[mc55boy]

Re: Hi guys, im an atheist. But am keen to learn more about your religion

mate... Ive already said that i haven't. i posted here to learn, i don't see whats so hard to understand. I'm asking simple questions and your making it impossible to have an actual conversation about the values of your religion.

i can basically already predict that your going to come back and call me a sinner, misguided and generally be counter productive in spreading the message of your Lord... so yeah. Can we have a good conversation like the first few posts rather than you behaving like some jumped up little child who can't argue properly so has to shout louder as you think that is how you win an argument.

[Professor Bessemer]

Re: Hi guys, im an atheist. But am keen to learn more about your religion

im talking about this guy:



he seems to be pretty much a very hateful guy and i dont get how he can hate people who believe in something different to him if he is following what is basically a religion which teaches peace and understanding rather than judgement and prejudice.

Didnt Jesus talk to and accept the lepers as people in the bible, even though everyone else saw them as an infection and non-human. So i cant understand how Nobar King can have so much hate for others if he is following Christianity and calls himself a true christian.

Friend, Jesus did many wonderful things, glorious and holy things. But let me explain it in a way that even a misguided youth can understand.

There are 66 books in the KJV 1611 Bible. There are 27 books in the New Testament, what you would call the "Jesus part" of the Bible. If the Bible were a play, that would mean that Jesus did not show up until late in the second act. And I'm sure you realize that Jesus did not spend all of His time saying "love thy neighbor" all day every day.

So please, until you are familiar with the Book, do not take a single quote out of context and act like you are some sort of Bible savant. Because you are obviously woefully ignorant about the Word of God.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Hi guys, im an atheist. But am keen to learn more about your religion

Ok that's fair enough, I did make the bible sound a bit basic sorry. But I say that I still stand by my belief that the bible is a guide of how to live your mortal life. Whether you be Christian or (like myself) an atheist I don't think matters, it is a good book whether you see it as a way into heaven or a refuge in dark time doesn't matter I believe. It is the good word and its message that is important. It teaches the reader how to be a good person and respect and love everything around you

Really?

What Bible have you been reading?

When God commanded Moses to exterminate the Midianites for turning from God to false gods, was that showing "love and respect"?

Even before that, when God told Noah to take 100 years to build a big boat to save his own family, but didn't spend any of that time warning all the other people, and animals, and unborn babies, that He was going to drown them all, was that showing "love and respect"?

When the Bible gives explicit instruction in how properly to beat your slaves, is that teaching you how to be a "good person"?

Why not just admit you've never read the Bible, and agree that it makes no sense whatsoever for you to come here telling us what it says?

But surely if your following the teachings of the bible, therefor god. You would follow what is written in it, like love thy neighbour so I don't see why your having a go at me when all I'm trying to do is understand. Anyway if god did make all of us in his image then he must have created me to think and believe what I do, and therefore create me in such a way for me to doubt his existence. This must then also apply to people of other religions, if god is the creator, then he must have created them to believe in another god.

No, He gave you free will. You can choose to obey His commands (which is the definition of a "good person") or you can choose to disobey.

You have chosen to disobey. That makes you, by definition, a "bad person" who will spend eternity being burned alive in God's Lake of Fire.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Hi guys, im an atheist. But am keen to learn more about your religion

mate... Ive already said that i haven't. i posted here to learn, i don't see whats so hard to understand. I'm asking simple questions and your making it impossible to have an actual conversation about the values of your religion.

i can basically already predict that your going to come back and call me a sinner, misguided and generally be counter productive in spreading the message of your Lord... so yeah. Can we have a good conversation like the first few posts rather than you behaving like some jumped up little child who can't argue properly so has to shout louder as you think that is how you win an argument.

Go

And

Read

The

Bible

[mc55boy]

Re: Hi guys, im an atheist. But am keen to learn more about your religion

see this is what i want, a good convo.

ok i see what you guys mean about the bible not being one big happy teaching.

But you must also see this from my point of view, i see a lot of Christians throughout history who were pure evil; Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini for example. Im not saying Christians are evil, far from it, im saying that as an atheist it surely depends on what sort of person you were rather than your belief.

I mean there are plenty of good people who are non-christians. A friend of mine who is as well an atheist works as a volunteer with disabled children and hes only 18. So by your logic he would be punished for not believing in god, even though he himself is a good person?

[Bob4God]

Re: Hi guys, im an atheist. But am keen to learn more about your religion

see this is what i want, a good convo.

ok i see what you guys mean about the bible not being one big happy teaching.

