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  • gareth the fool
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    Re: Hello, I am Tempered.

    Originally posted by Rev. M. Rodimer View Post
    Why does it need to mean anything "to you" other than what the plain language says, which is a warning against hypocritical judgment?


    You have already refused Jesus, declaring yourself a Deist/agnostic.

    Therefore, unless you want to learn of Jesus, you are against Him. We are commanded to separate ourselves from nonbelievers by God, so why would we welcome you into our Internet home?
    Simply having the faith and recognising yourself as Christian is separation, you've denoted yourself as different unto others. What the bible actually says is to engage in evangelism, the active spreading of your faith and it's beliefs. No matter how hardened, unfaithful or unbelieving they are. None are above redemption. Or do you believe God created some people to go to hell? That it's part of his plan for those people to suffer eternal damnation? Do you plan to neglect everyone? If so I suggest you change your Church's bannerhead from "Unsaved Welcome!" to "Unsaved rebuked and antagonized!" you'll get far more worthwhile results and less people approaching your church with the hope of reasonable conversation.


    Originally posted by Christianzionist View Post
    How is diesm different from satanism? Sounds like two peas in a pod.
    Satanism is the worship of Satan, requiring ritual as depicted, denoted and described in the book of Satan. Deism is the worship of a god that does not conform with religion, it means no rituals or tithe's because my belief doesn't have a God that requires it. I do believe my God, whatever shape or form, is omnipotent and all-powerful, but not that he'd give us the gift of free will and then penalise us for using it.



    Instead of conversing I think I'll read threads for a time. See what really goes on here.

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  • Christianzionist
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    Re: Hello, I am Tempered.

    How is diesm different from satanism? Sounds like two peas in a pod.

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  • Rev. M. Rodimer
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    Re: Hello, I am Tempered.

    Originally posted by Tempered View Post
    It's less about Christianity in itself and more so about your branch of it's faith. That is not to say you do not represent your faith on a global scale, more to say that your part of it is diverse. For example, in Matthew 7:1 the frequently used quote of "Judge not lest ye be judged" is used in an attempt to shame Christians on their judgements of other peoples lifestyle. However taking into account the further, and more illuminating parts Matthew 7:2 - 5 it explains the context, that the way you judge as of as much import as why, and that who you are bears no relevance. To myself it means that no matter who you are, your actions and words are judged wholly on their merit and content, and their context.
    Why does it need to mean anything "to you" other than what the plain language says, which is a warning against hypocritical judgment?

    For example, a few of you here have sought to judge me without knowing me, actively shunning me and attempting to push me away. How can you justify this when faith is free to all? When your faith should be actively spread? Jesus did not want seclusion of his faith, or he would not have shared it at all.
    You have already refused Jesus, declaring yourself a Deist/agnostic.

    Therefore, unless you want to learn of Jesus, you are against Him. We are commanded to separate ourselves from nonbelievers by God, so why would we welcome you into our Internet home?

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  • Pastor Ezekiel
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    Re: Hello, I am Tempered.

    Originally posted by Tempered View Post
    Jesus did not want seclusion of his faith, or he would not have shared it at all.
    So then how do people get Saved(c) if they are not allowed to attend Church, you might ask.

    It never ceases to amaze us the number of so-called "Christians" ask us this question. If they would only blow the dust off of their Bibles and put their noses into the 16th Chapter of Mark, they would find that Jesus commands us to evangelize the world! He didn't say, "find a comfortable pew each Sunday morning and cross your fingers in hopes that some unsaved piece of human refuse will walk through the doors of your church." No, he said, ""Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel." That word, "go" there is a verb. And for those of you illiterate, misguided Christians who allow unsaved people through the doors of your church each Sunday morning, a verb is an "action word," and "go" means "GO!" as in "leave," or "SCRAM!" It doesn't mean, sit on your hiney! The only place for evangelism is outside the confines of the Lord's four-walled holy dwelling place. God's home is a place for True Christians™ to fellowship. Allowing an unsaved person into church is like Rush Limbaugh inviting Hillary Clinton to a meeting of Republicans on how to defeat the Democrats in 2012. It's something you JUST DON'T DO! PERIOD!

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  • gareth the fool
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    Re: Hello, I am Tempered.

    It's less about Christianity in itself and more so about your branch of it's faith. That is not to say you do not represent your faith on a global scale, more to say that your part of it is diverse. For example, in Matthew 7:1 the frequently used quote of "Judge not lest ye be judged" is used in an attempt to shame Christians on their judgements of other peoples lifestyle. However taking into account the further, and more illuminating parts Matthew 7:2 - 5 it explains the context, that the way you judge as of as much import as why, and that who you are bears no relevance. To myself it means that no matter who you are, your actions and words are judged wholly on their merit and content, and their context. For example, a few of you here have sought to judge me without knowing me, actively shunning me and attempting to push me away. How can you justify this when faith is free to all? When your faith should be actively spread? Jesus did not want seclusion of his faith, or he would not have shared it at all.

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  • Rev. Edward Clement
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    Re: Hello, I am Tempered.

