Here Enters Jonathon Wilder

[JonathonWilder]

Greetings to thos here, I am glad I could join this... interesting site and I hope I may discussion the Truth as well as other subjects with those here for many days to come. I am a Nontrinitarian Christian that studies the Holy Bible every day of his life and follows it's words. I have come to understand it to a fair digree, though not as much as I would like. I pray to my Father to understand his words, and follow them in my daily life.

I hope I may find good things to come on this site.
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More about me:
I love to read, though I do have a fondness for Myths, Legends, and Folklore... though the 'gods' of mythology and fantasy could never measure up to the one true God and it is nothing but fiction. I also study other religions as well, especially the other Abrahamic faiths and Taoism. I am currently working on a historical fantasy that will focus on the life of a 17 centery english gentleman and this travels around the world. Of his struggles and his battles with 'demons of his past'.

[Nobar King]

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Are you writing this story in your native language and which is it?

[Brother Jared]

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Welcome. Maybe it's your ignorant nontrinitarian views that hold you from providing the three requirements of a proper introduction here? -Tell us what church you go to and what your favorite Bible verse is and how you came to find Jesus.

I have come to understand it to a fair digree, though not as much as I would like.

Maybe you should study the Bible a bit more instead of wasting your time on false religions.

I am currently working on a historical fantasy that will focus on the life of a 17 centery english gentleman and this travels around the world. Of his struggles and his battles with 'demons of his past'.

Historical fantasy? Exactly what does that mean? I hope the story is about how he defeats his demons with his belief in Christ

[JonathonWilder]

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I would like thos here to refain from insults.
I am American born and my native language is English.
I am not a Landover Baptist, which I believe is all that matters here. My favorite scripture is: John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
I read the Bible every day, morning and night even some days when I have the time in the afternoons.
It is a fantasy based novel but I will be using historical facts and history in it's creation. Also yes he will defeat his demons, but it will be by letting go of the reget and pain of losing his family. His Pain, Rage, and Sorrow of watching his family murdered... and lastly his Longing for his departed wife.
((Also I wish this site allowed one to sdit their posts so I could fix the small typing mistakes that I have made.))

[James Hutchins]

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I assume you like long walks on the beach, kittens and bubble baths too.

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

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I would like thos here to refain from insults.
I am American born and my native language is English.
I am not a Landover Baptist, which I believe is all that matters here. My favorite scripture is: John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
I read the Bible every day, morning and night even some days when I have the time in the afternoons.
It is a fantasy based novel but I will be using historical facts and history in it's creation. Also yes he will defeat his demons, but it will be by letting go of the reget and pain of losing his family. His Pain, Rage, and Sorrow of watching his family murdered... and lastly his Longing for his departed wife.
((Also I wish this site allowed one to sdit their posts so I could fix the small typing mistakes that I have made.))

Use your preview button to proofread your posts before you post them.

Welcome to our blessed forum friend. How old are you? How many sons has your wife blessed you with? Why do you care about Jews and Muslims?

[JonathonWilder]

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I assume you like long walks on the beach, kittens and bubble baths too.

Actually no, give me a good book anyday that I can curl up with. Though liking kittens isn't so far off because I love animals. I don't normal have the time for bubble baths.

On how I found Jesus it was through the studying of the Holy Bible and having the wish and desire to be saved by him. To follow God's word completely and fully.

[JonathonWilder]

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Use your preview button to proofread your posts before you post them.

Welcome to our blessed forum friend. How old are you? How many sons has your wife blessed you with? Why do you care about Jews and Muslims?

Thank you for being respectful, and I am 23. I am not married as of yet, though when I do get married I hope and pray for children. Especially a daughter, who's name will be Naomi.
I care because they are connected to us, heck Jesus Christ was born and raised a Jew. Christianity didn't come about until after his death. For all of the Old Testament Jews were God's Chosen People. That and it is religious history.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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Dear friend:

I welcome you in Christ's abundant love. I wonder, however, how being a non-Trinitarian Christian accords with Scripture. The Bible clearly shows us that the Father and the Son can have different bodies of knowledge and different wills:

Mark 13:32: But of that day and [that] hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

Luke 22:41-42: And he was withdrawn from them about a stone's cast, and kneeled down, and prayed, Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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Welcome to our friendly forums!

