[Onfire4theLord]

Re: Mars

So what's in that space now?

I see now that you're a bit slow and will take that into consideration from here on.

Brothers don't be too harsh on the heathen he is obviously retarded and as such will likely burn in hell no matter how hard we try to lead him to our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ.

The Devil seems to have an easier job with the really dumb ones. I assume this one is no exception.

[Adam Fag]

Re: Mars

5 And he put down the idolatrous priests, whom the kings of Judah had ordained to burn incense in the high places in the cities of Judah, and in the places round about Jerusalem; them also that burned incense unto Baal, to the sun, and to the moon, and to the planets, and to jall the host of heaven.

We've already explained what a planet is to you.

You can't even read your own thread?

So you googled the word planet in the Bible as a gotcha!

Thanks. I put that quote there to jog your mind in case you had not seen Jack's post (but you had). I hope you don't think I want to say you're wrong. I don't. What's clear to me though is that there's more than just one thing to think.

All the stars give birth. Not some stars. They're formed from gas and dust. The gas forms the stars (and their gas giants) the dust forms dirt and rock and worlds like the Earth or Mars and so on. That's one type of "birth" but we aren't made of gas and rock. We're made from dirt. That's "birth Mk2" the birth of life and that birth takes place on worlds like our Earth.

Romans 8:22 For this to take place there MUST BE WORLDS LIKE OURS all through space. The space God made as you say. I'm not here to say you're wrong.

EARTH WIEWED FROM A GAS GIANT

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Mars

Romans 8:22 For this to take place there MUST BE WORLDS LIKE OURS all through space. The space God made as you say. I'm not here to say you're wrong.

Why?

Why MUST?

What space?

The whole Creation is described in Genesis. Are you seriously suggesting that God made a Universe with a hundred billion billion stars in it each one with worlds just to have a place to put the Earth and us and lied to us about it?

Please don't tell me you're one of those woo woos who believes in space aliens without a shred of evidence!

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Mars

John 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold

it means he has sheep that are not of this fold (but does not name which folds there are, as well as the Earth)

"This fold" = the Jews. Jesus came and spoke to the Jews.

Outside "this fold" = Gentiles. The apostles carried Christianity to the Gentiles, who were outside "the fold".

"Fool desperately trying to force facts to fit his bizarre beliefs" = Adam Ski.

[Onfire4theLord]

Re: Mars

Adam Ski the biggest favor you could do for yourself at this point would be to admit you're a sinner and receive the Lord Jesus Christ into your heart.

I realize that you think you can win this conversation. ( which I am sure you see as an argument) The only problem is, your logic is flawed there is no winning only the WORD OF GOD....we have the WORD OF GOD on our side. So while you pass snide comments and try your best to rile feathers we are all looking at a lost soul shaking our heads, knowing that you are going to burn in the eternal flames of hell.

Read the book son, REPENT, for God is not some sissy fairytale that is going to have mercy on your liberal views.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Mars

John 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold

it means he has sheep that are not of this fold (but does not name which folds there are, as well as the Earth)

Wait: you think "fold" in this case means someone not of this earth?



You better read all of John 10, friend, especially from John 10:23 onward.

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: Mars

it means he has sheep that are not of this fold (but does not name which folds there are, as well as the Earth)

Brother Zech's, I'm surprised that he doesn't think it's instructions on how to make a paper aeroplane.

YIC

Jack

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Mars

Brother Zech's, I'm surprised that he doesn't think it's instructions on how to make a paper aeroplane.

YIC

Jack

Maybe he thinks Jesus was referring to the origami congregation.

[Adam Fag]

Re: Mars

"This fold" = the Jews. Jesus came and spoke to the Jews.

Outside "this fold" = Gentiles. The apostles carried Christianity to the Gentiles, who were outside "the fold".

"Fool desperately trying to force facts to fit his bizarre beliefs" = Adam Ski.

No. The chance for the Jews was over. PAST TENSE.

John 10:24-27 "the Jews" stuff is PAST TENSE "I told you" John 10:25
but some of it is NOW "ye are not of my sheep" John 10:26

Here the Jews have missed the boat and we've moved on.

