Hi from God's Country

[Brad M]

Hello, I am here to spread the word of god and to emphasize the importance of Mary's contributions throughout Christian history. I welcome all other religions that wish to convert to Catholicism and help crusade across the globe and save as many people as possible.

Obviously, we will be crusading from our computer desks, but help me bring the word of God, the way it is meant to be said, to other religions and other Christian denominations alike.

I especially call out to the Baptists here, to put down your moonshine, and come towards the truth. God loves you and wishes you to be saved.

I look forward to the exchange of ideas on this board.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Hi from God's Country

Mary's contribution was minimal. God could have arranged it to happen to any woman. She gets fewer mentions in The Bible than Judas and Satan. The only time Jesus has a conversation with her, He basically asks her why she isn't home doing the dishes.

The people know what the vicar of Rome stands for - buggery. A strange and perverse way to worship God...

[Brad M]

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Mary's contribution was minimal. God could have arranged it to happen to any woman. She gets fewer mentions in The Bible than Judas and Satan. The only time Jesus has a conversation with her, He basically asks her why she isn't home doing the dishes.

The people know what the vicar of Rome stands for - buggery. A strange and perverse way to worship God...

"Satan", is barely mentioned in the real Bible. Maybe in the heathen bible, Satan plays more of a lead role.

God chose Marry specifically. She was saved. She was he redeemed while Jesus is the redeemer. She brought Jesus close to humanity with her inspiration and love like any mother to her son. She played a lead role in the life of Jesus and the basis for all Christianity. Mind you, this is ancient history, this was not concocted in 15th century England.

Praise Blessed Virgin Mary

[Bible Student]

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"Satan", is barely mentioned in the real Bible. Maybe in the heathen bible, Satan plays more of a lead role.

[Paganistic Mary-worshiping dribble snipped]

What is "the heathen bible" in your unlearned opinion? What do you think of the Jerusalem Bible, the New Jerusalem Bible, the Jerusalem Reader, the New Jerusalem Reader and the Douay Rheims? What do you think of the 1611 King James Bible? How do all of those texts differ from your probably insalubrious "real Bible?"

[Brad M]

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What is "the heathen bible" in your unlearned opinion? What do you think of the Jerusalem Bible, the New Jerusalem Bible, the Jerusalem Reader, the New Jerusalem Reader and the Douay Rheims? What do you think of the 1611 King James Bible? How do all of those texts differ from your probably insalubrious "real Bible?"

The King James "bible for dummies" omitted various books and documents accepted by the Church (long before your denomination was formed) as scripture.

Vulgate by Saint Jerome (Latin)- > Duoay-Rheims (English)

The catholic bible typically contains:

Jerusalem Bible
Tobit
Judith
Wisdom
Sirach
Baruch
Maccabee
Apocrypha
The Deuterocanonical

Some of:

Esther
Daniel

[Brad M]

Re: Hi from God's Country

BTW, nobody here is "worshipping" Mary. Praising Mary and worshipping Mary are 2 different things. And funny you should mention Pagans. I am pretty sure the Catholic church was not practicing, or condoning paganism 1700 years before the Baptist Church materialized the same was Mormonism and and Scientology did

[Bible Student]

Re: Hi from God's Country

Originally Posted by Bible Student
What is "the heathen bible" in your unlearned opinion? What do you think of the Jerusalem Bible, the New Jerusalem Bible, the Jerusalem Reader, the New Jerusalem Reader and the Douay Rheims? What do you think of the 1611 King James Bible? How do all of those texts differ from your probably insalubrious "real Bible?"

The King James "bible for dummies" omitted various books and documents accepted by the Church (long before your denomination was formed) as scripture.

Which books do you think were omitted?

Vulgate by Saint Jerome (Latin)- > Duoay-Rheims (English)

What did this King James bible use? What version of the Vulgate did the Douay Rheims use? Did the Douay use any other material?

The catholic bible typically contains:

Jerusalem Bible

Wrong! Do you even know what the Jerusalem Bible is? Why did you ignore almost all of my questions and various sub-questions?

