[Adilene]

Re: Horrified, appalled? I'm hoping this isn't a real church.

She tells us that we don't know the Bible, and then when asked to quote the Bible she tells us it's too hard!

That figures.

[WWJDnow]

Re: Horrified, appalled? I'm hoping this isn't a real church.

Hello, Devon.

Glad to run into a fellow Christian visitor! We get so many unsaved persons here who seem to think that insulting us is going to get us to turn our lives away from Jesus; the Devil never stops tempting us, does he? It's nice to finally run into someone who, though you may disagree with some of our views, at least does so respectfully and from the point of view of loving God Almighty and seeing that the Bible is God's Truth.

I believe that you are wrong about our church, and I look forward to working with you to see how the Bible tells us we Christians must live our lives. Perhaps we can learn from each other.

Perhaps the first thing we need to do, however, is to clarify what it is that we actually believe. I am sure you agree with us that God is Love. However, I think you are operating under a misconception about how that Love manifests itself and why Jesus spoke in the way that He did. In your view, does Jesus want everyone to be saved?

YIC

[Nobar King]

Re: Horrified, appalled? I'm hoping this isn't a real church.

I'm just curious if Devon has been visiting the Jewish and Muslim chat rooms today to tell them that they're doing it wrong, too, since he seems to know so much about his faith.

[Devon~]

Re: Horrified, appalled? I'm hoping this isn't a real church.

Welcome to God's favorite forum, Devon. I'm guessing you're a foreigner with a name like that, so I'll tell everyone to talk slowly so you'll understand. 'Devon' is not my name, it is the country in which I live, and my profile clearly says I'm British, and I think I even said I was British in my first post. I understand English thanks, I'm a writer, you do not need to insult me.

You really haven't shared much about yourself. It seems like you waltzed in here with a chip on your shoulder. Maybe you feel qualified to judge us?
[COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]I'm simply upset. The way you act scares me. [/COLOR]

If you'd like to find out more about Landover Baptist Church, please read THIS thread created especially for new posters.

If you have a question, use the "search" function before posting it. Most likely it is being discussed somewhere on this Godly forum. Please don't waste God's precious bandwidth.

[COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]I've read that link, and many others. [/COLOR]

You will keep a respectful tongue in your head whenever addressing your betters, which includes all True Christians™. Failure to do so, or any attempt at inciting debate or mockery of God's Divine Plan, can and will result in the suspension of your posting privileges.
[COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]Why is 'true Christians' trade marked?? I am not mocking God, I love God, I would never ever mock God. Did you even read my post?[/COLOR]

Your rights on this forum are listed HERE. If you feel that any of these rights have been violated, please don't hesitate to contact a Pastor at once.

[COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]I'll be talking to Jesus and my own pastor, thanks, . . . your pastors are . . . scary, in short. Anyone who would condone, let alone commit, abuse and torture isn't the kind of person I'd want to talk to, to be honest. [/COLOR]

[Adilene]

Re: Horrified, appalled? I'm hoping this isn't a real church.

I'm just curious if Devon has been visiting the Jewish and Muslim chat rooms today to tell them that they're doing it wrong, too, since he seems to know so much about his faith.

Probably not. But Devon is "appalled and horrified" by this church. I wonder why. Maybe because Devon truly doesn't understand the bible, and is embarrassed by the fact that he don't know as much as he thinks he does.

[Nobar King]

Re: Horrified, appalled? I'm hoping this isn't a real church.

'Devon' is not my name, it is the country in which I live, and my profile clearly says I'm British, and I think I even said I was British in my first post. I understand English thanks, I'm a writer, you do not need to insult me.

The country of Devon. That's cute. Are you the King?

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Horrified, appalled? I'm hoping this isn't a real church.

I am not adding anything, I am understanding.

You are twisting the Holy Bible. What you call "understanding" is really changing it's meaning. There is no need to "understand" the Holy Bible. It's the most clear book in existence and all you have to do is read it and take it literally. Always.

You are breaking God's laws. The punishment for that is eternal damnation to Hell unless you repent and ask Jesus for forgiveness.

But you might be too proud to repent? Proverbs 29:23 "A man's pride shall bring him low: but honour shall uphold the humble in spirit." Although I have no doubt that you will "understand" this to mean something completely different.

Proverbs 19:25 "Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge."

