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  • #46
    Re: Hello, Friends!

    Originally posted by JohnGerkoff View Post
    ...4.) There evidence isn't evidence, it's pointing at a book made thousands of years ago...
    ev·i·dence [ev-i-duhns] Show IPA noun, verb, ev·i·denced, ev·i·denc·ing.
    noun
    1. that which tends to prove or disprove something; ground for belief; proof.
    2. something that makes plain or clear; an indication or sign: His flushed look was visible evidence of his fever.
    3. Law. data presented to a court or jury in proof of the facts in issue and which may include the testimony of witnesses, records, documents, or objects.
    from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/evidence
    *sigh* It's evidence, whether you accept it or not.

    Definitions of words ARE NOT UP TO YOU. Even if you learn nothing else here, please absorb that.

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    • #47
      Re: Hello, Friends!

      Originally posted by JohnGerkoff View Post
      Nah, man. Neither hell or heaven exists. You seem to forget that when you die, your brain stops working; therefor you can no longer process information.
      We know hell exists because Jesus tells us so.

      Mat 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

      We know heaven exists because Jesus would have told us if it didn't.

      Jn 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
      sigpicMt 21:42, 44 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes . . . ? And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

      Find out what the Bible says about: Fortnite: Battle Royale, asexuality, shaving, psychiatry, chronic fatigue syndrome, babies

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      • #48
        Re: Hello, Friends!

        Originally posted by Didymus Much View Post
        *sigh* It's evidence, whether you accept it or not.

        Definitions of words ARE NOT UP TO YOU. Even if you learn nothing else here, please absorb that.
        So you are saying that the bible is evidence that God exists? Because I'm saying it's not.
        Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
        abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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        • #49
          Re: Hello, Friends!

          Originally posted by JohnGerkoff View Post
          So you are saying that the bible is evidence that God exists? Because I'm saying it's not.
          Wow, what a compelling argument.

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          • #50
            Re: Hello, Friends!

            Originally posted by JohnGerkoff View Post
            So you are saying that the bible is evidence that God exists? Because I'm saying it's not.
            Is English your first language?



            By the dictionary definition, it IS evidence. Whether you accept it as proof, is another question entirely.

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            • #51
              Re: Hello, Friends!

              Originally posted by JohnGerkoff View Post
              So you are saying that the bible is evidence that God exists? Because I'm saying it's not.
              Just where do you get off trying to redefine the Bible?

              1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

              Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

              Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

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              • #52
                Re: Hello, Friends!

                Originally posted by Dr Laurence Niles View Post
                Just where do you get off trying to redefine the Bible?

                JohnGerkoff soon he'll make it to arthropod

                "O Oysters, come and walk with us!"
                The Walrus did beseech.
                "A pleasant walk, a pleasant talk,
                Along the briny beach:
                We cannot do with more than four,
                To give a hand to each."

                The eldest Oyster looked at him,
                But never a word he said:
                The eldest Oyster winked his eye,
                And shook his heavy head--
                Meaning to say he did not choose
                To leave the oyster-bed.

                But four young Oysters hurried up,
                All eager for the treat:
                Their coats were brushed, their faces washed,
                Their shoes were clean and neat--
                And this was odd, because, you know,
                They hadn't any feet.
                OK, OK, mollusc.

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                • #53
                  Re: Hello, Friends!

                  Originally posted by Pim Pendergast View Post
                  We know hell exists because Jesus tells us so.

                  Mat 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

                  We know heaven exists because Jesus would have told us if it didn't.

                  Jn 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
                  Someone saying something exists isn't evidence. Someone saying someone said something is not evidence either.
                  Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
                  abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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                  • #54
                    Re: Hello, Friends!

                    Originally posted by Didymus Much View Post
                    Is English your first language?



                    By the dictionary definition, it IS evidence. Whether you accept it as proof, is another question entirely.
                    By dictionary definition, fiction is not evidence. The bible is fictional.
                    Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
                    abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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                    • #55
                      Re: Hello, Friends!

                      Originally posted by JohnGerkoff View Post
                      By dictionary definition, fiction is not evidence. The bible is real.
                      The idiots who run this forum exchange out the word fiction_al for real so they can attempt win arguments. But that statement is still correct, the bible is real, but most of it's contents have been proven false. (It also attempted to change moro_n to mormon.)
                      Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
                      abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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                      • #56
                        Re: Hello, Friends!

                        Originally posted by JohnGerkoff View Post
                        Someone saying something exists isn't evidence.
                        Yes it is.


                        Someone saying someone said something is not evidence either
                        That's not.

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                        • #57
                          Re: Hello, Friends!

                          Originally posted by JohnGerkoff View Post
                          Someone saying something exists isn't evidence. Someone saying someone said something is not evidence either.
                          According to the Bible, the word of two or three witnesses is enough to establish the truth of a matter.

                          Deut 19:5 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established. See also Deut 17:6; Mat 18:16; 2 Cor 13:1; 1Tim 5:19; Heb 10:28.

                          Jn 8:17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.

                          We have four witnesses to Jesus' ministry -- Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. The resurrected Christ appeared to about 500 witnesses (1 Cor 15:6). Since none of the witnesses to Christ's ministry and resurrection are alive today, all we have is the word of the authors of the New Testament that Jesus said what He said and did what He did. Of course, Jesus Himself was killed on the testimony of false witnesses (Matt 26:59-61) -- as were Stephen (Acts 6:11-14) and Naboth (1 Ki 21:1-15) -- but this fulfilled a divine purpose. No wonder we have such a hard time getting through to you atheists. You set the bar too high! If two people saying stuff isn't enough proof, what is?
                          sigpicMt 21:42, 44 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes . . . ? And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

                          Find out what the Bible says about: Fortnite: Battle Royale, asexuality, shaving, psychiatry, chronic fatigue syndrome, babies

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                          • #58
                            Re: Hello, Friends!

                            Originally posted by Pim Pendergast View Post
                            According to the Bible, the word of two or three witnesses is enough to establish the truth of a matter.

                            Deut 19:5 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established. See also Deut 17:6; Mat 18:16; 2 Cor 13:1; 1Tim 5:19; Heb 10:28.

                            Jn 8:17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.

                            We have four witnesses to Jesus' ministry -- Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. The resurrected Christ appeared to about 500 witnesses (1 Cor 15:6). Since none of the witnesses to Christ's ministry and resurrection are alive today, all we have is the word of the authors of the New Testament that Jesus said what He said and did what He did. Of course, Jesus Himself was killed on the testimony of false witnesses (Matt 26:59-61) -- as were Stephen (Acts 6:11-14) and Naboth (1 Ki 21:1-15) -- but this fulfilled a divine purpose. No wonder we have such a hard time getting through to you atheists. You set the bar too high! If two people saying stuff isn't enough proof, what is?
                            Good to know; I'm going to go get three people to say they saw God not exist.
                            Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
                            abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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                            • #59
                              Re: Hello, Friends!

                              Originally posted by JohnGerkoff View Post
                              Good to know; I'm going to go get three people to say they saw God not exist.
                              I pray that they have better manners and analytical skills than you do.

                              YiC,

                              Zech
                              sigpic

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                              • #60
                                Re: Hello, Friends!

                                Originally posted by JohnGerkoff View Post
                                ...I'm going to go get three people to say they saw God not exist.
                                I Peter 3:15-16: But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear: Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.

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