Hey guys

[Gibberish]

Hey guys, I'm a Christian, I'm originally from Chicago, Illinois, but currently reside in Iowa. The church I go to is called Stonebridge, our denomination is EFCA (Evangelical Free Church of America). Another church that I've visited and enjoyed was Willamette near Portland Oregon.
You guys might call me a "False Christian," but I know that it ultimately GOD's decision where I go, and I know if I keep on my current I am homeward bound (to Heaven).
I'm going to be honest and upfront that there are things that you guys believe that I do not agree with/or think is right, such as:
-Beating women (almost anything more than spanking and belts)
-Beating children (almost anything more than spanking and belts)
-Not allowing the disabled into church (all are welcome!)
-The names that you use for people (faggots and homers are derogatory)
-GOD hating anyone
-Killing anyone
-Christians being perfect
Well, that's about it
GOD Bless!

[James Hutchins]

Re: Introduction

Welvcome Gibby! So in a nut shell, you think it is perfectly fine to ignore parts of the Bible. To have God standing right in front you you talking and you just place your fingers in your ears when he says things you have determined are of no value. Tell me, how did you manage to be the Judge of Jesus?

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Introduction

Hey guys, I'm a Christian, I'm originally from Chicago, Illinois, but currently reside in Iowa. The church I go to is called Stonebridge, our denomination is EFCA (Evangelical Free Church of America). Another church that I've visited and enjoyed was Willamette near Portland Oregon.
You guys might call me a "False Christian," but I know that it ultimately GOD's decision where I go, and I know if I keep on my current I am homeward bound (to Heaven).
I'm going to be honest and upfront that there are things that you guys believe that I do not agree with/or think is right, such as:
-Beating women (almost anything more than spanking and belts)
-Beating children (almost anything more than spanking and belts)
-Not allowing the disabled into church (all are welcome!)
-The names that you use for people (faggots and homers are derogatory)
-GOD hating anyone
-Killing anyone
-Christians being perfect
Well, that's about it
GOD Bless!

Hello Gibberish!

I notice you didn't put a favorite Bible verse in, so I'll suggest some for you:

(Matthew 5:18) "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

or

(Deuteronomy 4:2) "Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you."

or

(Matthew 4:4) "But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God."

So tell me, friend: which Words of God are you comfortable with discarding?

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[Reverand Stubber]

Re: Introduction

Hey guys, I'm a Christian, I'm originally from Chicago, Illinois, but currently reside in Iowa. The church I go to is called Stonebridge, our denomination is EFCA (Evangelical Free Church of America). Another church that I've visited and enjoyed was Willamette near Portland Oregon.
You guys might call me a "False Christian," but I know that it ultimately GOD's decision where I go, and I know if I keep on my current I am homeward bound (to Heaven).
I'm going to be honest and upfront that there are things that you guys believe that I do not agree with/or think is right, such as:
-Beating women (almost anything more than spanking and belts)
-Beating children (almost anything more than spanking and belts)
-Not allowing the disabled into church (all are welcome!)
-The names that you use for people (faggots and homers are derogatory)
-GOD hating anyone
-Killing anyone
-Christians being perfect
Well, that's about it
GOD Bless!

Happy-clappy gibberish. When Jesus (Praise the Lord!) kicked the Money-lenders butts in the Temple He wasn't whining about belts & spanking. Grow some balls, fella & assert your authority as God intended.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Introduction

Hey guys, I'm a Christian, I'm originally from Chicago, Illinois, but currently reside in Iowa. The church I go to is called Stonebridge, our denomination is EFCA (Evangelical Free Church of America). Another church that I've visited and enjoyed was Willamette near Portland Oregon.
You guys might call me a "False Christian,"

Thank you, but we would have called you that with or without your permission.

but I know that it ultimately GOD's decision where I go, and I know if I keep on my current I am homeward bound (to Heaven)

How can it be His Decision and yet, you know?

I'm going to be honest and upfront that there are things that you guys believe that I do not agree with/or think is right, such as:
-Beating women (almost anything more than spanking and belts)
-Beating children (almost anything more than spanking and belts)

The level of discipline is entirely at the discretion of the husband - we are not monsters you know!

-Not allowing the disabled into church (all are welcome!)

Oh... so you know better than God?
Le:21:17: Speak unto Aaron, saying, Whosoever he be of thy seed in their generations that hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God.
Le:21:18: For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous,
Le:21:19: Or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded,
Le:21:20: Or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken;
Le:21:21: No man that hath a blemish of the seed of Aaron the priest shall come nigh to offer the offerings of the LORD made by fire: he hath a blemish; he shall not come nigh to offer the bread of his God.

-The names that you use for people (faggots and homers are derogatory)

How so? Are they not abominations unto The Lord?

