Muslim

[iSoK11]

Hello,

I am a muslim.
I don't really understand why I am going to hell according to you
people. Do you care to explain?

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Muslim

Hello, I am a muslim. I don't really understand why I am going to hell according to you people. Do you care to explain?

Sure. It's in the Bible:

• 2nd Chronicles 15:13 "That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman."
• Mark 16:16 "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."
• Revelation 21:8 "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."
• John 15:6 "If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned."

Any other questions?

[iSoK11]

Re: Muslim

is the bible the word of God?

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Muslim

is the bible the word of God?

Duh!

2nd Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness"

[iSoK11]

Re: Muslim

So if I just believe in Jesus Christ I will be saved?
What does the bible say about people who never got the message?
Like us poor muslims? Or the aboriginals in Australia?
We never got the message...Are they not going to be saved?


And btw, if the Bible is the word of God, then why does it get altered by man? Because so many verions exist nowadays. What is the original and true word of God?

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Muslim

Yes you have to believe in Christ, but that's not as simple as saying "I believe Christ died for my sins", you have to know it deep down. True belief carries out in action.

As for Muslims, or anybody else who never heard the Gospel, well tough luck, they're going straight to Hell. Maybe they're Amazon natives who never had contact with White Man, they're still going to Hell. Now you see why we are so urgently trying to spread the message?

The correct Bible is the AV1611 KJV Bible. Other versions are corruptions and perversions.

[iSoK11]

Re: Muslim

Yes you have to believe in Christ, but that's not as simple as saying "I believe Christ died for my sins", you have to know it deep down. True belief carries out in action.

As for Muslims, or anybody else who never heard the Gospel, well tough luck, they're going straight to Hell. Maybe they're Amazon natives who never had contact with White Man, they're still going to Hell. Now you see why we are so urgently trying to spread the message?

The correct Bible is the AV1611 KJV Bible. Other versions are corruptions and perversions.

So is the aboriginals to blame that God created them in Australia?
According to you, it would mean that the god you worship is unjust..
How can God be unjust?

How did you conclude that the AV1611 KJV Bible is the correct version?
Because there are so many and how do you know, that you are right?

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Muslim

So is the aboriginals to blame that God created them in Australia?
According to you, it would mean that the god you worship is unjust..
How can God be unjust?

How can God be unjust? If God is the one who makes the rules of justice, it is impossible for Him to be unjust. Everything He does is just. Just because you might have a problem with a bunch of unsaved abos being sent to Hell, doesn't make it unjust.

How did you conclude that the AV1611 KJV Bible is the correct version?
Because there are so many and how do you know, that you are right?

You can read about that here.

[iSoK11]

Re: Muslim

How can God be unjust? If God is the one who makes the rules of justice, it is impossible for Him to be unjust. Everything He does is just. Just because you might have a problem with a bunch of unsaved abos being sent to Hell, doesn't make it unjust.



You can read about that here.

So you think that God decided to create a human and put it on Australia.
And never tell that human being the way of Jesus Christ (your personal Saviour). And now he has got to go to hell.

How can that be justice. So the aboriginal was created for hell?

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Muslim

So you think that God decided to create a human and put it on Australia.

Yes, God created everything and everyone, no exceptions.

And never tell that human being the way of Jesus Christ (your personal Saviour). And now he has got to go to hell. How can that be justice. So the aboriginal was created for hell?

It's their choice. If they choose to remain savage aboriginals instead of becoming decent True Christians(tm) they will get what they deserve: Hell.

Mark 16:16 "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."

[Old Jarhead]

Re: Muslim

So the aboriginal was created for hell?

The Austrian outback is very hot, so indeed their bodies are well suited for a hotter climate.

[iSoK11]

Re: Muslim

The Austrian outback is very hot, so indeed their bodies are well suited for a hotter climate.

So you actually say that God created the aboriginals to go to hell because they already live in a hot climate?
What about the eskimo's? They live in a cold climate, hell isn't cold!!

Now, do you regard yourself better than a black man?


@Old cranky man, The aboriginals and the eskimo do not know the truth.
Will God still send them to Hell? They didn't know the truth, so they had no chance, that means that God is unjust according to you?

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Muslim

@Old cranky man, The aboriginals and the eskimo do not know the truth. Will God still send them to Hell? They didn't know the truth, so they had no chance, that means that God is unjust according to you?

Everyone knows the truth. Those who choose to ignore it will burn in Hell. So those aboriginals, eskimos, Belgians or whatever sinners like to call themselves nowadays get what they deserve: Hell. There is nothing unjust about that as it is their own choice to make.

John 15:6 "If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned."

[Old Jarhead]

Re: Muslim

Now, do you regard yourself better than a black man?

It depends on the man. Barry Obama and his a.c.o.r.n. cronies have got every black man, child and nappy headed hoe needing entitlements like a dope fiend needs heroin. If you can't do an honest days work, then you can't get my help. On the other hand you've got the aboriginals and other America hating tribal types who refuse to accept the truth of Christ. If you don't accept Christ as your lord and savior, then you can look elsewhere for compassion.

About three-fifths of the world population of blacks is beyond help. If the rest want to drop all the "yo yo voodoo hip hop" crap, put on a suit and tie and get a real job, then they are fine by me.

Proverbs 21:25 "The sluggard's craving will be the death of him, because his hands refuse to work"

[Gabriel Reproba]

Re: Muslim

So is the aboriginals to blame that God created them in Australia?

Why do you use the word "blame?" Why do you think that there has to be some sort of fault on someone's part for God to decide what to do to someone? If God decides to do something, it is, by definition, just. If God took you right now and had you burn in Hell for all time, it is, by definition, the right thing to do.

Have you ever heard of the Divine Command Theorum of morality, which is the simple solution to the Euthyphro "dilemma?"

Have you even read the Bible?