[Elmer G. White]

Re: Only Sluts Get Raped! (1st Timothy 2:9)

1 Timothy 2:9New International Version (NIV)

9 I also want the women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, adorning themselves, not with elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes

I don't know where you get your facts from.

Facts MOST CERTAINLY do not come from the false Christian document of NIV. Facts come from the KJV and the corresponding Textus receptus.

wsautwV kai tas gunaikaV en katastolh kosmiw meta aidouV kai swfrosunhV kosmein eautaV mh en plegmasin h crusw h margaritaiV h imatismw polutelei

And the KJV is as follows:
In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

You can se the differences, e.g., shamefacedness (aidouV; it is a 3rd decl. genitive, the nominative would be αιδως, fem.*) - decency in NIV. The KJV word describes admirably the women's part in the world. SHAME upon the original SIN, the Fall (Genesis 2-3, whole Chapters, please). That is FACT, purified and tested! You can easily find more material to study the other divergences (propriety, etc.) from the text dictated by GOD!

Psalms 12:6 - The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

GLORY!



TO JESUS!

Yours in Christ,

Elmer

*There are, certainly, other dictionary entries for the word. None of them (a sense of shame or honour, modesty, bashfulness, reverence, regard for others, respect) include "decency" in reliable sources nor are possible in the CONTEXT. Thus, the NIV LIES. It is EVIL. Probably Satan supervised this "translation" himself!

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Only Sluts Get Raped! (1st Timothy 2:9)

The modernist also neglects that husbands should evoke fear. And being frightened of one's husband is critical, because it is a witness to others perhaps even to the husband himself.

I PETER 3
1-2 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; while they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear.
KJV .. look up

God chose those words for a reason. FEAR and SUBJECTION is God's standard for marriage. Libertarians will have other standards such as time-share arrangements or frolickings on mescaline or marrying a frog, or 90 frogs, like the sky's the limit for them because they have rejected Jesus and His Perfect Standard of fear and subjugation get sloughed off as irrelevant.

It is not irrelevant. It is CRITICAL ONE and the future of humanity depends on following the perfect model not only for marriage but as an example to others, particularly as an example to children.

[IJustWantSodomy]

Re: Only Sluts Get Raped! (1st Timothy 2:9)

Facts MOST CERTAINLY do not come from the false Christian document of NIV. Facts come from the KJV and the corresponding Textus receptus.

wsautwV kai tas gunaikaV en katastolh kosmiw meta aidouV kai swfrosunhV kosmein eautaV mh en plegmasin h crusw h margaritaiV h imatismw polutelei

And the KJV is as follows:
In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

You can se the differences, e.g., shamefacedness (aidouV; it is a 3rd decl. genitive, the nominative would be αιδως, fem.*) - decency in NIV. The KJV word describes admirably the women's part in the world. SHAME upon the original SIN, the Fall (Genesis 2-3, whole Chapters, please). That is FACT, purified and tested! You can easily find more material to study the other divergences (propriety, etc.) from the text dictated by GOD!

Psalms 12:6 - The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

GLORY!



TO JESUS!

Yours in Christ,

Elmer

*There are, certainly, other dictionary entries for the word. None of them (a sense of shame or honour, modesty, bashfulness, reverence, regard for others, respect) include "decency" in reliable sources nor are possible in the CONTEXT. Thus, the NIV LIES. It is EVIL. Probably Satan supervised this "translation" himself!

And that somehow proves your idea that only sluts get raped even if it's just any random woman on the street who some stranger forced 100% completely?

[Des]

Re: Only Sluts Get Raped! (1st Timothy 2:9)

And that somehow proves your idea that only sluts get raped even if it's just any random woman on the street who some stranger forced 100% completely?

A random woman on the street and a slut are pretty much synonymous. Why isn't the random woman being escorted by her father or husband who would subsequently protect her? Well, she would be escorted if she were a Godly woman. That she is shamelessly roaming the streets (doubtless in search of sin, debauchery, and unprotected sex with a dozen gang bangers while dressed in provocative attire that exposes throat, wrists, ankles, and half her calves) proves her a slut.