Tobit
Judith
Wisdom
Sirach
Baruch
Maccabee
Apocrypha
The Deuterocanonical

What is the difference between the Apocrypha and Deuterocanonical?

Some of:

Esther
Daniel

So what parts of Esther and Daniel did the Douay Rheims leave out?

And before you make an even bigger fool of yourself by posting things about which you know little and understand even less, look at my title besides my name. You really are out of your league here.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Dear Papist Dog;

This is a Christian forum. Papists are not Christians.

Also, this is NOT a debate forum. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .

[Bible Student]

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BTW, nobody here is "worshipping" Mary. Praising Mary and worshipping Mary are 2 different things. And funny you should mention Pagans. I am pretty sure the Catholic church was not practicing, or condoning paganism 1700 years before the Baptist Church materialized the same was Mormonism and and Scientology did

Let us take this slowly as you seem to be under some kind of impediment. First, define paganism?

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: Hi from God's Country

BTW, nobody here is "worshipping" Mary. Praising Mary and worshipping Mary are 2 different things. And funny you should mention Pagans. I am pretty sure the Catholic church was not practicing, or condoning paganism 1700 years before the Baptist Church materialized the same was Mormonism and and Scientology did

Why do you think that Jesus turned His back on Mary? What do you know that He didn't?

Mark 3:31 There came then his brethren and his mother, and, standing without, sent unto him, calling him. 32And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee.
33And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren?
34And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!


YIC

Jack

[Brad M]

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Let us take this slowly as you seem to be under some kind of impediment. First, define paganism?

Not Catholicism

[Brad M]

Re: Hi from God's Country

Wrong! Do you even know what the Jerusalem Bible is? Why did you ignore almost all of my questions and various sub-questions?

Bible Student, your "sub-questions" pertained to the same thing. I answered.

What is the difference between the Apocrypha and Deuterocanonical?

The names for starters

So what parts of Esther and Daniel did the Douay Rheims leave out?

Various Chapters

And before you make an even bigger fool of yourself by posting things about which you know little and understand even less, look at my title besides my name. You really are out of your league here.

Perhaps, I am sure your extensive knowledge on the King James Bible dwarfs my knowledge on it.

[Brother Enoch]

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What is the difference between the Apocrypha and Deuterocanonical?

The names for starters

And enders. Did you suffer a brain trauma as a child that left you profoundly retarded?

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Hi from God's Country

Not Catholicism

So a helicopter would be an example of paganism?

[Brad M]

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And enders. Did you suffer a brain trauma as a child that left you profoundly retarded?

1) The Catholic Deuterocanonical Books

* Tobit
* Judith
{* Additions to Esther (Vulgate Esther 10:4-16:24)} which are the Greek parts of Esther in the Septuagint.
* Wisdom
* Sirach, also called Ben Sira or Ecclesiasticus
* Baruch, including the Letter of Jeremiah (as Baruch Chapter 6)
{* Additions to Daniel:
o Prayer of Azariah and Song of the Three Holy Children (Vulgate Daniel 3:24-90)
o Susanna (Vulgate Daniel 13, Septuagint prologue)
o Bel and the Dragon (Vulgate Daniel 14, Septuagint epilogue) (Greek parts of Daniel)}
* 1 Maccabees
* 2 Maccabees

2) The Eastern Orthodox Deuterocanonical Books

* the same as the Catholic ones PLUS
* 1 Esdras
* Prayer of Manasseh (usually at the end of 2 Paralipomenon/Chronicals in Orthodox Bibles) [which is also to be found in Martin Luther's Apocrypha!]
* Psalm 151 (after the 150th Pslam)
* 3 Maccabees
* 4 Maccabees (in the Greek Orthodox Bibles in the Appendix.)

3) The Apocrypha of the Septuagint

* The Psalms of Solomon
* The Odes of Solomon
(Which were both rejected as pseudoepigrapha in the Councile of Rome in 382 A.D.
And is therefore of course not to be found in ANY modern day Christian Bible.)