[GaleWhoring the Boring (On Moderation)]

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The problem with Romish wisdom is that it's not true. God always condemns the sinner.

JOHN 3 .KJV . look up
19 [God speaking] And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

The phrase actually came from St. Augustine, and as matter of fact, there is great universal truth spanning between denominations.


Jude 23
Rescue others by snatching them from the flames of judgment. Show mercy to still others, but do so with great caution, hating the sins that contaminate their lives.

The first line is particularly inspiring, given the sad reality that many Christians today use their judgement to reject others. We are called upon to be rescuers, where hate lurks and to use ourselves effectively as a sanctuary, a temple.

[MitzaLizalor]

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I don't see how Augustine changes God's perspective. God condemns the sin which contaminates lives sure, we know that. He also condemns the lives, casting them into everlasting torment. Hating the sin is just one part of God's order. Without order the universe would collapse.

[GaleWhoring the Boring (On Moderation)]

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I don't see how Augustine changes God's perspective. God condemns the sin which contaminates lives sure, we know that. He also condemns the lives, casting them into everlasting torment. Hating the sin is just one part of God's order. Without order the universe would collapse.

It doesn't. Augustine was just setting the framework. Though yes, it would seem Hell awaits those truly wicked, we are given many opportunities to turn to Jesus.

[MitzaLizalor]

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I thought God set the framework.

..we are given many opportunities to turn to Jesus.

Many people reject that offer. Would you say there was a reason for that?

[GaleWhoring the Boring (On Moderation)]

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I thought God set the framework.Many people reject that offer. Would you say there was a reason for that?

Cor, for what? Rejecting or the offer itself?

[Roland]

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Cor, for what? Rejecting or the offer itself?

You still haven´t offered your recipe. People want to know how you´d make this edible:

[MitzaLizalor]

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It doesn't. Augustine was just setting the framework. Though yes, it would seem Hell awaits those truly wicked, we are given many opportunities to turn to Jesus.

Good. We've established that God sets the framework and all that's left to decide is whether His foreknowledge applies to the rejection of Jesus by heathens or the rejection of His offer by heathens. It's a nice distinction, very narrow but worth considering.

ROMANS 8 .KJV . context
29 Whom [God] did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

Yes, The Bible is explicit, Hell awaits the truly wicked. But who is given many opportunities to turn to Jesus? Did the Eskimo in 483 have this opportunity? Or moving into the 9th century, did Charlemagne get this opportunity? How about an Australian aborigine in 1066? Or a 12th century Japanese? If these were foreknown by God and predestined for conformation to the image of Jesus why was Jesus not Japanese or Aboriginal or Eskimo or a Frank? Clearly from their behaviour none of these knew Jesus at any time.

To move along now I'd be interested how you identify an opportunity to turn to Jesus when it is presented.

[GaleWhoring the Boring (On Moderation)]

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Good. We've established that God sets the framework and all that's left to decide is whether His foreknowledge applies to the rejection of Jesus by heathens or the rejection of His offer by heathens. It's a nice distinction, very narrow but worth considering.

ROMANS 8 .KJV . context
29 Whom [God] did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

Yes, The Bible is explicit, Hell awaits the truly wicked. But who is given many opportunities to turn to Jesus? Did the Eskimo in 483 have this opportunity? Or moving into the 9th century, did Charlemagne get this opportunity? How about an Australian aborigine in 1066? Or a 12th century Japanese? If these were foreknown by God and predestined for conformation to the image of Jesus why was Jesus not Japanese or Aboriginal or Eskimo or a Frank? Clearly from their behaviour none of these knew Jesus at any time.

To move along now I'd be interested how you identify an opportunity to turn to Jesus when it is presented.

There's a theory of reincarnation, and why maybe the truely wicked will go to Hell, all those groups you listed just might be reborn until they find God, somehow.

I found Jesus through my Catholic upbringing, though you don't seem to be interested in that.

[GaleWhoring the Boring (On Moderation)]

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You still haven´t offered your recipe. People want to know how you´d make this edible:

I have no experience preparing seal. I never eaten seal. I thought that was cuisine from your culture?

[MitzaLizalor]

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There's a theory of reincarnation, and why maybe the truely wicked will go to Hell, all those groups you listed just might be reborn until they find God, somehow. I found Jesus through my Catholic upbringing, though you don't seem to be interested in that.

.. They really don't want you reading that Bible do they.

HEBREWS 9 .KJV . context
27 it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

[GaleWhoring the Boring (On Moderation)]

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My scope of thinking is rich with many considerations and possibilities. Why limit myself?

[Roland]

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I have no experience preparing seal. I never eaten seal. I thought that was cuisine from your culture?

Hi Gale,

You were the one professing your fondness of this kind of meat:

Mmm, seal. God, I'm hungry. I want some meat!

I merely ask you to own up.

[Romeo Rovagnati]

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And the supporting Scripture is...?

I think that Ms. Whoring supporting Scripture is the words of Gandhi. But she doesn't know that Gandhi was a racist pervert Hindu. Here's what he said about the jews:


To punish him, God sent an Hindu named Naturam Godse, who sent him in hell.

However, Ghandi had a chance of salvation because he believed in Jesus, even if he did not reject Shiva. So, he may have entered in Heaven if people prayed for him long enough.

[Basilissa]

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I think that Ms. Whoring supporting Scripture is the words of Gandhi. But she doesn't know that Gandhi was a racist pervert Hindu. Here's what he said about the jews:


To punish him, God sent an Hindu named Naturam Godse, who sent him in hell.

However, Ghandi had a chance of salvation because he believed in Jesus, even if he did not reject Shiva. So, he may have entered in Heaven if people prayed for him long enough.

Well, Gandhi doesn't count, and the thought that he might be going to Heaven is just preposterous! What next, are you going to tell me atheists can go to Heaven, too?

Oh wait -- your pooped Frances already said that.

I guess he stopped reading his Bible at John 3:16... and missed this:

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

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Well, Gandhi doesn't count, and the thought that he might be going to Heaven is just preposterous! What next, are you going to tell me atheists can go to Heaven, too?

Oh wait -- your pooped Frances already said that.

I guess he stopped reading his Bible at John 3:16... and missed this:

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Nathuram Godse, a hero to some hindaloos, assassinated Ghandi for the alleged reason that he felt he was treating the mooselimbs too well. Of course this was at a time when India was shipping all the mooselimbs to Pakistan because they didn't play well with others - certainly a lesson for our time and our present problems with the "religion of peace". And who says you can't move 12 million people around, and even with all the violence only a few million died.