Hello.

[Tool of satan]

Hello. I am a 'de facto' atheist.
To quote someone you all probably hate, "I don't know for certain but I think God is very improbable, and I live my life on the assumption that he is not there."

What church I go to: None at the moment. I used to when I was young but it was what you would call a 'false Christian' church.

Favorite bible verse: As of right now,it's this.Elegant phrasing.

And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God (Revelation 19:17)

How I came to find Jesus:
As stated before, I am an atheist, so I didn't 'find' Jesus. I first learned about Jesus in a Christian church, which is when I first read the Bible. Since it's been so long, I now only have a rudimentary grasp on specific sections of the Bible.

So why am I here? It's my personal belief that knowledge is helpful, rather than destructive. For me, personally. So I'm here to acquire knowledge, gain insight on opposing viewpoints, and so on.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Hello.

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[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Hello.

So why am I here? It's my personal belief that knowledge is helpful, rather than destructive. For me, personally. So I'm here to acquire knowledge, gain insight on opposing viewpoints, and so on.

Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

This is where you are going wrong and why you still feel like you need answers. All these troublesome questions you feel the need to answer go away when you put your trust in the Lord. I don't worry about anything I don't understand any more because the Lord my God is watching over me and will help me into Heaven.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Hello.

Hello. I am a 'de facto' atheist.

So you're only a practicing atheist?

To quote someone you all probably hate, "I don't know for certain but I think God is very improbable, and I live my life on the assumption that he is not there."

Ah, I see, so you're not going to kick God to the curb, "just in case". Do you really think that's going to help you in front of the seat of Judgement?

What church I go to: None at the moment. I used to when I was young but it was what you would call a 'false Christian' church.

So you're basing your atheism on wrong teachings?

Favorite bible verse: As of right now,it's this.Elegant phrasing.

And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God (Revelation 19:17)

A beautiful scripture.

How I came to find Jesus:
As stated before, I am an atheist, so I didn't 'find' Jesus. I first learned about Jesus in a Christian church, which is when I first read the Bible. Since it's been so long, I now only have a rudimentary grasp on specific sections of the Bible.

No, you learned about some sort of "jesus" in a false church. Not quite sure which church you meant (please don't say catholic) but it took me until my late 30's to find a proper Bible Believing church.

So why am I here? It's my personal belief that knowledge is helpful, rather than destructive. For me, personally. So I'm here to acquire knowledge, gain insight on opposing viewpoints, and so on.

Well then you're in the right place. We follow the entire Bible, none of this "that doesn't count any more" or "the Bible says X but really means Y" or taking one line out of context.

[Tool of satan]

Re: Hello.

So you're only a practicing atheist?

The explanation of what I meant is underneath that. "I don't know for certain but I think God is very improbable, and I live my life on the assumption that he is not there."

Ah, I see, so you're not going to kick God to the curb, "just in case". Do you really think that's going to help you in front of the seat of Judgement?

The "just in case" is because God is a possibility, not "just in case" so I can go to heaven.

So you're basing your atheism on wrong teachings?

No. My atheistic beliefs are not based on the teachings of that church.

No, you learned about some sort of "jesus" in a false church. Not quite sure which church you meant (please don't say catholic) but it took me until my late 30's to find a proper Bible Believing church.

No, it was a Protestant church, most of them were moderates.

Well then you're in the right place. We follow the entire Bible, none of this "that doesn't count any more" or "the Bible says X but really means Y" or taking one line out of context.

I think everyone does that. Unless you use only phrases verbatim from the Bible, and take only it's literal meaning, you are interpreting it in some way.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Hello.

The "just in case" is because God is a possibility, not "just in case" so I can go to heaven.

Unfortunately thinking that "God is a possiblility" isn't going to save you when you're in front of the Judgment Seat.

No. My atheistic beliefs are not based on the teachings of that church.

So what made you decide to reject God?

No, it was a Protestant church, most of them were moderates.

So yeah, it would be a false church. At least it wasn't catholic though.

I think everyone does that. Unless you use only phrases verbatim from the Bible, and take only it's literal meaning, you are interpreting it in some way.

That's exactly HOW you're supposed to read the Bible

Psalm 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.


2nd Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

[Tool of satan]

Re: Hello.

Unfortunately thinking that "God is a possiblility" isn't going to save you when you're in front of the Judgment Seat.

I understand.

So what made you decide to reject God?

Encouragement from others to keep an open mind and use logical thought.

