Suppose the first thing I should state is I am an atheist looking for intellectual discussion against believers. Hopefully, no one gets too upset about my belief (or lack thereof).
Well, I suppose there will be not much sense replying to you then. This is one of the most terrible introductions I ever saw on this forum:
It clearly states:
Tell us what church you go to and what your favorite Bible verse is and how you came to find Jesus.
And you announce that you are a Christ-mocking, anal-raping, evilusionist atheist....
I already feel my time being wasted
II Kings 2:23-24: 23And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. 24And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.
It's very sad you want to burn in Hell but seeing as you are too closed minded to believe in Jesus who died temporarily so you could be saved I guess it would be futile to get upset about it.
You only need to lurk to find out all about the joys of loving Jesus. For example, did you know He loves you so much He will burn you forever if you don't believe in Him. That's a really committed incentive to turn from sin. It certainly works for me.
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Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.
John 5:46,47For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?
Well, I suppose there will be not much sense replying to you then. This is one of the most terrible introductions I ever saw on this forum:
It clearly states:
Tell us what church you go to and what your favorite Bible verse is and how you came to find Jesus.
And you announce that you are a Christ-mocking, anal-raping, evilusionist atheist....
I already feel my time being wasted
Yes, I saw what it says, but how exactly does an atheist answer those questions, eh? I am none of those things. I do respect Christianity, and no, I am not evil.
It's very sad you want to burn in Hell but seeing as you are too closed minded to believe in Jesus who died temporarily so you could be saved I guess it would be futile to get upset about it.
You only need to lurk to find out all about the joys of loving Jesus. For example, did you know He loves you so much He will burn you forever if you don't believe in Him. That's a really committed incentive to turn from sin. It certainly works for me.
Perhaps you're right and I'm wrong, yeah. Could be. I'd actually not wish to go to hell, presuming it exists, no.
Also, in one of the "Guide threads" on this forum it says intellectual discussion with atheists is permitted. Just seems odd to be getting bashed with the first two posts in an intro thread.
Suppose the first thing I should state is I am an atheist looking for intellectual discussion against believers. Hopefully, no one gets too upset about my belief (or lack thereof).
Cheers!
Friend, people like you come here all the time claiming to be an 'atheist'. The first questioj you need to ask yourself is:
Why did you come to a Christian site to reafirm your beleifs?
The second question you need to ask yourself is:
Why do I need to prove to myself?
You see friend, God sees you utter lack of commital and therefore He has hope you can still be Saved(c). So Jesus guided your hand to us.
God (in His infinite Wisdom) has us do mundane tasks for Him, such as convert the gaywise to be clean living men. He also has us help confused men like you.
Tell me son, were you raised a catlick? Show us on the below image where 'Uncle Vicars' touched you:
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it? Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
Also, in one of the "Guide threads" on this forum it says intellectual discussion with atheists is permitted. Just seems odd to be getting bashed with the first two posts in an intro thread.
Yeah, but our experience is that an intelligent discussion with an atheist is a very unlikely event.
II Kings 2:23-24: 23And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. 24And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.
God (in His infinite Wisdom) has us do mundane tasks for Him, such as convert the gaywise to be clean living men. He also has us help confused men like you.
Oh, well feel free to try. Though, your efforts may be in vain.
I did not come here to 'reaffirm my (lack of) belief. I simply came here for intellectual discussion, just as the OP says.
Now, now, you know that is not true. You do not see any True Christian(tm) going to God hating atheist sites, do you? You have doubts. Admit it.
Oh, well feel free to try. Though, your efforts may be in vain.
That friend, is illogical. You came here for a reason, We both know what the reason is. I have freely stated what that reason is. You can too.
Tell me this, Do you know for an absolute fact that God is not real?
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it? Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
Now, now, you know that is not true. You do not see any True Christian™ going to God hating atheist sites, do you? You have doubts. Admit it.
As an atheist, I do question my lack of belief, occasionally, yes. However, I have doubts you will be very successful in attempts to "convert" me.
That friend, is illogical. You came here for a reason, We both know what the reason is. I have freely stated what that reason is. You can too.
Above. I am not doubting my atheism.
Tell me this, Do you know for an absolute fact that God is not real?
Of course not. I am not a gnostic atheist, I am an agnostic atheist. I tend to think of gnostic atheists (people who claim to know god does not exist) as fools.
As an atheist, I do question my lack of belief, occasionally, yes. However, I have doubts you will be very successful in attempts to "convert" me.
Friend, I do not have to 'convert you'. I am happy that you are honest. You accept you simply do not know if there is a God yet when provided mountains of proofs on a daily basis and knowing Poes law, you still chose to urinate on His sandals.
Why do you think that is?
Above. I am not doubting my atheism.
Of course you are. You would not be here otherwise.
Of course not. I am not a gnostic atheist, I am an agnostic atheist. I tend to think of gnostic atheists (people who claim to know god does not exist) as fools.
Your wishy washy comment leads me to understand you are simply clueless and instead of seeking the truth, you want someone to hand it to you on a silver platter.
Do you know for an absolute fact God exists?
Yes.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it? Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
Read the first few verses of Genesis. Now go outside and look around.
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Look familiar?
Yours in Christ,
Z. Smyth
*Sigh*
How exactly is there evidence for a deity? You *do* know there is scientific explanations for the universe's existence? [The Big Bang theory (to explain how the universe was caused) and abiogenesis (to explain how life was created)].
The scientist in me will gladly explain them, if so requested.
Okay, then? How. Provide evidence. Surely you know any rational person needs evidence, and you claim to *KNOW* god exists.
Friend, you stated you do not believe in Him and I asked you to prove it. You have failed to do so. You cannot weasel your answers via the proofs supplied by others. Where is the 'intellect' you so boldly pronouced you had the capacity to share?
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it? Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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