[Redeemed Papist]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SWEDEN!

I was merely using a describing word. I wasn't CALLING Him that. To describe one, is not the same thing as calling one the same.

Still, you didn't answer the question. If you like, you may ignore those two words, but I'd still like an answer to that question.

God is exactly who He is in the Bible.

The Bible in no way contradicts itself and this idea of the God of the New Testament as some fluffy bunnykins who loves everyone is tradition by priests, not scripture.

Try actually reading the Bible instead of looking on web sites and cherry picking and you'll see why, in context, the Bible clearly states that only True Christians will be saved.

[Pissy man]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SWEDEN!

Oh, I've read the Bible alright. I knew it from heart when I was a child, but I must confess I cant recite it from memory anymore. I know that God is God, right in what He does in every single way, regardless if one read the old or new Testiament, good and righteous and all that.
Still, it doesn't change this one simple fact;

You never answered my question.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SWEDEN!

You mean the crazy one where you say what's the difference between God and Satan?

I thought you were being rhetorical, it's such a dumb question.

Give an example where it's easy to confuse God and Satan from scripture, please. I don't know what you're on about.

[Pissy man]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SWEDEN!

Oh, yes, that's the question.
I'm not going to cite every passage in the Bible, if that's what you're asking me. It's going to be a *massive* wall of text if I do that. Neither am I going to type down every versenumber either, it's going to take me all day.

What I will do, however, is tell you what I mean. For instance, when Moses were in Egypt, God sent a few.. "incidents". I am referring to the Flood, too. I am talking about every single time God punished someone, fooled someone (for instance when God almost fooled Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac), had someone killed (as when He sent His angel to kill the first born sons) or even scared the crap out of anyone (I guess the burning bush would scare a lot of people).

As I said, I'm not saying that God is wrong in His doing at anytime. But what differs His actions from Satans? If Satain would have done anything like the sorts of what God has done, it is per definition an evil act, right?

Take it as a rhetorical question all you like, but if you cant even answer it, I guess I'll take it as an acknowledgement that you consider there's no difference between the two, that God and Satan is only two sides of the same coin.
After all, you promised me that you wouldn't lie about God to make me embrace Him, did you not?

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SWEDEN!

When you can do better than trotting out some half-baked nonsense you read on an atheist site and have something sensible to say I'll bother with you again.

God can punish who He wants when He wants. He's God. Maybe you should take heed of that instead of trying to hate God because He's not nice.

[Pissy man]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SWEDEN!

That I've read on an atheist site? Excuse me? Since when did the Bible become "an atheist site"?

But ok, you didn't lie to me about God. You just didn't know enough to be able to answer me. I suggest you better read up on the matter. But it's ok, you're only human.

And I never said God couldn't punish anyone He wanted to punish. I even said that God was right in everything He did, didn't I? And whoever said I hated God? It's not to hate God if you ask questions, is it? Now you're just blaming me for not understanding my questions, as if it's my fault. What did Billy Bob say about "blaming others"?

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SWEDEN!

What are you even on about? You think we haven't seen someone who read the Skeptic's Annotated Bible or somesuch before and thought they had the key to hating God?

Genesis 6:13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

Genesis 7:4 For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.

God puts His name to that, sonny. How can you get Him mixed up with Satan? I don't get it.

[Pissy man]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SWEDEN!

What are you even on about? You think we haven't seen someone who read the Skeptic's Annotated Bible or somesuch before and thought they had the key to hating God?

Genesis 6:13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

Genesis 7:4 For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.

God puts His name to that, sonny. How can you get Him mixed up with Satan? I don't get it.

To be honest, I've never even heard of "Skeptic's annotated bible" before you mentioned it. And as I said, I dont hate God. Just because I asked about Him doesn't make me hate Him. I'm going to be honest again; I dont believe in God. But that also makes me unable to hate Him, I dont hate what I dont believe in.
And I didn't "get Him mixed up with Satan". I asked you what the difference between them was. But perhaps if I rephrase my question, you'll understand it better:

"What is it that makes Gods behaviour any different from Satans behaviour? If the behaviour is the same, or similar, what is the difference between them, other than God being a god?"

You're quoting the genesis, but it still doesn't answer my question. It's as if you dont know.

[candyfreak]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SWEDEN!

Okey. So first of all, how stupid can one get? All those things that was mentioned in the OP is completely bullshit (no offence).
Secondly, swedes are not eskimo's, neither have they ever been.
Thirdly, swedes do not live in iglo's as some have mentioned in this thread.
Fourthly, Sweden is a great country, just because you are homophobic doesnt mean that you get to blame your own flaws on Sweden.
Fifthly, i personaly dont believe in any god, though that does not give you any reason to flame on Sweden. You got a hell of alot more problems there in the US then we have over here in Sweden...
Sixtly, from the comment's i've read here so far it sounds as if you're planning on doing some jihad against Sweden, just for the fact that one priest got captured by the police.. Like come on for fuck sake... Believe in you're god, i don't really care, though i HIGHLY doubt that he'd want you to fight against innocent people, what would Jesus do? Think back, he forgave Judas for betraying him, he didn't hold any grudge against him at all. So if you now believe that we swedes have done something bad, then do like Jesus.. (Yes i have had a priest in my school preaching about the bible when i were like 8, so i know some stuff from the bible..)