-GOD hating anyone

God Hates
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8 ), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8 ), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8 ), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8 ), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8 ), All Liars (Revelation 21:8 )

-Killing anyone

Take it up with Yahweh, milksop!
Ezekiel 14:13 Son of man, when the land sinneth against me by trespassing grievously, then will I stretch out mine hand upon it, and will break the staff of the bread thereof, and will send famine upon it, and will cut off man and beast from it:

14:15 If I cause noisome beasts to pass through the land, and they spoil it, so that it be desolate, that no man may pass through because of the beasts:

14:17 Or if I bring a sword upon that land, and say, Sword, go through the land; so that I cut off man and beast from it:

14:19 Or if I send a pestilence into that land, and pour out my fury upon it in blood, to cut off from it man and beast:

14:21 For thus saith the Lord GOD; How much more when I send my four sore judgments upon Jerusalem, the sword, and the famine, and the noisome beast, and the pestilence, to cut off from it man and beast?

Ex:15:3: The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

1Sa:16:18: Then answered one of the servants, and said, Behold, I have seen a son of Jesse the Bethlehemite, that is cunning in playing, and a mighty valiant man, and a man of war, and prudent in matters, and a comely person, and the LORD is with him.

-Christians being perfect

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showp...&postcount=106

Do you now see why you are not really a Christian? You strike me as one of those idle people who find what they like in the Bible and believe only that. The purpose of True Christianity is to follow God's Word, NOT to pick and choose as you go along.

[Gibberish]

Re: Introduction

Wow, you guys sure do reply fast! Well, I will start out by saying that my purpose in coming here was to introduce myself in a friendly way, after all GOD does say "Love thy neighbor as thy self," another purpose was so that I could look at different ways people approach Christianity, and the Bible.
First I will respond to "Ezekiel Bathfire:

How can it be His Decision and yet, you know?

When I pray, I feel his presence, when I sin, I feel his wrath, when I worship I feel his love. Simply put, I know he's there, I know he loves me, and I know that because I accepted CHRIST into my life, as the bible says, I will be saved.

The level of discipline is entirely at the discretion of the husband - we are not monsters you know!

Okay, I respect that, I must not be reading the posts right. As long as there is no permanent damage or medium to large marks left.

Oh... so you know better than God?

I apologize if that's what you thought, that was not what it was meant to sound like; I am in no way better than GOD. I simply know that from the stories the bible has (the bible is GOD breathed) that GOD cleansed the leapers (a disability of sorts), healed the sick (another disability of sorts), healed a crippled man, let the blind see and the mute speak!

God Hates...

I truly believe in my sin ridden heart that GOD doesn't hate the sinner, he hates the sin that they commit.
Zechariah Smyth:
Oops! Didn't mean to do that:
Jeremiah 29:11-12
For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the LORD, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Then you will call on me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you.
In CHRIST
Gibber-Gabber

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: Introduction

I truly believe in my sin ridden heart that GOD doesn't hate the sinner, he hates the sin that they commit.

Chapter and verse please because my Bible says the opposite

Psalm 11:5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

Hosea 9:15 All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters.

Proverbs 6:16-19 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Romans 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

Proverbs 15:8-9,26 The sacrifice of the wicked is an abomination to the LORD: but the prayer of the upright is his delight.
The way of the wicked is an abomination unto the LORD: but he loveth him that followeth after righteousness.
The thoughts of the wicked are an abomination to the LORD: but the words of the pure are pleasant words.

Proverbs 16:5 Every one that is proud in heart is an abomination to the LORD: though hand join in hand, he shall not be unpunished.

Isaiah 1:13 Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.
Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.

Amos 5:21 I hate, I despise your feast days, and I will not smell in your solemn assemblies.

Deuteronomy 16:22 Neither shalt thou set thee up any image; which the LORD thy God hateth.

Revelation 2:6; 15 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, which I also hate.
So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes, which thing I hate.

Jeremiah 29:11-12
For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the LORD, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Then you will call on me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you.

To whom is God speaking in that verse? You think it's you?

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Introduction

when I sin, I feel his wrath,

[...]Notice that the verse says "he who is without sin", not "he who has never sinned". The Bible tells us that when we get saved, our sins are washed away with Jesus' blood (Rev 1:5) and that we cannot sin (I John 3:5-9), so born again Christians are without sin.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

My emphasis! Yet you say, "When I sin, I feel His wrath"

GOD cleansed the leapers (a disability of sorts), healed the sick (another disability of sorts), healed a crippled man, let the blind see and the mute speak!

Are you here to annoy? Are you some sort of atheist abomination, cherry picking verses so as to spring a trap!

Listen up son! Who do you think made those lepers, sinners, gimps, blind, and mute?

Exodus 4:11 And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man's mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?

I truly believe in my sin ridden heart that GOD doesn't hate the sinner, he hates the sin that they commit.

Sir, give me the address of your Pastor! He has some answering to do!

Read this fine sermon by our departed Pastor Al!

Pastor Al: I keep hearing people say that God hates sin but loves the sinner. It isn't true. God does not love the sinner and I can prove what I say from the Bible which is, of course, God's Word and the final say-so about anything!

"These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren." (Proverbs 6:16-19)

There are plenty more verses in the Bible about how God HATES THE SINNER.

