[tylerjwoodby, teenaged witch]

Re: Hello.

I would happily die for my LORD if He required it. Sadly, in this former great land of the United States of America, our religious rights are being stripped away so quickly that I would not be surprised if it came to that. It's getting down right dangerous to be a True Christian™ any more.

Everyone has religious rights it is called freedom of religion , but they way you people go about it is nuts

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Hello.

Everyone has religious rights it is called freedom of religion , but they way you people go about it is nuts

If you'd read what I said, you'd know that our freedom of religion is eroding before our very eyes. There is a War on Religion now and you people are persecuting us simply for being obedient unto the LORD.

Not only do you fight us, you brainwash children in your government run schools! They're taught to ignore Truth and instead believe the demonic religion of "science."

[FreeFromBrains]

Re: Hello.

trust me i am nothing like thes people i have a heart full of love not one full of hate

Dude, seriously: I'm a dyed in the wool athiest.

But what you are say about salt and 'negative' energy makes no logical (or even theoretical) sense.

Energy is the capacity to do work. There is no moral valence to energy. You don't get 'positive' or 'negative' energy.

Would you say an electron is evil but a positron is good? I didn't think so.

I may be only 19 but I know that work equals force times distance and that is all it will ever be.

The terms you use to describe 'energy' are a complete nonsense. The world you are describing simply does not exist.

Can I ask, exactly how far educated in the natural sciences are you?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Hello.

Ok first off i am not anti gay, i was born a guy, and i have had bad spelling long befor i was a pagan, and we spell magic with a k to show its difference for stage magic

Yes, stage magic actually does something.

Now, I'm going to respond to LG, since she is capable of writing in coherent sentences.

Wow...okay, I expected a response, but not such an...intense one.

Addressing concerns that Wicca was made up in the 1950s by a sexually exploitive man: Wicca has roots in the most ancient forms of pagan rituals, and variations of it have been practiced throughout history.

There's one little problem with this, LG. There is no written record of any sort detailing the beliefs or rituals of the "ancient pagans" . . . unless you want to rely upon Julius Caesar's accounts of the druids and their human sacrifices.

I'm assuming you don't engage in human sacrifices, right?

Since you don't, but claim to worship the same gods, why do you think you're not angering those gods by ignoring the human sacrifices they demand?

But don't take my word for it: http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_hist.htm/

Joanna Hautin-Mayer has written:

"We know tragically little about the actual religious expressions of the ancient Celts. We have a few myths and legends, but very little archeological evidence to support our theories. We have no written records of their actual forms of worship, and the accounts of their culture and beliefs written by their contemporaries are often highly biased and of questionable historical worth." 1

Ms. Hautin-Mayer is particularly critical of recent Neopagan books which she demonstrates to be largely fictional accounts of the history of Witta 3 (presented as an Irish Pagan tradition), Faery Wicca 4 (presented as an ancient tradition), and 21 Lessons of Merlyn 5 (a somewhat racist and sexist account of Druidism).

Silver RavenWolf wrote in 1998:

"Wicca, as you practice the religion today, is a new religion, barely fifty years old. The techniques you use at present are not entirely what your elders practiced even thirty years ago.

Dude, seriously: I'm a dyed in the wool athiest.

But what you are say about salt and 'negative' energy makes no logical (or even theoretical) sense.

Energy is the capacity to do work. There is no moral valence to energy. You don't get 'positive' or 'negative' energy.

Would you say an electron is evil but a positron is good? I didn't think so.

Actually, he probably would.

[Faith_Machine]

Re: Hello.

Well when people are around others there moods can affect you in ways, salt has always been a sorse of purification with meny religions, including some branches of chritanity with its "holywater", but any way the salt destroyes the negitive energy just like burning sage it gets rid of it so no it would not harm marine life and i di not know about the suage systems

Thanks, but I was hoping you would explain the physics and the chemistry involved in this process. How, exactly, does another person's negative energy get onto your body, and how, precisely, does salt and water remove this negative energy? Is there a way of taking measurements to determine just how much negative energy you're carrying before and after the salt treatment, so you can know whether it's working?

[Didymus Much]

Re: Hello.

...Is there a way of taking measurements to determine just how much negative energy you're carrying before and after the salt treatment, so you can know whether it's working?

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[Capt. Aaron Portway]

Re: Hello.

Wow...okay, I expected a response, but not such an...intense one.

Addressing concerns that Wicca was made up in the 1950s by a sexually exploitive man: Wicca has roots in the most ancient forms of pagan rituals . . .
blah blah blah blah blah blah . . .

A tree has roots in the ground, but that doesn't make it dirt. Wicca is as ancient as my iPad.

I bet you're fat. Like really fat.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Hello.

Wicca has roots in the most ancient forms of pagan rituals, and variations of it have been practiced throughout history.

I was trying to explain this to the other wiccan here. You have no idea what rituals and worship ancient pagans engaged in. They were extinct until L. Ron Hubbard's (founder of scientology) pal suddenly came up with a book of magic spells.

You are following Gardner's made up religion. Nothing else.

Frankly, I'm a little concerned that they are indoctrinating you into a lesbian cult. You're a young girl and they're mostly dykes. They have you getting used to nudity around them working you slowly into becoming their property.

[tylerjwoodby, teenaged witch]

Re: Hello.

Thanks, but I was hoping you would explain the physics and the chemistry involved in this process. How, exactly, does another person's negative energy get onto your body, and how, precisely, does salt and water remove this negative energy? Is there a way of taking measurements to determine just how much negative energy you're carrying before and after the salt treatment, so you can know whether it's working?

I am not good at the science about it i am more in to history

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: Hello.

I am not good at the science about it i am more in to history

Then you will know that, historically, salt has been used for flavouring food and... well, that's it really. That's all it's good for.

[FreeFromBrains]

I am not good at the science about it i am more in to history

This is a classic example of why I would find it very very hard to have anyone as a friend who believes in this woo woo shit. You spout on about 'energy' but when asked to define your terms you admit to being completely clueless.

You know, you are worse than these idiots: at least when you ask them why they beleive in the crazy shit they do they can point to the Bible.

You just say 'I dunno'.

Do you have any reasonable justification for holding the anti science views about salt and 'energy' that you espouse?

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Hello.

I am not good at the science about it i am more in to history

That's because unlike Biblical science your nonsense about salt and negative energy was made up by other people to fool the gullible into thinking they had all the answers so you'd give them way more respect than was their due.