holy Quran recognizes Prophet Jesus as the true Prophet he was.

SURA 4
171. O followers of the Book! do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak [lies] against Allah, but [speak] the truth; the Messiah, Isa son of Marium is only a messenger of Allah and His Word which He communicated to Marium and a spirit from Him; believe therefore in Allah and His messengers, and say not, Three. Desist, it is better for you; Allah is only one Allah; far be It from His glory that He should have a son, whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is His, and Allah is sufficient for a Protector.
172. The Messiah does by no means disdain that he should be a servant of Allah, nor do the angels who are near to Him, and whoever disdains His service and is proud, He will gather them all together to Himself.
173. Then as for those who believe and do good, He will pay them fully their rewards and give them more out of His grace; and as for those who disdain and are proud, He will chastise them with a painful chastisement. And they shall not find for themselves besides Allah a guardian or a helper

[Imam Rashik]

Re: This is outrageous!

Where is this "Allan" mentioned in the Holy Bible? Nobody cares about your islamofascist cult manual. Bible chapter and verse.

Pastor Ezekiel the one you call God (pbuh) in your Holy Book is Allah (pbuh). Your Holy Book mentions Allah (pbuh) many times but refer to him as God (pbuh).

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: This is outrageous!

Pastor Ezekiel the one you call God (pbuh) in your Holy Book is Allah (pbuh). Your Holy Book mentions Allah (pbuh) many times but refer to him as God (pbuh).

God's name isn't Allan. It's God.

[Imam Rashik]

Re: This is outrageous!

How about that, a real live Mudslime posting here.

You must be out of wells to poison, homes to burn, sheep to steal, children to enslave, men to murder and women to rape.

Are you some kind of slacker Mudslime??

Allah (pbuh) does forbid communicating with those who have not made war against us. Do you always fight?, there is time for peace and time for war.

SURA 60
8. Allah does not forbid you respecting those who have not made war against you on account of [your] religion, and have not driven you forth from your homes, that you show them kindness and deal with them justly; surely Allah loves the doers of justice.
9. Allah only forbids you respecting those who made war upon you on account of [your] religion, and drove you forth from your homes and backed up [others] in your expulsion, that you make friends with them, and whoever makes friends with them, these are the unjust.

[Imam Rashik]

Re: This is outrageous!

God's name isn't Allan. It's God.

Pastor Ezekiel I never called God (pbuh) Allan.

SURA 31
6. And of men is he who takes instead frivolous discourse to lead astray from Allah's path without knowledge, and to take it for a mockery; these shall have an abasing chastisement.

SURA 18
56. And We do not send messengers but as givers of good news and warning, and those who disbelieve make a false contention that they may render null thereby the truth, and they take My communications and that with which they are warned for a mockery.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: This is outrageous!

Hey sand nigra, can you answer THESE QUESTIONS?

[Imam Rashik]

Re: This is outrageous!

Hey sand nigra, can you answer THESE QUESTIONS?

Why are you disputing what Allah (pbuh) has given us. Is anyone better or more knowing than Allah (pbuh)

SURA 2.
139. Say: Do you dispute with us about Allah, and He is our Lord and your Lord, and we shall have our deeds and you shall have your deeds, and we are sincere to Him.
140. Nay! do you say that Ibrahim and Ismail and Yaqoub and the tribes were Jews or Christians? Say: Are you better knowing or Allah? And who is more unjust than he who conceals a testimony that he has from Allah? And Allah is not at all heedless of what you do.

SURA 3.
177. Surely those who have bought unbelief at the price of faith shall do no harm at all to Allah, and they shall have a painful chastisement.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: This is outrageous!

Oh I get it! You're trying to do magic!

[Imam Rashik]

Re: This is outrageous!

Oh I get it! You're trying to do magic!

There is no magic in Allah (pbuh). The jinn has no association with Allah (pbuh). Allah (pbuh) did create the jinn, but does do His work.

SURA 6.
100. And they make the jinn associates with Allah, while He created them, and they falsely attribute to Him sons and daughters without knowledge; glory be to Him, and highly exalted is He above what they ascribe [to Him].

SURA 7
179. And certainly We have created for hell many of the jinn and the men; they have hearts with which they do not understand, and they have eyes with which they do not see, and they have ears with which they do not hear; they are as cattle, nay, they are in worse errors; these are the heedless ones.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: This is outrageous!

You're not fooling me!

