God is Love

[Misswhit93]

So I've been looking around at a few of the different forum posts in which so many people have been banned and condemned to Hell for all eternity. As a loving Christian, I cannot help but feel bad for those who are stuck in such a place. And as a teacher, I cannot help but want to reach out and help these people. Does anyone else feel the same?

I feel very alone right now on this site...my boyfriend just told me not to worry about it...but I cannot help it. Help me!

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

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You bring up an interesting point. You're telling me God is love. But what is love as defined by the New Testament?

Is it some silly modern notion of "never having to say you're sorry," or something like that?

Not at all, young lady. Paul tells us the following about love.

1 Corinthians 13:4-8 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

Love is obedience to God. Jesus tells us the two most important things are.

Matthew 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

Does that mean doodle love notes to Jesus? Of course not! That means to obey God.

[Jedediah]

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As a loving Christian, I cannot help but feel bad for those who are stuck in such a place. And as a teacher, I cannot help but want to reach out and help these people. Does anyone else feel the same?

Yes, I too sometimes feel bad for all the people who will be condemned to an eternity of unfathomable torments. Fortunately, we won't be bothered by such trivialities when we join Jesus in Heaven, rejoicing.

Revelation 21:4
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

If you really want to help the sinners of the world, you must take up your own cross and do the work of an evangelist. If Jesus has chosen them to stand among His elect, they will listen.

II Timothy 4:1-5
I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

It is precisely because of our Christian love that we scourge and chasten unsaved trash. We tell it like it is, and that's exactly what they need to hear.

Hebrews 12:5-8
And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

[Misswhit93]

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I still cannot understand who in their right mind could ban someone or ever be discriminative to anyone...this site is so weird.

[Jedediah]

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I still cannot understand who in their right mind could ban someone or ever be discriminative to anyone...this site is so weird.

That is because you lack Christian discernment. It seems that the LORD has brought you here just in time.

God commands us to separate the unholy from the holy, the unclean from the clean (Leviticus 10:10). The Holy Bible (KJV 1611) does not teach "tolerance" or "diversity." Jesus commands us to live isolated from sinners.

Matthew 10:14-15
And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

Romans 12:2
And: but be ye transformed by the renewing of yo be not conformed to this worldur mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

I Corinthians 5:11
But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

II Corinthians 6:14-17
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

Ephesians 5:11
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

Tell us, young woman, what is "weird" about obeying the Word of God?

[Misswhit93]

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I never said that anything of God was weird...this site is weird. It is so discriminatory...and I thought that this was a Christian site...

[s. warnin]

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I never said that anything of God was weird...this site is weird. It is so discriminatory...and I thought that this was a Christian site...

Why exactly are you confused? What are your expectations of a Christian site? Just curious...

[Jack O'fagan]

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I never said that anything of God was weird...this site is weird. It is so discriminatory...and I thought that this was a Christian site...

Hello friend, if you can find any actions or views that do not follow the word or God or the teachings our saviour Jesus Christ please let us know,

YiC

Jack

[Misswhit93]

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By a Christian site, I mean a group of believers that are actually OPEN to other beliefs, but still try to get people to be led to Christ...not a group of people who believe things who I don't find make sense and are inhumane and insulting to the people who call themselves Christians. I mean, who are we to judge others?

[Jack O'fagan]

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By a Christian site, I mean a group of believers that are actually OPEN to other beliefs, but still try to get people to be led to Christ...not a group of people who believe things who I don't find make sense and are inhumane and insulting to the people who call themselves Christians. I mean, who are we to others?

Have you actually ever read the WHOLE Bible? I don't just mean the bits that your pastor reads out. You seem to have a very blinkered view of Christianity.

YiC

Jack

[Jedediah]

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By a Christian site, I mean a group of believers that are actually OPEN to other beliefs, but still try to get people to be led to Christ...not a group of people who believe things who I don't find make sense and are inhumane and insulting to the people who call themselves Christians. I mean, who are we to judge others?

So are you saying that you reject the verses of Scripture that have been provided for your edification? How do you decide which verses you will obey and which ones you will reject?

As for your question about "who are we to judge others?", this topic has been covered exhaustively. Rather than rehash the arguments, I will simply point you to Rev. Osborne's sermon The Most MISUNDERSTOOD Passage in All the Bible (Matthew 7:1-5). It's a good starting point.

[Misswhit93]

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YES, I have read the Bible. It bothers me that people on here are so discriminatory when they have no right to be. Especially when they say that "All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God."...I'm just saying.

[Redeemed Papist]

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YES, I have read the Bible. It bothers me that people on here are so discriminatory when they have no right to be. Especially when they say that "All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God."...I'm just saying.

We can see that you are just saying. Why not try just thinking or just reading.

All the answers to all your questions are in this thread and your questions, while original to you, seem to trouble the mind of the unsaved a lot. Perhaps the same demon or family of demons infests their brain. There is still a lot we don't understand about demons but it seems universally agreed they are a bad thing and should be driven out wherever possible. You seem to have a particularly annoying type of demon that makes you unable to process information and dooms you to repeatedly ask the same question over and over again without making any effort whatsoever to understand the answers.

You ask about tolerance, and because I am an indulgent fellow I will guide you to the right scripture:

2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

1 Corinthians 5:9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:

2 Thessalonians 3:6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.

Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

Your strange philosophy you have dreamed up or been wrongly instructed in by false Pastors has taught you to turn your back on God's very word!

[Didymus Much]

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YES, I have read the Bible...

Which one? (And yes, it does matter. Many things have been changed/added/dropped from various versions)

...It bothers me that people on here are so discriminatory when they have no right to be...

Then how does this little tidbit affect you?

2 Chronicles 15:13 "That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman."

Sounds like Divine Sanction™ for a whole lot more than just "being discriminatory".

[Jedediah]

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YES, I have read the Bible. It bothers me that people on here are so discriminatory when they have no right to be. Especially when they say that "All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God."...I'm just saying.

I am very familiar with Romans 3:23. The Bible tells us that we are born into sin (Psalm 51:5), which is why everyone who dies without accepting Christ as their personal LORD and Savior spends eternity in the lake of fire, enduring unfathomable torments. Even babies.

But because we have sinned does not mean that we necessarily continue to sin. That's what it means to be a True Christian™. Would you believe it if I told you that I used to wallow in the depths of homosexual perversion? I was a notorious "power bottom" on the I-35 truck stop circuit before Jesus came into my life and filled me with His love on October 16, 1998. From that day forth, I was a new man, reborn of seed incorruptible (I Peter 1:23) and I have not sinned ever since.

If you actually read past John 3:16, the Bible has a lot more to say than you give It credit for. It's not just my imagination that I am sin-free. The Word confirms it:

I John 1:7
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his son cleanseth us from all sin.

II Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

In fact, as a blood-bought son of the King, I am incapable of sinning. Praise!

Romans 8:33
Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth

Philippians 2:13
For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

I John 3:6-9
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Young lady, we want you to join us in Heaven. But it simply will not due for you to follow your own conscience in these matters of faith and doctrine. God left us very clear instruction on how to live our lives, in the form of the King James Authorized Version ©1611.

I exhort you to take your faith more seriously. My family and I will pray for you.