[Jedediah]

Re: Bill O'Reilly OWNS Atheist: "You can't explain the tides!"

You people make sick to be a Christian, you know that? You're all blinded by the light just like the Atheists are blinded by darkness.

Most things I've read in this thread are just the Radical Christians bumbling on and on and on about how it all works because God says it does. The Bible doesn't explain tides. The Bible doesn't explain heat. The Bible doesn't explain why there are other religions. The Bible doesn't explain why my neighbor lives next to me. It certainly doesn't explain why we all hate each other so much. It gives everyone who follows it's words exactly a REASON to hate each other. I'm sure you've all heard of Westboro Baptist Church. They mock people who give their lives to defend their un-helpful asses. Can't any of you people learn toleration? I'm a devout Christian and I have atheist friends, jewish friends, muslim friends, you name it. Two of my sisters are Atheist and the other agnostic.

Now, pray tell, do you all honestly believe that God just dropped water onto Earth? Does that explain why there are tides? Certainly not. The "Bathtub Theory" is obviously a load of bull. Ever spill water onto a hardwood floor? It spreads everywhere. Why isn't there just water hanging around outside the ocean, then? Lakes? No, people. Lakes are 25 feet deep. Some are over a mile deep. Spill a pale of water on the beach. The water goes down about 1 inch. The hypothesis would then be "If you drop 25,000,000 pales of water onto the beach then the indent would 25,000,000 inches deep." That's over sand, kiddo. Dump a pale of water in a forest. The soil absorbs it and the weight of the water barely pushes the ground down a millimeter.

Earth being flat. No no. You would really have to be an idiot or from before the 1400s. Ever heard of Ferdinand Magellan? He was captain of the first crew to circumnavigate the world (despite him dying in the Philippines). Those inventions called "Airplanes" are pretty swell, aren't they? Why, going from NYC to Japan, and then Japan to NYC in one way is certainly easy and quite possible, isn't it?

The Sun being 500 miles away from Earth. If you believe it, then may God have mercy on your soul. You might as well be damned for stupidity. Are you aware that London is 3471 miles away from NYC? Check a map if you don't believe me. No no, go ahead, i'm waiting....you done? Now, think of the distance between Detroit and NYC. That's 488 miles on land, just 12 miles shy of 500. Look up at the sky. Can you believe that the distance from Earth to the Sun is 500 miles? I'd be astonished if the distance from Venus to Earth is 500 miles.

I'm not uneducated and i'm not Radical, but I do believe in God and the Christian Religion. All you Radicals follow blindly what you read in a book. Me? I have my own take on History, be it right or wrong. I believe God sets everything in motion, not creating everything. God created the non-manmade elements which bond together by themselves and which we use our Frontal Lobes to understand. Ever wonder why we work out so well? You know, the human race? I have. Thousands and thousands of lightyears away, there are Galaxies with probably other races of "animals". Those were God's "failed attempts". It takes time, effort, and practice to do something perfect, right? Even then, we the human race are significantly flawed to the point where we'll all try to kill each other over greed and whatnot.

Who knows, soon enough God'll make a new a galaxy with a better species? Like the other guy said, God/Allah/whatever is just a representation of hope. Oh no, I said Allah. Sure, I don't believe it, but others do. So, do what you want. Don't read this comment, flame me, mods/Admins ban me. I just wanted this point across. You radicals me sick and ashamed, though. I can honestly say I understand why our Church is mocked so often. People like you.

*waits for response*

If you don't follow every word of the Holy Bible (KJV 1611), then you are not a True Christian™. People who just call themselves "Christian" to impress other people will writhe in agony for all eternity in the lake of fire just the same as atheists, witches, warlocks, buddhists, idolaters, fornicators, the effeminate, extortioners, and muslims.

You follow a false Christ that exists only in your sorely deluded imagination.

Matthew 24:24
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

If you do not change your wicked ways, ignoring the instructions God left for us in the Bible, then when you die, your false hippy Christ will reveal his true demon form to you. He will laugh at you for being so foolish in the life God gave to you as to be led astray by false deceivers and their false doctrines. He will grab you by the ankle, spin you around, and hurtle you into a black abyss.

You will fall for what seems like days. Then you will feel it getting hotter, and you will see a small read dot off in the distance. As you fall closer to the red dot, your skin will blister from the heat, and the dot will grow larger. As you get closer and closer, you will see horned beasts flying above what appear to be the shapes of men and women thrashing around in a pool of lava. These are the souls of the damned, and you are on your way to joining them.

Revelation 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Your skin will burn off. You will writhe in agony and gnash your teeth so hard they shatter. Oh, how you will scream and scream and scream. But no one is here to help you. You have already rejected Jesus, and now it is too late. The flying demons will swoop down upon you, lift you out of the molten lava, and tear you to shreds. This is their way of welcoming you to hell. You will instantly regenerate, only to suffer these and other, indescribable torments for eternity.

