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  • Scary - I do not Give a Flying Crap About Anything Except Me!

    Yes, by your views of god, I'm going to hell. That doesn't bother me. The only question I have is where the golden rule fits in to your views? I only worry about a world where my daughter co-exists with those that place no value in mutual respect.
    Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
    abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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    Re: Scary - I do not Give a Flying Crap About Anything Except Me!

    What is your golden rule?

    For me, it would be to obey God as revealed through the Bible (KJV1611).

    As long as your daughter gets married and bears many, many male childs as soldiers of Christ and is respectful and obedient to her husband I can't see what you have to worry about.

    YIC
    1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

    Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

    Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

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    • #3
      Re: Scary - I do not Give a Flying Crap About Anything Except Me!

      Originally posted by PasstionateAgnostic View Post
      Yes, by your views of god, I'm going to hell. That doesn't bother me. The only question I have is where the golden rule fits in to your views? I only worry about a world where my daughter co-exists with those that place no value in mutual respect.
      Why should you care about your daughter being you are planning to go to Hell? Being you'll be there for an eternity, I am sure the little harlot will be joining you soon enough and the two of you can resume your 'family fun'.

      You see friend, if you do not care about God, why should He care about you and what is important to you. I'll pray your daughter is not as closed minded as you are.
      Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
      Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
      Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
      Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
      Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
      Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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      • #4
        Re: Scary - I do not Give a Flying Crap About Anything Except Me!

        Matthew 7:12
        King James Version (KJV)
        12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

        Though this idea exists in nearly every culture and theology: Treat other as you would like to be treated.

        This is independent of religious views, gender, race, age, or politics.
        Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
        abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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        • #5
          Re: Scary - I do not Give a Flying Crap About Anything Except Me!

          he two of you can resume your 'family fun'.
          Goodness .

          I had know idea they were involved in an incestuous relationship!

          Feminine homolife is not my field but I'm sickened to discover the facts of the matter.

          As ever, Brother Hutchins you are as apropos as you are observant.

          YIC
          1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

          Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

          Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

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          • #6
            Re: Scary - I do not Give a Flying Crap About Anything Except Me!

            Originally posted by James Hutchins View Post
            Why should you care about your daughter being you are planning to go to Hell? Being you'll be there for an eternity, I am sure the little harlot will be joining you soon enough and the two of you can resume your 'family fun'.

            You see friend, if you do not care about God, why should He care about you and what is important to you. I'll pray your daughter is not as closed minded as you are.
            I allow her to make her own choices and enable her to be who she wants to be. I'll respect her choices no matter where they take her. I believe in unconditional love. Family is the the easiest to manifest this love in its truest form.
            Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
            abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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            • #7
              Re: Scary - I do not Give a Flying Crap About Anything Except Me!

              Originally posted by PasstionateAgnostic View Post
              Matthew 7:12
              King James Version (KJV)
              12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

              Though this idea exists in nearly every culture and theology: Treat other as you would like to be treated.

              This is independent of religious views, gender, race, age, or politics.
              Matthew 7 is very popular among those that do not want to follow the whole Bible. However, skipping parts of it just do not make sense. Imagine if your wife were baking a pie and she skipped part of the recipe, leaving key ingredients out like the filling. It really would not be a pie now, would it?

              Chew on the following for a bit:
              Leviticus 19:15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

              or perhaps:
              1st Corinthians 6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
              1st Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
              1st Corinthians 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?.
              1st Corinthians 6:4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
              1st Corinthians 6:5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
              1st Corinthians 6:6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.
              (Notice in particular 6:5 where Paul urges us to Judge fellow "brethren" rather than leaving it up to civil authorities.)
              Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
              Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
              Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
              Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
              Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
              Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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              • #8
                Re: Scary - I do not Give a Flying Crap About Anything Except Me!

                Originally posted by PasstionateAgnostic View Post
                I allow her to make her own choices and enable her to be who she wants to be. I'll respect her choices no matter where they take her. I believe in unconditional love. Family is the the easiest to manifest this love in its truest form.
                Well friend, I know you think your words are mighty and noble but they reek of putrid indifference.
                My own children are allowed to only make good choices. I am involved in their lives. I see to it they make no mistakes. It is called participating in their lives.
                See the difference friend?
                Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
                Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
                Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
                Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
                Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
                Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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                • #9
                  Re: Scary - I do not Give a Flying Crap About Anything Except Me!

                  Originally posted by PasstionateAgnostic View Post
                  Matthew 7:12 King James Version (KJV) Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

                  Though this idea exists in nearly every culture and theology: Treat other as you would like to be treated...
                  Now imagine the other person is a masochist.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Scary - I do not Give a Flying Crap About Anything Except Me!