I do hope you will open your mind to Christ, the real Christ, the one who is the Son of God, Second Person of the Trinity.

I and my Father are one.
John 10:30

Without faith in HIM, you will not be saved, regardless of how much you love your version of Him.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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Dear friend:

I welcome you in Christ's abundant love. I wonder, however, how being a non-Trinitarian Christian accords with Scripture. The Bible clearly shows us that the Father and the Son can have different bodies of knowledge and different wills:

Brother, I think he might be a Jehovah's Witness.

[JonathonWilder]

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Thank you both for the welcome, I am glad for it.


Subordination Within the Trinity
Orthodox Trinitarianism asserts that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are also co-equals, but plenty of Bible verses show subordination among them:
•Jesus Christ calls the Father "my father" (Luke 22:2) and the Father calls Jesus Christ "my beloved Son" (Mark 1:11). The father-son relationship is not based on equality.
•Jesus Christ submitted to the will of the Father (Matt 26:39.) The fact that Christ prays to the the Father at all signifies an unequal relationship.
•The Father "sent" the son to the world (1 John 4:10.)
•The Holy Spirit is sent by the Father and the Son (John 14:26, John 15:26.)

Jesus Christ as the Son of God
Trinitarianism states that even though the Father and Son are distinct persons, God and the Son are the same divine being. But in John 11:4 Jesus Christ calls himself "the Son of God," not just the son of the Father. Christ's disciples after His death also preached that "Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God" (John 20:31; see also Acts 9:20, 2 Corinthians 1:19.)
In many places in the New Testament, the Son is also said to sit at the "right hand of God," not just at the right hand of the Father (Acts 7:55-56, Mark 16:19, Acts 2:33, Romans 8:34.)


Reconciling John 17:22 with the Concept of a Holy Trinity
Perhaps the hardest Biblical verse to reconcile with the Trinity is John 17:22, which reads "that they may be one, even as we are one." Christ is praying for the faithful believers to be one with each other in the same sense that the Father and the Son are one. In keeping with the Trinity, this would have to mean that Christ is praying for all believers to become one entity or being.
These issues show that there may be more to the relationship of the members of the Godhead than the Trinity can answer.


Source:
The Holy Bible, King James Version
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Sorry but I believe the doctrine of the Trinity is not of God but of man, the Trinity is not supported by the Holy Bible.

[James Hutchins]

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I would like thos here to refain from insults.
I am American born and my native language is English.
I am not a Landover Baptist, which I believe is all that matters here. My favorite scripture is: John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
I read the Bible every day, morning and night even some days when I have the time in the afternoons.
It is a fantasy based novel but I will be using historical facts and history in it's creation. Also yes he will defeat his demons, but it will be by letting go of the reget and pain of losing his family. His Pain, Rage, and Sorrow of watching his family murdered... and lastly his Longing for his departed wife.
((Also I wish this site allowed one to sdit their posts so I could fix the small typing mistakes that I have made.))

Friend, not everyone has a IQ over 100. It is Okay.

I am concerned about the words of yours above (I bolded them). What do you mean by that? I hope you misplaced your thoughts, wandered off on some tangent and was talking about Sherlock Holmes or something and not the Bible, which anyone worth a grain knows is the inerrant Word of God.

[JonathonWilder]

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Brother, I think he might be a Jehovah's Witness.

No I am not, they are not God's church

Friend, not everyone has a IQ over 100. It is Okay.
I am concerned about the words of yours above (I bolded them). What do you mean by that? I hope you misplaced your thoughts, wandered off on some tangent and was talking about Sherlock Holmes or something and not the Bible, which anyone worth a grain knows is the inerrant Word of God.

One can follow the bible fully and still read other books. I am a lover of books and novels, I can seperate fact from fiction. Fantasy is not real, yet can be enjoyable to read.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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Brother, I think he might be a Jehovah's Witness.

I rather suspect he's sitting in magic underwear as we speak.