Isaiah 66:24
And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

But there is Good News! You still have a chance to avoid this fate if you repent of your wickedness, ask Jesus into your heart, be washed in His Blood, and live by every word contained in the Bible (KJV 1611). We love you as only a True Christian™ could, and we want you to join us in Heaven. Won't you please reconsider the path you are on and walk in the ways of True Christianity™?

[TheRightGuy]

Re: Bill O'Reilly OWNS Atheist: "You can't explain the tides!"

"If you don't follow every word of the Holy Bible (KJV 1611), then you are not a True Christian™. People who just call themselves "Christian" to impress other people will writhe in agony for all eternity in the lake of fire just the same as atheists, witches, warlocks, buddhists, idolaters, fornicators, the effeminate, extortioners, and muslims. "

No, my good mate, I am right. I am a True Christian. It's not trademarked. It just simply is. You don't have to live through every word of the bible and that's that. It just takes faith. Heaven is no all-exclusive club for just the people who live by the bible. It's those who live by the Lord. I pray to God every night. And you know what? If He truly is all-forgiving and righteous, I think He'll see to it that I make it into Heaven. I'm not doing anything to impress anyone, either.

Also, fire is made up of gases not liquids. Therefore, you can't have a lake of fire.

[Nobar King]

Re: Bill O'Reilly OWNS Atheist: "You can't explain the tides!"

If He truly is all-forgiving and righteous, I think He'll see to it that I make it into Heaven.

He isn't, and you aren't. What makes you think that God forgives everything?

I'm not doing anything to impress anyone, either.

You're never going to get a wife with that attitude.

Also, fire is made up of gases not liquids. Therefore, you can't have a lake of fire.

Don't try to confuse me with your semantics, boy. Haven't you ever seen a volcano?

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Bill O'Reilly OWNS Atheist: "You can't explain the tides!"

Okay, I get it. You're one of those self-proclaimed "Christians" that don't even bother to follow most of the Bible. It doesn't make any sense because the Bible is the Word of God, yet you pick and choose a couple verses that you agree with and ignore the rest. If I may ask: Can you give me five reasons why you would consider yourself a Christian? What makes you a Christian, and not an agnostic/atheist for example?

But, I will address some of your points which are contrary to the Bible.

Can't any of you people learn toleration? I'm a devout Christian and I have atheist friends, jewish friends, muslim friends, you name it. Two of my sisters are Atheist and the other agnostic.

Where does it say in the Bible to tolerate unbelievers? Where does it say we should associate with them? Because the Bible says the opposite.

1st Corinthians 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

2nd Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

1st Corinthians 10:20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.

I'm not uneducated and i'm not Radical, but I do believe in God and the Christian Religion. All you Radicals follow blindly what you read in a book.

So the Bible is just a "book". Yet, you call yourself a Christian? The Christian Religion is the Bible. We usually get that tired argument from atheists, but unlike them, you seem very confused with your self-identity.

Me? I have my own take on History, be it right or wrong. I believe God sets everything in motion, not creating everything. God created the non-manmade elements which bond together by themselves and which we use our Frontal Lobes to understand. Ever wonder why we work out so well? You know, the human race? I have. Thousands and thousands of lightyears away, there are Galaxies with probably other races of "animals". Those were God's "failed attempts". It takes time, effort, and practice to do something perfect, right? Even then, we the human race are significantly flawed to the point where we'll all try to kill each other over greed and whatnot.

That is not in the Bible. "Failed attempts"? Really? So God is imperfect?

No, my good mate, I am right. I am a True Christian. It's not trademarked. It just simply is. You don't have to live through every word of the bible and that's that. It just takes faith.

Actually you do have to follow all of the Bible.

2nd Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

2nd Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

Matthew 4:4 Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

See, a real person who has faith will follow all of the Bible. Their faith in God is so strong, they follow His commandments. You on the other hand do not have faith. Faith is more than just saying "I'm a Christian", it's actually being a Christian. This piece of Scripture was written especially for people like you...(enlarged to make a point)

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

If you can't understand the archaic English, Jesus is saying "Not everyone who calls me Lord will enter Heaven, but only the ones that follow my teachings." In other words, people like you who call yourselves Christians but don't follow Jesus.

Heaven is no all-exclusive club for just the people who live by the bible. It's those who live by the Lord.

Living by the Bible is living by the Lord. You know, the "book" where the Lord tells us how to live?

I pray to God every night. And you know what? If He truly is all-forgiving and righteous, I think He'll see to it that I make it into Heaven. I'm not doing anything to impress anyone, either.

He only forgives those who accept Christ as their savior, which you most certainly have not.

For a "Christian" you sure have a strong hatred of the Bible. Don't you realize how silly this is? You're an atheist, admit it. You're in denial, but you're an atheist. You can't believe in Christ and disbelieve the Bible at the same time because everything about Christ comes from the Bible. It makes as much sense as a person saying "The Star Wars movies are complete fiction and I don't believe in it, but I do believe Luke Skywalker is a real person."