                    I don't prescribe to follow the bible at all actually. Many of its teachings are in harmony with my own view of this life though. Laurence Niles asked what 'golden rule' I was referring to and I attempted to put it in language you might understand and respect.

                    and no - this does not involve incest or sexual conduct of any kind. Please, extend a mote of respect in this regards.

                    It is one thing to espouse what people call radical ideas on a forum, but I am genuinely curious (and concerned) how True Christians in act rather than words. If I might ask, one of your award is titled "Jailed for Jesus;" what was that for?
                    This is a tangent; I am still curious how respect for others beliefs is expressed in your theology. Using your recipe analogy, even if eggs are a part of the recipe, its a vital one and would not be the same without.
                    Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
                    abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Scary - I do not Give a Flying Crap About Anything Except Me!

                      Originally posted by PasstionateAgnostic View Post
                      I allow her to make her own choices and enable her to be who she wants to be. I'll respect her choices no matter where they take her. I believe in unconditional love. Family is the the easiest to manifest this love in its truest form.
                      Let me ask you this: if your daughter tried to poke a fork in the power socket would you not chastise her?

                      Why do you not instruct her how not to go to Hell? Do you hate her and want her to join you in Hell's depraved embrace of anal rape and sorrow?

                      You so called parents who don't love their childs enough to to stop them going to Hell (for all eternity, mind) make me nauseous.

                      YIC
                      1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

                      Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

                      Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Scary - I do not Give a Flying Crap About Anything Except Me!

                        Originally posted by PasstionateAgnostic View Post
                        I allow her to make her own choices and enable her to be who she wants to be. I'll respect her choices no matter where they take her...
                        What if she doesn't know about cars? Would you still let her play in traffic?

                        Why do you hate your daughter so much?

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                        • #13
                          Re: Scary - I do not Give a Flying Crap About Anything Except Me!

                          Originally posted by PasstionateAgnostic View Post
                          The only question I have is where the golden rule fits in to your views?
                          Christians have only 1 simple rule to live by, it's called KJV 1611. Starts from Genesis and ends to Revelations. Very simple.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Scary - I do not Give a Flying Crap About Anything Except Me!

                            Originally posted by PasstionateAgnostic View Post
                            I don't prescribe to follow the bible at all actually. Many of its teachings are in harmony with my own view of this life though. Laurence Niles asked what 'golden rule' I was referring to and I attempted to put it in language you might understand and respect.

                            and no - this does not involve incest or sexual conduct of any kind. Please, extend a mote of respect in this regards.

                            It is one thing to espouse what people call radical ideas on a forum, but I am genuinely curious (and concerned) how True Christians in act rather than words. If I might ask, one of your award is titled "Jailed for Jesus;" what was that for?
                            This is a tangent; I am still curious how respect for others beliefs is expressed in your theology. Using your recipe analogy, even if eggs are a part of the recipe, its a vital one and would not be the same without.
                            All very simple friend. We follow the KJV Bible. Exactly as God approved it. Every part. No deviation. No exceptions. No interpretations. If God tells us something is good, it is, if He tells us something is bad, it is bad. Who are we to second guess the creator?
                            Some find following Gods Word to be difficult but isn't achieving your finest dreams worth a little effort?
                            Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
                            Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
                            Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
                            Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
                            Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
                            Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Scary

                              Originally posted by Laurence Niles View Post
                              Let me ask you this: if your daughter tried to poke a fork in the power socket would you not chastise her?

                              Why do you not instruct her how not to go to Hell? Do you hate her and want her to join you in Hell's depraved embrace of anal rape and sorrow?

                              You so called parents who don't love their childs enough to to stop them going to Hell (for all eternity, mind) make me nauseous.

                              YIC
                              I of course teach her; let her learn by example; let her make mistakes to a degree, but above all teach her consequences. Putting a fork in the light socket has a very real and immediate consequence. I warn her about the danger, can show her pictures, videos, or even burn victims from doing the action, but ultimately I am not physically capable or able to watch her or prevent her from doing something that she is determined to do. One way or another, she will learn. Putting a fork in an electrical socket would not lessen my love for her.

                              As for the gentleman above who proposes that controlling his children at all times is a greater manifestation of love, I'll politely disagree. I grew up in a very controlling home and have spent years of my adult life coping with the consequences of that. My daughter is incredibly well behaved. I need to discipline her so infrequently that she 1. cries at my disapproval (if I disciplined her frequently, I believe she would be callous) and 2. never repeat the offending action. To clarify, when I say "discipline" I mean put her it time out. I could count the number of times I've spanked her in my life on one hand.
                              Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
                              abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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