    Originally posted by Tempered View Post
    Hello there!

    I have chosen the name Tempered to represent myself here. I am a Deist. My belief is in a creator, not tied to a specific religion. Personally, I consider myself a good person.
    That is impossible; without Jesus you cannot be good because you cannot be in the Spirit, and thus, produce the Fruit of the Spirit®.

    Galatians
    5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
    5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
    5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

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  • Rev. M. Rodimer
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    Re: Hello, I am Tempered.

    Originally posted by Tempered View Post
    I have read the King James version, yes. That was dispensed at my secondary school to us and was part of our religious studies.
    Then what would you like to know about Christianity?

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  • gareth the fool
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    Re: Hello, I am Tempered.

    Originally posted by Rev. M. Rodimer View Post
    Have you read the Bible yet?
    I have read the King James version, yes. That was dispensed at my secondary school to us and was part of our religious studies.

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  • Rev. M. Rodimer
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    Re: Hello, I am Tempered.

    Originally posted by Tempered View Post
    You don't have to be interested in my agnosticism for me to be here. I am here because I am interested in YOUR religion.
    Have you read the Bible yet?

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  • Pastor Ezekiel
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    Re: Hello, I am Tempered.

    Originally posted by Tempered View Post
    You don't have to be interested in my agnosticism for me to be here. I am here because I am interested in YOUR religion.
    If you'd like to find out more about Landover Baptist Church, please read THIS thread created especially for new posters.

    If you have a question, use the "search" function before posting it. Most likely it is being discussed somewhere on this Godly forum. Please don't waste God's precious bandwidth.

    You will keep a respectful tongue in your head whenever addressing your betters, which includes all True Christians™. Failure to do so, or any attempt at inciting debate or mockery of God's Divine Plan, can and will result in the suspension of your posting privileges.

    Your rights on this forum are listed HERE. If you feel that any of these rights have been violated, please don't hesitate to contact a Pastor at once.

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  • gareth the fool
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    Re: Hello, I am Tempered.

    Originally posted by Rev. M. Rodimer View Post
    Who cares?
    Why? Why are you here? This is a Christian church's discussion forum. We're not interested in your agnosticism.

    You don't have to be interested in my agnosticism for me to be here. I am here because I am interested in YOUR religion.

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  • Rev. M. Rodimer
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    Re: Hello, I am Tempered.

    Originally posted by Tempered View Post
    Hello there!

    I have chosen the name Tempered to represent myself here. I am a Deist. My belief is in a creator, not tied to a specific religion. Personally, I consider myself a good person.
    Who cares?

    God considers you equal to homosexuals, rapists, and murderers. He will burn you alive in His Lake of Fire for all time, just like all of them.

    What difference does it make if you're "nice"?

    Please, welcome me to the forums with an open heart.
    Why? Why are you here? This is a Christian church's discussion forum. We're not interested in your agnosticism.

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  • gareth the fool
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    Re: Hello, I am Tempered.

    For the sake of accuracy, could you change my title from "degenerate godmocker" to simply "godmocker" if completely necessary to have it there. Degenerate used in that way is not accurate of my situation here. Also I'm not a Godless Europistan. I believe in *a* god, just not one of any particular doctrine.



    May I remind you of this section of the guide posted by Pastor Billy-Reuben:

    If you are a Muslim, Catholic, Pagan, or other non-Christian, and you are here for some interfaith dialog, then this section is for you.

    Welcome, friend. If you are here in a spirit of peace and wish to learn more about our religion, and want to teach us more about your religion, then you are welcome here. If you are here because you think we are intolerant of your religion, then please go back and read the previous section.

    Keep in mind, however, that most of us are well educated. If your religion has been around for a while and has a large enough following, then it is likely that we have already studied your religion in depth.

    Also keep in mind, that our religion tells us that salvation comes only through Jesus Christ, and that if you aren't a Christian, then you will be damned to the fiery pits of Hell for all eternity. We aren't gloating about this. We treat this fact with all of the solemnity that it deserves. We will not give up on you until we have saved you from this fate.

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  • Capt. Aaron Portway
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    Re: Hello, I am Tempered.

    Originally posted by Tempered View Post
    I LOVE THE SOUND OF MY OWN VOICE. THE GOD I MADE UP IS BETTER THAN YOUR GOD. I'M THE SMARTEST PERSON I KNOW, JUST ASK ME. BUT I'M ALSO TERRIBLY ALONE, SO I CAME HERE FOR SIMPLE HUMAN CONTACT, AND STILL MY ENORMOUS EGO WON'T LET ME ADMIT I FEEL EMPTY INSIDE.

    Shove it heathen, we don't need your kind here. Go sell your craziness somewhere else, we have the Lord to comfort us. What do you have?

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  • gareth the fool
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    Re: Hello, I am Tempered.

    Certainly one thing is clear that we do share, you believe that sometimes the bad is necessary in order to accomplish the greater good. You admonish and antagonize those branded unsaved in order to enlighten them and bring them to your faith. Saying bad or spiteful things unto them in order to show them their errors and improve their lives with your faith.

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