"A la peanutbutter sandwhiches!" Right!?

[Imam Rashik]

Re: This is outrageous!

You're not fooling me!

"A la peanutbutter sandwhiches!" Right!?

You Holy Book warns you of the use magic. Just as the The Holy Quran does.

SURA 2.
101. And when there came to them a Messenger from Allah verifying that which they have, a party of those who were given the Book threw the Book of Allah behind their backs as if they knew nothing.
102. And they followed what the Shaitans chanted of sorcery in the reign of Sulaiman, and Sulaiman was not an unbeliever, but the Shaitans disbelieved, they taught men sorcery and that was sent down to the two angels at Babel, Harut and Marut, yet these two taught no man until they had said, "Surely we are only a trial, therefore do not be a disbeliever." Even then men learned from these two, magic by which they might cause a separation between a man and his wife; and they cannot hurt with it any one except with Allah's permission, and they learned what harmed them and did not profit them, and certainly they know that he who bought it should have no share of good in the hereafter and evil was the price for which they sold their souls, had they but known this.
103. And if they had believed and guarded themselves [against evil], reward from Allah would certainly have been better; had they but known [this].

[handmaiden]

Re: This is outrageous!

So, Mister My-Religion-Is-Truer-Than-Yours-Because-It-Supposedly-Builds-On-The-Beliefs-That-Came-Before-It, what about the Baha'i Faith? I'll throw in some Wikipedia babble to alert other readers about it (not that you can trust Wikipedia, but since it's a false religion it doesn't really matter if they get it wrong.)

From what I have heard, Judaism and Christianity are legally allowed in Muslim countries because Islam believes that their tenants are precursors to the "final" dispensation of Islam. Baha'i came after Islam, so you people eradicate it like rats chewing on an oriental carpet.

So much for all your tolerance. As far as you are concerned, Jews and Christians have it a little right, but Islam got it perfect and God stopped sending out prophets at that point. Anything that comes after Muhammad is from Satan.

Hmmm . . . that's kind of how True Christians consider Mormonism. The guy who started it tore some pages out of a Bible, mixed it up with some fancy sounding prose and insisted that it was God's latest, but final word to humankind.

Listen, pal. God started the ball rolling with the Old Testament. In it, He handed us all manner of hints to let us know about Jesus. Jesus came, did what had to be done to fulfill the Old Testament and God directed His contemporaries to write about it so that we would have His Word to guide us until Jesus comes back to wrap up a few loose ends (which are mentioned in both the OT and NT).

There was no need of any other prophets or messengers because God came down personally in the mortal form of Jesus Himself.

So, do the math. Jesus is God. He came directly so that nothing could get distorted by the hand of man. After He ascended into heaven, why would He send another messenger? Do you think that He snapped His fingers after a thousand years and said, "Darn! I knew there was something that I forgot to mention!"?

There was no logical reason He would send a mere man to do a job He already had His Son take care of. The idea that Muhammad was a legitimate mouth piece for God is therefore ridiculous.

We, Christians take your claims of divinely revealed knowledge about as seriously as you take the Baha'i guys. In other words, we are offended beyond measure.

So take your camel crap that you impudently call religious "truth" and get out of here!


Boldly Yours,

Handmaiden



The Bahá'í Faith is a monotheistic religion founded by Bahá'u'lláh in nineteenth-century Persia, emphasizing the spiritual unity of all humankind.
In the Bahá'í Faith, religious history is seen to have unfolded through a series of divine messengers, each of whom established a religion that was suited to the needs of the time and the capacity of the people. These messengers have included Abraham, the Buddha Jesus Muhammad and others, and most recently the Báband Bahá'u'lláh.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: This is outrageous!

Since Sister Handmaiden brought up the Mormons, I have one thing.

The prophets in the Bible spoke to God. Joseph Smith and Muhammad spoke to "an angel" so even if they were telling the truth, it's just an angel. Oh, and what does the Bible say about angels?

2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

Somehow I don't think accepting new teachings from an angel is such a trustworthy thing to do.

[Titus Templeton]

Re: This is outrageous!

Since Sister Handmaiden brought up the Mormons, I have one thing.

The prophets in the Bible spoke to God. Joseph Smith and Muhammad spoke to "an angel" so even if they were telling the truth, it's just an angel. Oh, and what does the Bible say about angels?

2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

Somehow I don't think accepting new teachings from an angel is such a trustworthy thing to do.

Amen to that Sister!