[Mary Thompson]

Re: A question about adoption

The way I read "visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children,and upon the children’s children, unto the third and to the fourth generation. " is that every generation descended from her husband (not necessarily from her) will go to Hell. Her husband is clearly a sinner, to have been afflicted with cryptorchidism and that is the punishment that will be visited on his descendants.

That is exactly as to what I was referring to. And I am sure Sister Eva does her best to be Godly. So to avoid confusion in my post, I meant to say descended from her husband, but that Sister Eva would never leave her husband so it is descended from her as well.
YiC
Mary Thompson.

[James Hutchins]

Re: A question about adoption

I can see you women need a mans perspective.

Any child that is not natural born is a bastard. Everyone hates a bastard, they cannot help it.
Hebrews 12:8

King James Version (KJV)

8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

Now, I have nothing against providing a child with a roof and three meals, provided the child minds Jesus and does its' chores. I beleive there are a few dozen of tese sorts of kids scampering around the plantation. I often have picked them up during my cross country travels, finding them abandoned in shopping carts, in playgrounds on parks and outside secular schools. Once I have spent quality time with them and ensured they know that God is always watching them and that I am a True Christians(tm), through and through, I let them to be with the other unwanted children. But I'd never consider any of this children to be mine. That is akin to lying to Jesus.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: A question about adoption

I can see you women need a mans perspective.

Any child that is not natural born is a bastard. Everyone hates a bastard, they cannot help it.
Hebrews 12:8

King James Version (KJV)

8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

I guess they can be generation number one before their offspring finally get to go to Heaven. That's at least something.

Deuteronomy 23:2
A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

[Attila's Wife]

Re: A question about adoption

Now, I have nothing against providing a child with a roof and three meals, provided the child minds Jesus and does its' chores. I beleive there are a few dozen of tese sorts of kids scampering around the plantation. I often have picked them up during my cross country travels, finding them abandoned in shopping carts, in playgrounds on parks and outside secular schools. Once I have spent quality time with them and ensured they know that God is always watching them and that I am a True Christians™, through and through, I let them to be with the other unwanted children. But I'd never consider any of this children to be mine. That is akin to lying to Jesus.

Thank you for clearing this up, Brother. So it's better than okay, it's positively TrueChristian(TM) behavior, to take unwanted children into your home (or at least, on to your property) and train them up to observe the ways of our Beloved Lord, as long as you never claim them as your own?

That makes a lot of sense in this world as well as for the next. After all, you may do the best you can for one of these abandoned kids and still they may turn out wrong, from bad blood. I'm sure Eva would not want to have the neighbors think a kid that turned out bad was any relation of hers.

Eva, I was wondering what sort of job your husband does. Because if it is something dangerous, God might yet send a fortuitous accident which would enable you to remarry before it is too late.

I will pray for you, dear.
YiC
AW

[Eva_Christensen]

Re: A question about adoption

Well, I have been praying since yesterday (I of course took a break making dinner), And now, reading your words, it consoles me a bit that there perhaps is a place for me, in heaven still (provided I conceive, obviously).

Though It does trouble me a tad, that my husband and perhaps my future children (to the fourth generation) will be damned to eternal suffering in hell, but I cannot question the way of the Lord!

What my husband has done to deserve the wrath of the Lord, I won't dare to second guess about

I guess I must just keep calm, pray and carry on!

Thank you for clearing this up, Brother. So it's better than okay, it's positively TrueChristian™ behavior, to take unwanted children into your home (or at least, on to your property) and train them up to observe the ways of our Beloved Lord, as long as you never claim them as your own?

I was just about to say, something like the same. What a very self-sacrificing thing to do! I am sure those little ones, are very grateful!

Eva, I was wondering what sort of job your husband does. Because if it is something dangerous, God might yet send a fortuitous accident which would enable you to remarry before it is too late.

I will pray for you, dear.
YiC
AW

Thank you dear Sister!

I am afraid my husband works in accounting (he is not a joo!), so I can hardly imagine any accidents, seriuos enough, happening there
But thank you for trying to console me!

YiC
Eva

[Attila's Wife]

Re: A question about adoption

I am afraid my husband works in accounting (he is not a joo!), so I can hardly imagine any accidents, seriuos enough, happening there
But thank you for trying to console me!