Then why are there obvious differences in writing styles of the different authors? God determined what they wrote, yes, but how they wrote? What of the poetry in the Bible? The letters? My keyboard, though, does not always type how I intend, or how I would speak.

So what you are saying is that 2nd Timothy 3:16 isn't true. Or are you saying the almighty God who created everything isn't capable of having a few people write down the right words?

[Adilene]

Re: Horrified, appalled? I'm hoping this isn't a real church.

[COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]I'll be talking to Jesus and my own pastor, thanks, . . . your pastors are . . . scary, in short. Anyone who would condone, let alone commit, abuse and torture isn't the kind of person I'd want to talk to, to be honest. [/COLOR]

Wow your post is a mess! Learn how to use the message board. And WHY are you here? You think we are scary? No one is forcing you to be here!

[Levi Jones]

Re: Horrified, appalled? I'm hoping this isn't a real church.

Jesus died for ALL the sins of the WORLD. I'm not going to reference it, because I'm sure you'e familiar with that verse. This, yes, means that believers go to heaven and unbelievers go to hell, however, until a man's life is finished, that is not so,

The Bible says that Jesus only came for the Elect not for everyone.

Exodus 4:21, 14:4, 8, 17; Deuteronomy 2:30, 9:4-7, 29:4; Joshua 11:19; 1 Samuel 2:25, 3:14; 2 Samuel 17:14; Psalm 105:25; Proverbs 15:8, 26, 28:9; Isaiah 53:11; Jeremiah 24:7; Matthew 1:21, 11:25-27, 13:10-15, 44-46, 15:13, 20:28, 22:14, 24:22; Luke 8:15, 13:23, 19:42; John 5:21, 6:37, 44, 65, 8:42-47, 10:11, 14, 26-28, 11:49-53, 12:37-41, 13:1, 18, 15:16, 17:2, 6, 9, 18:9, 37; Acts 2:39, 13:48, 18:27, 19:9; Romans 9:10-26, 11:5-10; 1 Corinthians 1:18-31, 2:14; 2 Corinthians 2:14-16, 4:3; Galatians 1:3; Ephesians 2:1-10; Colossians 2:13; 2 Thessalonians 2:9-14; 2 Timothy 2:20, 25; Titus 2:14; Hebrews 1:3, 14, 2:9, 16 (cp. Galatians 3:29, 4:28-31), 9:28; 1 Peter 2:8; 2 Peter 2:7; 1 John 4:6; Jude 1, 14; Revelation 13:8, 17:8, 15-18, 21:27.

Your very attitudes towards others is the opposite of what it should be. We are to love our neighbours, regardless of who they are,

Our neighbors are NOT unsaved trash. Read the Parable of the Good Samaritan and get back to me. Luke 10:25-37

Our neighbors are those who show Christian love and mercy, NOT unsaved trash.

what they have done, what they believe, what colour their skin is, what gender they are, and what sexuality.

Are you sure you have read the Bible?

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Romans 1:26-27 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Deuteronomy 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

1 Kings 15:11-12 And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, as did David his father.
And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made.

1 Kings 22:45-46 Now the rest of the acts of Jehoshaphat, and his might that he shewed, and how he warred, are they not written in the book of the chronicles of the kings of Judah?
And the remnant of the sodomites, which remained in the days of his father Asa, he took out of the land.

2 Kings 23:7 And he[Josiah] brake down the houses of the sodomites, that were by the house of the LORD, where the women wove hangings for the grove.

Isaiah 3:9 The shew of their countenance doth witness against them; and they declare their sin as Sodom, they hide it not. Woe unto their soul! for they have rewarded evil unto themselves.

Daniel 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all. (some believe this says the Antichrist will be gay)

1 Timothy 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Gee I'm going to cry again.

Please tell me you are a woman..

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Devon is horrified

Before I say anything, I'm going to tell you, before I'm accused otherwise like people before me, that I am a Born-Again Christian, have read my whole Bible several times and attend church. My church is non-denominational and centred on the ministry of the Holy Spirit.

Whoa there Devon – this is where you have gone wrong, sadly wrong, but I believe you are not a bad person, it is just that you have been misled.

Let’s continue…

Politics don't come into our faith,

Now that can’t be right, can it? We know that God responds badly to a vote, as we see in Number 11:1 And when the people complained, it displeased the LORD: and the LORD heard it; and his anger was kindled; and the fire of the LORD burnt among them, and consumed them that were in the uttermost parts of the camp.