(Oh and yea, i know that i didn't make an introduction, though i wont stay on here long enough for that to make any difference anyways..)

Lastly, i only have one thing left to say.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYl1e...=1&playnext=72

(Oh, and i do not hate USA, i just hate when you get pissed of at Sweden for no apparent reason.. And sorry for any misspells, im quite drunk..)

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SWEDEN!

"What is it that makes Gods behaviour any different from Satans behaviour? If the behaviour is the same, or similar, what is the difference between them, other than God being a god?"

Are you trying to get me to damn myself? You want a bedmate in Hell?

Deuteronomy 32:4 He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.

You want me to put myself before God and judge His works? Are you insane? No wonder God hates your silly Swiss nation!

[Pissy man]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SWEDEN!

I am not trying to get you to damn yourself. I was, however, asking for you to explain to me what the difference is. After all, you said you wasn't going to lie about God to me.

That you can explain the difference tells me one thing. You dont know.
The fact that you insinuate that, by answering the question, you're "damning yourself", tells me another thing. The answer is the same thing as blaspheme about God. Most likely saying something about God that isn't really positive about Him. Quite possibly something really negative instead.

When I think about it some more, I do begin to get the feeling that by NOT answering my question, you ARE damning yourself. It's the same as saying "oh, God and Satan is one and the same".
Care to answer me now?

Just to clarify; Not even I am putting myself before God and make judgements on His actions. What I am doing, is asking you to clear one thing out. Quite possibly, I am also putting myself before you, but I'm not judging you either.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SWEDEN!

I am not trying to get you to damn yourself. I was, however, asking for you to explain to me what the difference is. After all, you said you wasn't going to lie about God to me.

That you can explain the difference tells me one thing. You dont know.
The fact that you insinuate that, by answering the question, you're "damning yourself", tells me another thing. The answer is the same thing as blaspheme about God. Most likely saying something about God that isn't really positive about Him. Quite possibly something really negative instead.

When I think about it some more, I do begin to get the feeling that by NOT answering my question, you ARE damning yourself. It's the same as saying "oh, God and Satan is one and the same".
Care to answer me now?

Just to clarify; Not even I am putting myself before God and make judgements on His actions. What I am doing, is asking you to clear one thing out. Quite possibly, I am also putting myself before you, but I'm not judging you either.

If this sort of fallacy is what passes for reason in your head then it's small wonder you worship monkeys. I can't answer your question because it makes no sense. God's actions are not Satan's actions because God did God's actions and so on. What's to explain?

If you're going to try to judge God from on your high horse and say that in your opinion because what God did wasn't nice it's therefore evil then you're talking nonsense. I already gave you scripture that covers that. God is perfect.

I will fearlessly show you time after time when God isn't nice by secular standards. Does that mean He is wrong? Impossible!

2 Peter 2:6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;

God did that for a clearly stated reason which you seem to be happy to ignore with your unbelief. You really are dancing around trying to make God hate you and I guess you will only truly find out when you are in Hell.

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SWEDEN!

So first of all, how stupid can one get?

I'm not sure what exact saturation point of stupidity is, but the swiss we get here must be pretty damn close.

[candyfreak]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SWEDEN!

then it's small wonder you worship monkeys.

Got any proof whatsoever on that swedes worship monkeys? From what other americans in this thread has written we swedes are all atheists. So i dont see how we can worship monkeys when we don't believe in any higher power..

I'm not sure what exact saturation point of stupidity is, but the swiss we get here must be pretty damn close.

Well, as far as i've seen there haven't been a single swiss on here at all, so you're comment fails..

Besides, do anyone of you actually have ANY proof on that god exists? If he does exist, then how come no1 saw him sitting on any cloud in the sky from the spaceships when they entered space?

[Pissy man]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SWEDEN!

I'm dumbstruck by your stupidity.

When did I ever say God did wrong? I even stated clearly that I know God is perfect and God has every right to do what he does.

You say that I think God did wrong by secular standards, which is a lie. I have stated that God does not do anything wrong.
You also say that I said that God did Satans actions and vice versa, which ALSO is a lie; I did ask what the difference between the twos action is.

When God does something to fool a human, it is Gods right to do so. But how is that any different from when Satan fools humans?
When God kills humans, it is Gods right to do so. But how is that any different from when Satan does it?

That question is still unanswered, and it still only tells me one thing; You dont know. And if you do answer, it is blasphemous, since the answer IS blasphemous.

And no, I dont worship monkeys any more than I worship coocoo-clocks.

Alphonse Alban, one might wonder how stupid indeed. Since not even post after post can make you understand there is no Swiss people in here, but Swedes. It's a huge difference in nationality.