Well.... many years ago a friend of mine was a lawyer in a very respectable firm in the City of London (the financial district) and one of his clients came into the office for a meeting. He was shouting some crazy stuff about the Inland Revenue and opened his briefcase to get out some papers and revealed an AXE! Fortunately for my friend, it was the tax man who was the intended victim and they were able to call the men in white coats.

But, as this story illustrates, anything can happen. Not that anyone here would wish anything bad to happen to your dear husband, of course.

Good luck, dear.

[James Hutchins]

Re: A question about adoption

Thank you for clearing this up, Brother. So it's better than okay, it's positively TrueChristian™ behavior, to take unwanted children into your home (or at least, on to your property) and train them up to observe the ways of our Beloved Lord, as long as you never claim them as your own?

That makes a lot of sense in this world as well as for the next. After all, you may do the best you can for one of these abandoned kids and still they may turn out wrong, from bad blood. I'm sure Eva would not want to have the neighbors think a kid that turned out bad was any relation of hers.

Eva, I was wondering what sort of job your husband does. Because if it is something dangerous, God might yet send a fortuitous accident which would enable you to remarry before it is too late.

I will pray for you, dear.
YiC
AW

You can also put them on your tax forms and take a deduction.
Just never tell anyone that they are from your womb. Be crystal clear with anyone you meet that they are bastards. God loves honesty. If you do have children of your own, make sure your natural offspring know they have value unlike the bastards.
Make sure the bastards know how lucky they are to have a roof and meals. I have found if one does not do his chores or makes a mistake while doing them, witholding a few meals and making them sleep outside on the gravel driveway with just the KJV usually gets them to toe the line much better.

These shirts help make things clear to adults when there are a lot of kids around:

[Mother Of Seven]

Re: A question about adoption

So, it comes down to this:


While Eva and her husband may take in some bastards, Eva will still end up in Hell if she doesn't bear her own children. Eva's husband is doomed to Hell anyway. But the bastards may be Saved.


In the unlikely event that Eva bears children (conceived either naturally or through IVF, to her husband), she may go to Heaven, but her husband goes to Hell. The sons may well be cursed for up to 4 generations through being wounded in the stones and therefore will also be cursed. But the daughters will be able to be Saved.


If Eva's husband meets his end either naturally or unnaturally, and Eva remarries and bears her new husband some children, she and all her children can be Saved.


Which boils down to:
Eva's husband goes to Hell, regardless.
Eva can only be Saved through childbirth.
Eva's children can only be Saved if their father is not Eva's current husband.
If Eva dispatches her husband, she will go to Hell.
No one seriously cares about the fate of the bastards.


Therefore if Eva's husband has any self-respect, he would suicide, thereby releasing Eva to remarry. He's going to Hell anyway, so the sin of suicide wouldn't matter. But he has no self-respect because he should have told Eva's father that he was wounded in the stones before they married, and obviously he didn't. (Another reason why he is bound for Hell).

[James Hutchins]

Re: A question about adoption

Any woman who fails to carry a child in her womb is worthless in the all seeing Eyes of God. I cannot imagine feeling more worthless if the one critical responsibility I had in life and I failed at it. You can hire a cook, hire people to clean, but who are you going to get to bear you sons, a joo? (J/K)


I'll pray for Eva's husband to die a natural death, like in some sort of industrial accident. Does anyone know any of his co-workers in need of say, financial assistance?

I have to say, I find it reprehensible a man would not be honest with his wife regarding a lack of Man Seed(r).

[Mother Of Seven]

Re: A question about adoption

I think we should all pray that Eva's husband dies of testicular cancer as soon as possible.

[Mary Thompson]

Re: A question about adoption

Now, remember Sister, there are many ways your husband might naturally die. 1. An accident at work. 2. You're cleaning his gun and it accidently fires (This is what happened to Sister Daisy Mae to her former husband and now she's engaged to Pastor Ezekiel). 3. putting poison in his dinner by mistake. 4. A car accident. 5. Assassins paid from an unknown source to kill him. And many more.
Keep us posted on your situation, whether you get unlucky or lucky and your husband dies.