[IJustWantSodomy]

Re: Only Sluts Get Raped! (1st Timothy 2:9)

A random woman on the street and a slut are pretty much synonymous. Why isn't the random woman being escorted by her father or husband who would subsequently protect her? Well, she would be escorted if she were a Godly woman. That she is shamelessly roaming the streets (doubtless in search of sin, debauchery, and unprotected sex with a dozen gang bangers while dressed in provocative attire that exposes throat, wrists, ankles, and half her calves) proves her a slut.

She could be living alone and not be married yet.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Only Sluts Get Raped! (1st Timothy 2:9)

She could be living alone and not be married yet.

Then Des' reasoning applies just as well.

[Steph Leia]

Re: Only Sluts Get Raped! (1st Timothy 2:9)

She could be living alone and not be married yet.

Why would she be living alone? I feel very sorry for our theoretical woman, for having no man to tell her what to do. It is even sadder to think that the are real life women who are in this horrible situation right now. If she wasn't married, she should still have a father, and if her father had already left to join Him, she would have brothers. If she had absolutely NO male in her near family, she would then have male cousins, or he uncle. There is not going to be a case where a woman has no males who are capable of looking after her. Hope this helped

[IJustWantSodomy]

Re: Only Sluts Get Raped! (1st Timothy 2:9)

Why would she be living alone? I feel very sorry for our theoretical woman, for having no man to tell her what to do. It is even sadder to think that the are real life women who are in this horrible situation right now. If she wasn't married, she should still have a father, and if her father had already left to join Him, she would have brothers. If she had absolutely NO male in her near family, she would then have male cousins, or he uncle. There is not going to be a case where a woman has no males who are capable of looking after her. Hope this helped

Because the women who actually exist aren't the ones in your weird fantasies.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Only Sluts Get Raped! (1st Timothy 2:9)

Because the women who actually exist aren't the ones in your weird fantasies.

Proof?

[IJustWantSodomy]

Re: Only Sluts Get Raped! (1st Timothy 2:9)

Proof?

Go outside and talk to any woman.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Only Sluts Get Raped! (1st Timothy 2:9)

Go outside and talk to any woman.

Friend,

Didymus is our court ordered resident atheist - doubtlessly he thinks all women have tallywackers or something equally hideous.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Only Sluts Get Raped! (1st Timothy 2:9)

Go outside and talk to any woman.

If I go outside and find a woman to talk to, that's only proof that she's not a True Christian(tm), otherwise she would be escorted by a guardian (husband, brother, father, Pastor, etc.) who would not let me talk to her (due to my unsaved heathen status).

Therefore, Des' point ("A random woman on the street and a slut are pretty much synonymous.") still stands.

Logic isn't your strong suit, is it?

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Only Sluts Get Raped! (1st Timothy 2:9)

If I go outside and find a woman to talk to, that's only proof that she's not a True Christian™, otherwise she would be escorted by a guardian (husband, brother, father, Pastor, etc.) who would not let me talk to her (due to my unsaved heathen status).

Therefore, Des' point ("A random woman on the street and a slut are pretty much synonymous.") still stands.

Logic isn't your strong suit, is it?

Logically anyone women who isn't a TRUE Christian(tm) is a slutty slut.

FACT: No TRUE Christian(tm) woman has EVER been raped.

EVER.

[IJustWantSodomy]

Re: Only Sluts Get Raped! (1st Timothy 2:9)

If I go outside and find a woman to talk to, that's only proof that she's not a True Christian™, otherwise she would be escorted by a guardian (husband, brother, father, Pastor, etc.) who would not let me talk to her (due to my unsaved heathen status).

Therefore, Des' point ("A random woman on the street and a slut are pretty much synonymous.") still stands.

Logic isn't your strong suit, is it?

What a coincidence I had the same question.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Only Sluts Get Raped! (1st Timothy 2:9)

What a coincidence I had the same question.

Why are you here?