So we can see that John 10:16 means the worlds (folds) of the stars.

They give birth. All of them give birth. Not some of them. And as we just saw these are all "folds" - but how can folds give birth?

That's one thing I've come here to find out. What do you think?

[Adam Fag]

Re: Mars

Wait: you think "fold" in this case means someone not of this earth?

Yes.

You better read all of John 10, friend, especially from John 10:23 onward.

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

I had.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Mars

Yes.

I had.

You are trying to get the Bible to conform to some crazy plan you have in your head, but that's not the way it works.

(2 Timothy 2:16) "But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness."

I have never said this to anyone, but i feel your zany ideas might be more welcome at a Mormon website, or maybe the Scientologists will have you. Good luck.

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Mars

We are dealing with a luminary of the "I found a word - therefore aliens! Woooo woooo!" school, folks. It's all blind faith and scrabbling round for hidden meanings in selected bits of evidence that fit your views from here on in.

[Adam Fag]

Re: Mars

You are trying to get the Bible to conform to some crazy plan you have in your head, but that's not the way it works.

I have never said this to anyone, but i feel your zany ideas might be more welcome at a Mormon website, or maybe the Scientologists will have you. Good luck.

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

No, no. No plan. What I think is based on what I can see and what I read and I won't read those mad things you said

If in days gone by there were men who knew none of the things we've learned now but saw "a thing in the sky" they could write down what they saw. I think they did. If they were mad they'd write it in a mad way and yes most of them did that BUT we still have their words. Now we know what they meant but then they just wrote what they saw.

To us now it means a lot and, though to them then it must have seemed mad or bad, it's good to know. They told the truth, as they saw it, and their words have not been changed.

I've read here that "God's" word does not change. Do you think that Zech?

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Mars

No, no. No plan. What I think is based on what I can see and what I read and I won't read those mad things you said

If in days gone by there were men who knew none of the things we've learned now but saw "a thing in the sky" they could write down what they saw. I think they did. If they were mad they'd write it in a mad way and yes most of them did that BUT we still have their words. Now we know what they meant but then they just wrote what they saw.

To us now it means a lot and, though to them then it must have seemed mad or bad, it's good to know. They told the truth, as they saw it, and their words have not been changed.

I've read here that "God's" word does not change. Do you think that Zech?

Ahh, I think I see the source of your problem: you think MEN wrote the Bible with no input from God. You actually believe that a bunch of farmers and shepherds and fishermen wrote all of the amazing things we find in the KJV Bible, all by their lonesome!



Check this out:

(2 Timothy 3:16) "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness."

Let me give you an everyday example that hopefully will allow you to wrap your brain around this. Let's say you go to a courthouse to watch a murder trial. There is a person right up front tapping away on a little machine called a stenotype. She is recording what is called the official transcript of the trial, and so it has to be very, very accurate.

Now, you can order this transcript if you desire (note: there will be a fee), and hold it in your hands and refer to it if you'd like. Now: did she write that transcript, or did she simply record it?

You know the answer: stop running away from the truth.



Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[Adam Fag]

Re: Mars

Ahh, I think I see the source of your problem: you think MEN wrote the Bible with no input from God. You actually believe that a bunch of farmers and shepherds and fishermen wrote all of the amazing things we find in the KJV Bible, all by their lonesome!



Check this out:

(2 Timothy 3:16) "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness."

Let me give you an everyday example that hopefully will allow you to wrap your brain around this. Let's say you go to a courthouse to watch a murder trial. There is a person right up front tapping away on a little machine called a stenotype. She is recording what is called the official transcript of the trial, and so it has to be very, very accurate.

Now, you can order this transcript if you desire (note: there will be a fee), and hold it in your hands and refer to it if you'd like. Now: did she write that transcript, or did she simply record it?

You know the answer: stop running away from the truth.



Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

Yes. I see. I know you think there is a God so that would make sense for you.

ZOOM

I don't know who drew that or if the man who saw it was mad (if he'd seen what's in THAT [pic] he would have been mad) BUT he wrote down what he saw.

How could we know what he'd seen, til now? Ezekiel 1:4-25 Now we make those things too and that's how we know what he meant.