So yeah, it would be a false church. At least it wasn't catholic though.



That's exactly HOW you're supposed to read the Bible

Psalm 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.


2nd Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Yes, that is how I thought True Christians read the Bible. However, I noticed a few discrepancies.

For example, Brother Alex's explanation of biblical support for a flat earth:

Revelation 7:1:
And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

A spherical earth cannot have corners, it is scientifically impossible. The only logical explanation is that the earth is flat. Checkmate atheists!

How exactly does one come to the conclusion that God is unable to create a spherical earth with four corners when, according to the bible, God's ability is limitless?

I think, from this, all you can assume is that the earth has four corners, not that it is flat.

I apologize if it actually states in the Bible that 'the earth is flat', though this interpretation would still be a little faulty.

[Deaner]

Re: Hello.

I now only have a rudimentary grasp on specific sections of the Bible.

Really? I would never have guessed that.

Yet you come here arguing on very important important and valuable staples of the Bible and of life itself.

Would you advise Chuck Palmer whether to chip or putt on what looks like a simple shot from the very edge of the green when you had never played golf?

[Tool of satan]

Re: Hello.

Really? I would never have guessed that.

Yet you come here arguing on very important important and valuable staples of the Bible and of life itself.

Would you advise Chuck Palmer whether to chip or putt on what looks like a simple shot from the very edge of the green when you had never played golf?

I don't think I've argued directly against the Bible yet.

No to that question. Please read the posts above.

[Deaner]

Re: Hello.

I don't think I've argued directly against the Bible yet.

No to that question. Please read the posts above.

Why are you here then? Your "statements" seem to provoke debate. Did you not read our statement here.

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=39

... as our good Pastor Ezekiel instructed you?

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Hello.

Encouragement from others to keep an open mind and use logical thought.

I'm sorry that Satan's minions have swayed you. Then again, maybe this is Jesus' plan. Maybe you were drawn away from the church and brought here to learn the truth.

Yes, that is how I thought True Christians read the Bible. However, I noticed a few discrepancies.

For example, Brother Alex's explanation of biblical support for a flat earth:


How exactly does one come to the conclusion that God is unable to create a spherical earth with four corners when, according to the bible, God's ability is limitless?

I think, from this, all you can assume is that the earth has four corners, not that it is flat.

Yeah, that's along the lines of "can God make a rock so heavy that he can't lift it?" puts you into a paradoxical loop and isn't really a question.

As for Brother Alex's explanation, a CIRCLE can have four corners in a way (by implementing a square upon it) but there is no way of giving a SPHERE four corners. At best you would give it 8 corners by putting a cube in it. But if you want to continue down this alley, I suggest we take it back over to the proper forum.

I apologize if it actually states in the Bible that 'the earth is flat', though this interpretation would still be a little faulty.

Genesis 11:1-9
Isaiah 11:12
Revelation 7:1
Job 38:13
Jeremiah 16:19
Daniel 4:11
Matthew 4:8
Psalm 104:5
Psalm 93:1
Job 9:6
Job 38:4
Isaiah 40:22

[Tool of satan]

Re: Hello.

Why are you here then. Your "statements" seem to provoke debate. Did you not read our statement here.
http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=39

Yes, I have read it. I am not trying to incite debate, I am merely asking for a clarification or explanation.

In my first post in this thread, I explained why I am here.

So why am I here? It's my personal belief that knowledge is helpful, rather than destructive. For me, personally. So I'm here to acquire knowledge, gain insight on opposing viewpoints, and so on.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Hello.

Yes, I have read it. I am not trying to incite debate, I am merely asking for a clarification or explanation.

In my first post in this thread, I explained why I am here.

Friend, belief in God is knowledge. Denial of Him is a lack of knowledge.

People deny what they do not know.

[Deaner]

Re: Hello.

In my first post in this thread, I explained why I am here. So why am I here? It's my personal belief that knowledge is helpful, rather than destructive. For me, personally. So I'm here to acquire knowledge, gain insight on opposing viewpoints, and so on.

So when we give you the answers, why do you keep "debating" them. You ask a question, we give you the truthful answer yet you keep shooting your yap off. How is that not debating?

[Tool of satan]

Re: Hello.

But if you want to continue down this alley, I suggest we take it back over to the proper forum.

Agreed.

James Hutchins, thank you for your input, I do agree that some people deny what they do not know.

Deaner, some answers require clarification.