But you must also see this from my point of view, i see a lot of Christians throughout history who were pure evil; Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini for example. Im not saying Christians are evil, far from it, im saying that as an atheist it surely depends on what sort of person you were rather than your belief.

I mean there are plenty of good people who are non-christians. A friend of mine who is as well an atheist works as a volunteer with disabled children and hes only 18. So by your logic he would be punished for not believing in god, even though he himself is a good person?

You know what?

If you think I'm evil because I cheer the LORD on every time I read about Him slaughtering children in the Bible, such as in the book of Exodus, then you can call me "evil" all you like.

At least I am not the one who is going to be roasting in HELL for eternity.

[mc55boy]

Re: Hi guys, im an atheist. But am keen to learn more about your religion

Go

And

Read

The

Bible

Go

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read

something

apart

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bible

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Hi guys, im an atheist. But am keen to learn more about your religion

see this is what i want, a good convo.

ok i see what you guys mean about the bible not being one big happy teaching.

But you must also see this from my point of view, i see a lot of Christians throughout history who were pure evil; Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini for example. Im not saying Christians are evil, far from it, im saying that as an atheist it surely depends on what sort of person you were rather than your belief.

Hitler was raised Catholic and then made up his own pseudo-Christian occult nonsense, Stalin was an atheist, and Mussolini was an atheist.

Please try to get your facts straight, OK?

I mean there are plenty of good people who are non-christians. A friend of mine who is as well an atheist works as a volunteer with disabled children and hes only 18. So by your logic he would be punished for not believing in god, even though he himself is a good person?

Being nice does not make him a good person. It only makes him "good" by your secular humanist definition. Obedience to God is the only thing that makes one "good" by God's definition.

And God is the one who makes the definitions that matter.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Hi guys, im an atheist. But am keen to learn more about your religion

I mean there are plenty of good people who are non-christians. A friend of mine who is as well an atheist works as a volunteer with disabled children and hes only 18. So by your logic he would be punished for not believing in god, even though he himself is a good person?

Not OUR logic.

Read the Bible.

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

[handmaiden]

Re: Hi guys, im an atheist. But am keen to learn more about your religion

Ok that's fair enough, I did make the bible sound a bit basic sorry. But I say that I still stand by my belief that the bible is a guide of how to live your mortal life. Whether you be Christian or (like myself) an atheist I don't think matters, it is a good book whether you see it as a way into heaven or a refuge in dark time doesn't matter I believe. It is the good word and its message that is important. It teaches the reader how to be a good person and respect and love everything around you

The Bible's message is that all should acknowledge and obey the authority of Almighty God as revealed in the Bible.

It does not teach that one should be a "good person". It teaches that one should accept God's dispensation for dealing with sinful people (meaning everybody who ever existed except for Jesus). That dispensation is to be cloaked in the perfect blood sacrifice that Jesus made on the cross.

It does not teach us to respect anyone or anything unless God tells us to do so. We certainly are not told to love all the false idols and evil practices around us. We are told to hate these things and we are told how to recognize these things for what they are.

see this is what i want, a good convo.

ok i see what you guys mean about the bible not being one big happy teaching.

But you must also see this from my point of view, i see a lot of Christians throughout history who were pure evil; Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini for example. Im not saying Christians are evil, far from it, im saying that as an atheist it surely depends on what sort of person you were rather than your belief.

I mean there are plenty of good people who are non-christians. A friend of mine who is as well an atheist works as a volunteer with disabled children and hes only 18. So by your logic he would be punished for not believing in god, even though he himself is a good person?

Hitler and Mussolini were Catholics, which by definition are not true, bible compliant Christians. Stalin was an atheist.

We are not making any claim to logic here. We are claiming to have an accurate, objective understanding of what the Bible really has to say.


Logic doesn't enter into it.



Sensibilly Yours,

Handmaiden

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Hi guys, im an atheist. But am keen to learn more about your religion

You guys probably will slate me for posting here, but even though I am an atheist I still find Christianity a fascinating religion and would like to learn more about it and your beliefs. Please don't destroy me as I merely wish to learn thank you for understanding

First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus and the Holy Word of God. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .

[Tawesy]

Re: Hi guys, im an atheist. But am keen to learn more about your religion

I wish I could go to Heaven. It's too bad I am a furry.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Hi guys, im an atheist. But am keen to learn more about your religion

Go

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read

something

apart

from

the

bible

To what end, friend?

What does another book have that the Bible doesn't?

The Bible has history, science, poetry, love, adventure, and Salvation! You can't beat that at Barnes and Noble!