Do not be deceived by the lukewarm Christians and their "God hates the sin but loves the sinner"!! The Bible says the Lord HATES certain people and not just the sin!! But He does love the True Christian!

I have had (supposed) born again Christians tell me that I'm talking about the Law of the Old Testament. Jesus Christ said that not one jot or tittle of His law will pass away!! (Matthew 5:18)

The Bible says, "The burden of the Word of the Lord to Israel by Malachi. I have loved you, saith the Lord. Yet ye say, wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the Lord: yet I loved Jacob. And I HATED Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage to waste for the dragons of the wilderness." (Malachi 1:1-3) You read it! GOD HATED ESAU. Its in the Bible!

If someone tells you "God is love", remind him that "love is the fulfilling of the law" (Romans 13:10)

Any enemy of God should be our enemy too!! I would go so far as to say that if you claim to love enemies of God, you are trying to be holier than God.

In Psalms, David constantly called upon God to destroy the wicked! I have found ten Psalms where David asks God to destroy his enemies (7, 35, 55, 58, 59, 69, 79, 109, 137, 139).

I believe when God destroys the wicked it is a form of His grace. God gives us grace when He destroys the wicked because when He destroys the wicked, He stops their evil deeds and works. When He kills drug dealers, He saves grown ups and children from drugs. When He kills abortionists, He saves unborn babies lives.

The Bible says that wicked, evil-doers don't learn lessons. "Let favour be showed to the wicked, yet will he not learn righteousness" (2 Cor 26:10); yet, "when thy [God's] judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness" (2 Cor 26:9).

People aren't saved because of God's love. People get saved because they want to escape God's wrath and don't want to be destroyed. We should, therefore, ask God to judge and destroy the wicked and evil-doers because their destructions is definitely a form of God's grace.

We need to stop separating sin from the sinner. God judges the sinner! If you believe that God is just and true, then you must believe that He hates the sin and the sinner.

"God is a just judge and God is angry with the wicked everyday. (Psalms 7:11)

I suggest you start looking for Jesus!

[James Hutchins]

Re: Introduction

Well! I certainly am miffed. To think I proffered my hand in the meaning of True Friendship(tm) only to have it rudely slapped away. I am not made of stone, I have feelings you know.

[Born Again Bob]

Re: Introduction

Dear Friend,

I am not made of stone, I have feelings you know.

Quite so. Say, isn't it about time for our annual Steel Magnolias and Fried Green Tomatoes double-header?

Yours in Him,
BAB

[Gibberish]

Re: Introduction

I'm sorry, I really didn't mean to offend anyone, I was just wanting to let you know up front.
I didn't come here to be told what I'm doing wrong, GOD is my only judge, and therefore the only being I will let judge me.
I simply came here to expand my horizons, and see other peoples way of thinking/system of beliefs.
The main reason of me creating this profile is so I can read more, and understand more, along with the other reasons I've stated.

[Born Again Bob]

Re: Introduction

I didn't come here to be told what I'm doing wrong, GOD is my only judge, and therefore the only being I will let judge me.

Shhhh.....

Quiet while I judge you...

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Introduction

I didn't come here to be told what I'm doing wrong, GOD is my only judge, and therefore the only being I will let judge me.

Dear friend:

Please see this.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Introduction

The main reason of me creating this profile is so I can read more, and understand more, along with the other reasons I've stated.

If you'd like to find out more about Landover Baptist Church, please read THIS thread created especially for new posters.

If you have a question, use the "search" function before posting it. Most likely it is being discussed somewhere on this Godly forum. Please don't waste God's precious bandwidth.

You will keep a respectful tongue in your head whenever addressing your betters, which includes all True Christians™. Failure to do so, or any attempt at inciting debate or mockery of God's Divine Plan, can and will result in the suspension of your posting privileges.

Your rights on this forum are listed HERE. If you feel that any of these rights have been violated, please don't hesitate to contact a Pastor at once.

[Gibberish]

Hey guys

I was told in a message by Pastor Ezekiel that I was to make my own thread, but I already did, respecting his authority I'm making this one as well.
I'm just reposting what I put in another thread earlier:

Hey guys, I'm a Christian, I'm originally from Chicago, Illinois, but currently reside in Iowa. The church I go to is called Stonebridge, our denomination is EFCA (Evangelical Free Church of America). Another church that I've visited and enjoyed was Willamette near Portland Oregon.

This will be the last thread that I create and any other posts that I make will only be on this thread.
I'm sorry if I have upset you, done anything to offend you, or have hindered your path with the LORD. I have respect for each and every one of you, though we may have our differences we are all True CHRISTians.
I would also like to apologize to Pastor Ezekiel; I feel as if I offended him, he's my elder, and the bible says to respect them.
Finally, I would like to tell you all that your site has actually changed me in some ways and made me consider the bible more in depth, along with GOD's view on the world; I am not perfect, but I strive and yearn to be like GOD. I hope you accept my apology, I am being sincere.
Gibberish