[Pastor Ed Lowman]

Re: hello im jack Henry Williams!

well half Serbian a grew up in serbia and moved to Australia in the early 80s people questioned my name so i changed it originally my name was luca Jovanovic and i only learned English here i have a wife and 2 happy kids i married a Australian woman who cared for me in my time of need.

Well, I'm glad you changed your name to something American and decent, like Jack. Good going.

and no need to show off our god for we are safe knowing he lives in our heart!

Which of these verses do you NOT understand?

14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.
16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. (Matthew 5:14-16)

18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. (James 2:18)

well there is never any definite, what if were wrong and some othere religion or non at all are right?

Then you better know the Bible to make sure that doesn't happen.

the bible did say the world is flat we know it is not it also said that we came from 2 people (-Lilith) and we know that is impossible(incest defects) and noah's ark is also false first of all getting 2 of every animal on a boat 1 3rd the size of titanic cant happen and the fact it would take years to get that many animals and in that time many of them would die and how about our scientific advancements if a god didnt want us to find this out why would he put these there these faults in the holy book.

You are a lost soul, Jack, and I only hope you can one day find your way to God before it is too late.

The Bible says the world is flat (see Job 9:6; 1 Sam. 2:8; Matthew 4:8). And if so-called science comes along and tells us something is impossible and God says it is, then we must simply re-evaluate what is possible and admit that said act is possible after all. If God says 2+2 is 5, that's good enough for me.

Praying for your soul,

Pastor Ed

[Mark L. Snyde, PhD]

Re: hello im jack Henry Williams!

...If God says 2+2 is 5, that's good enough for me...

I am a mathematician, and I couldn't agree more with that.

If anything I do in mathematics is in disagreement with The Word of God, then I know the mathematics as defined by man is flawed and must be discarded. The mathematics of God is perfect, but most scientists twist it to fit their own agendas, like heathens will twist everything from God.

[Pastor Ed Lowman]

Re: hello im jack Henry Williams!

I am a mathematician, and I couldn't agree more with that.

If anything I do in mathematics is in disagreement with The Word of God, then I know the mathematics as defined by man is flawed and must be discarded. The mathematics of God is perfect, but most scientists twist it to fit their own agendas, like heathens will twist everything from God.

That's because (unlike Jack here) you truly love Jesus and have your values in the right place, including your love for God's Math©. I'd imagine you really love 1 Kings 7:23-26 and 2 Chron 4:2-5, which identify Pi as equaling 3.

Let be true but every man a liar, right (Romans 3:4)?

[Mark L. Snyde, PhD]

Re: hello im jack Henry Williams!

That's because (unlike Jack here) you truly love Jesus and have your values in the right place, including your love for God's Math©. I'd imagine you really love 1 Kings 7:23-26 and 2 Chron 4:2-5, which identify Pi as equaling 3.

Let be true but every man a liar, right (Romans 3:4)?

Yes, while this places me outside of mainstream mathematics, I know for a fact that the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter is exactly 3. This simply means that the circle as taught in sickular schools is flawed.

But, then we True Believers™ should question ourselves deeply when we find ourselves agreeing with the world.

[Jack Rankan]

Re: hello im jack Henry Williams!

Welcome Jack, I urge to you - read the Bible, KJV1611 nothing else, with an open heart and accept in to your heart and stop being a hell bound trash that you are now. Seven hours of driving to get to church? If you'd really loved , you would drive even twelve hours to church. You are just using excuses... And another thing, is that church a church or one of those pretend to be Christian churches?

[James Hutchins]

Re: hello im jack Henry Williams!

i am new to this form i am a true to my heart but yet believe people can have there own thoughts i do not go to a church for i think loving and cherishing god should a private thing between god and i.

i have read the bible i love thy neighbor and i am open to advancements of the future.... just ask about anything else!

Welcome Jack.
So you think Gods Word is a pile of hooey and you think you can do better? Awesome! Could you do me a favor, could you create an identical Earth, only better (no joos, nigras or bugs, I dislike horse flies!). Take a week, no need to rush it out in six days.

[Jerk Wanker]

Re: hello im jack Henry Williams!

did you know phones dont exist.....

the bible dosnt mention them so they dont exist!

phone's exist's because people made them

the bible exist's because a group of people wrote it

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: hello im jack Henry Williams!

did you know phones dont exist.....

the bible dosnt mention them so they dont exist!

phone's exist's because people made them

the bible exist's because a group of people wrote it

First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus and the Holy Word of God. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .

If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

[Jerk Wanker]

Re: hello im jack Henry Williams!

im not worried about hell its a empty threat....

a god wouldn't make us just to torture us (if you look at the bible god is a bit of a jerk)

we all have the right to live and make our own decisions why else would we exist?

[Jerk Wanker]

Re: hello im jack Henry Williams!

by the way im agnostic not atheist there is a massive difference!

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: hello im jack Henry Williams!

a god wouldn't make us just to torture us

Oh yes He would.

Prov 16:4 The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

The Bible compares God to a potter who makes some vessels for the sole purpose of destruction.

Rom 9:19-22
19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

we all have the right to live and make our own decisions why else would we exist?

Righteous or unrighteous, we exist to bring glory to God.

Rev 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

[Didymus Much]

Re: hello im jack Henry Williams!

...a god wouldn't make us just to torture us...

How would you know?

...(if you look at the bible god is a bit of a jerk)...

Tell us something we don't know.

Exodus 34:14 "For thou shalt worship no other god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:"

Who names themself Jealous?

...we all have the right to live and make our own decisions...

And the rest of us have to pay for the prisons to keep people like you in.

...why else would we exist?

Ok, what's your proof we're not mere playthings of a vengeful, cruel, spiteful, malevolent, f***ing A-hole of a God?

[Thomas Taylor]

Re: hello im jack Henry Williams!

by the way im agnostic not atheist there is a massive difference!

G'day me little abo boomerang chucker, there is absolutely no difference in the Eyes of God.

Either way you're on the road to an eternity of pain at the hands of satan and his many demons.

[ExGay Alex]

Re: hello im jack Henry Williams!

by the way im agnostic not atheist there is a massive difference!

I think when agnostics are baking in Hell at 1 million degrees and being sodomized be Satan's barbed tallywacker, and the atheists are frying at 2 million degrees and being DP-ed by 2 demons, the fact that the atheists are tortured 100% more might represent a "massive difference," but it's a difference that will be irrelevant under the curcumstances.

[Mark L. Snyde, PhD]

Re: hello im jack Henry Williams!

by the way im agnostic not atheist there is a massive difference!

An agnostic is just an atheist that doesn't have the stones to admit it.