Yet he has us obey our rulers
Hebrews 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

Where are the Republicans, Democrats or any other political party in the Bible? Nowhere.

On the contrary, most Republicans are Christian, akin to Jesus’ disciples, Democrats are a mish-mash of atheists, new-age, pagans, agnostics, Goths, etc. with liberal ideas

Scriptures are taken out of context, the Old Testament is used to back up points that the teachings of Jesus say are no longer necessary

As you will have seen from other Pastors, Jesus changed only the dietary laws and the need for sacrifice to God.

Jesus died for ALL the sins of the WORLD. I'm not going to reference it, because

…because you cannot. He died for those who accept Him as their leader Luke:19:27

however, until a man's life is finished, that is not so,

No, this is also not so,
Lu:12:10: And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

Jesus does not demand I use in American grammar, spelling and punctuation rules, period. I'd love to see some scriptural proof for that one as America wasn't even discovered when the Bible was written . . .

What is your point here? The Israelites did not possess the area that they did before God told them to kill the inhabitants and take it over.

God doesn't discriminate languages

Well there is Babel where he made the languages so that man would be held back. But then we are not God – would Jesus ever have brought you here if the site were in Hungarian? Would your message have been lost had you posted in English? Yes, it would, so please make the effort.

Your opinions of women are so . . . stereotyped –

That is God’s description, if you have a problem take it up with Him.

then what of all the strong women like Esther and Ruth in the Bible who do such amazing things for God?

Ah yes, Esther, the woman who broke up the marriage of the King and Vashti. And was not the King Ahasuerus, who commanded,

Es:1:20: And when the king's decree which he shall make shall be published throughout all his empire, (for it is great,) all the wives shall give to their husbands honour, both to great and small.

More importantly, did you know that this is the only book of the Bible that does not make any reference to God?

Jesus did not consider women useless,

"If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother...he cannot be my disciple." (Luke 14:26). "Woman, what have I to do with thee?" (John 2:4).

Jesus DIED for you so that you may be FREE OF SIN.

We are aware of that! So you know that there is a post on a suggestion that Hitler sincerely repented and is now in heaven, whereas babies born dead can only go to hell, because they never accepted Jesus.

God does not punish people on earth anymore because Jesus took all of the punishment for everyone,

Well, Do you need to be punished on earth if the penalty for say, being a queer is eternal damnation in the flames of the Pit of Brimstone? Even Texas isn’t that severe.

Also. I big thing that's seriously worrying me. I haven't seen any mention of the Holy Spirit at all on this site.

Oh it’s there all right, we are just a little cautious just in case blasphemy creeps in.

There is no Spirit in your words, not the Jesus I know. My Jesus loves every one of us

Then you are not worshiping Jesus. You show me where he loves everyone? Does he love murderers, liars, whoremongers, homosexuals? No! He says so.

[Devon~]

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The country of Devon. That's cute. Are you the King?

* County

Would have edited that and the BBcode failure if there was an 'edit' function, sorry.

[Adilene]

Re: Horrified, appalled? I'm hoping this isn't a real church.

* County

Would have edited that and the BBcode failure if there was an 'edit' function, sorry.

There is an edit function. Now you are questioning the quality of our board? Is there anything else you care to complain about. Crybaby.

[Devon~]

Re: Horrified, appalled? I'm hoping this isn't a real church.

There is an edit function. Now you are questioning the quality of our board? Is there anything else you care to complain about. Crybaby.

Not that I can see. I'm a moderator on a VBulletin site, so I know how the site works. It should be next to the 'quote' but I'm guessing it's enabled on post-count-basis or something?

[Didymus Much]

Re: Horrified, appalled? I'm hoping this isn't a real church.

* County

Would have edited that and the BBcode failure if there was an 'edit' function, sorry.

Hi, Devon. 'Edit' is not available to newer members, to prevent abuse. I recommend using the 'Preview Post' function. There are instructional videos for many of the features, linked on the Noob FAQ pages.

[Adilene]

Re: Horrified, appalled? I'm hoping this isn't a real church.

Not that I can see. I'm a moderator on a VBulletin site, so I know how the site works. It should be next to the 'quote' but I'm guessing it's enabled on post-count-basis or something?

Are you still horrified? I can see your still here.