[Jedediah]

Re: Bill O'Reilly OWNS Atheist: "You can't explain the tides!"

No, my good mate, I am right. I am a True Christian. It's not trademarked. It just simply is. You don't have to live through every word of the bible and that's that. It just takes faith. Heaven is no all-exclusive club for just the people who live by the bible. It's those who live by the Lord. I pray to God every night. And you know what? If He truly is all-forgiving and righteous, I think He'll see to it that I make it into Heaven. I'm not doing anything to impress anyone, either.

Also, fire is made up of gases not liquids. Therefore, you can't have a lake of fire.

Can you back a single word of your vain babbling up with Scripture?

Please do not falsely refer to yourself as a Christian. You will make us look bad. God left explicit instructions for us that we are to follow His Word to the letter.

Deuteronomy 12:32
What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

Matthew 4:4
Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.


In regard to your assertion that "it just takes is faith", I refer you to the second chapter of the Book of James.

James 2
10For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
...
14What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
...
17Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
...
20But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
23And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
24Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
25Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
26For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

As I told you before, you follow a false God. You pray to a false Christ that has no basis in the Holy Bible and exists only in your sorely deluded imagination. What is "living by the LORD" if not living by the Instructions that He left for us? Tell me, boy... What place does the Word of God have in your idea of what it means to be a Christian? Or do you just make it up as you go along?

As for the lake of fire, God tells us that false christians like yourself shall have your part in it! Who are you, vain little man, to reject the Word of God?

By your dismissal of the Holy Book which is the basis of the religion you falsely proclaim as your own and by your hateful words, it is clear that your name shall not be found in the book of life.

Revelation 20:10
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

[Gabriel Reproba]

Re: Bill O'Reilly OWNS Atheist: "You can't explain the tides!"

No, my good mate, I am right. I am a True Christian. It's not trademarked.

It is. We trademarked it. Do you know anything about trademark law?

Heaven is no all-exclusive club for just the people who live by the bible.

So you believe in Heaven. Where did that idea come form? Oh...that's right: The Bible. Why do you pick the parts you like and ignore the rest? You are less logical than an atheist. At least they can be internally logical. They either accept the whole of the Bible or reject the whole Bible (and burn in Hell.) Can you spell out the logic that leads you to your conclusion that heaven (an idea that comes form teh Bible) is real, but other parts of the Bible are not?

It's those who live by the Lord.

How do you know what the Lord wants? Oh, that's right...he told us. In the Bible!

I pray to God every night. And you know what? If He truly is all-forgiving and righteous, I think He'll see to it that I make it into Heaven.

You are quite arrogant. You think that God will "see to it" that you go into Heaven just because you judge yourself to be somewhere on the right side of good? Such gall! Why do you think this?

Also, he is not all-forgiving. You do know about the Unforgiveable Sin, right?

Also, fire is made up of gases not liquids. Therefore, you can't have a lake of fire.

1) You have heard of magma, right?

2) God could turn fire into liquid if he wanted to.

[Godsgrace]

Re: Bill O'Reilly OWNS Atheist: "You can't explain the tides!"

I'm late to this discussion, but I have to comment on how well O'Reilly did against that jew Silverman. The godless atheist didn't know ANYTHING. Did anyone else catch how he was talking about Thor on Mt Olympus? What a tool...

[JMoore]

Re: Bill O'Reilly OWNS Atheist: "You can't explain the tides!"

Oh wow.

I am a fully devoted Christian and proud to serve God, but some of you people are just plain lunatics. If you are arguing with an atheist that there is indeed a God, then the tides argument is paper thin and easily torn down.

As for Bill O'reilly, he's a lying scumbag. He belittles others and speaks condescendingly towards those that disagree with him. If he doesn't like what you have to say, you don't get a chance to finish, yet he can spew his idiotic opinion all he wants. He makes things up, takes others' words out of context, and consistently makes a fool of himself. If you watch him, it really makes ME wonder how you call yourself a 'Christian.'

[PetitionLady]

Re: Bill O'Reilly OWNS Atheist: "You can't explain the tides!"

Oh wow.

I am a fully devoted Christian and proud to serve God, but some of you people are just plain lunatics. If you are arguing with an atheist that there is indeed a God, then the tides argument is paper thin and easily torn down.

As for Bill O'reilly, he's a lying scumbag. He belittles others and speaks condescendingly towards those that disagree with him. If he doesn't like what you have to say, you don't get a chance to finish, yet he can spew his idiotic opinion all he wants. He makes things up, takes others' words out of context, and consistently makes a fool of himself. If you watch him, it really makes ME wonder how you call yourself a 'Christian.'

Yea also, when he that is a fool walketh by the way, his wisdom faileth him, and he saith to every one that he is a fool. Ecclesiastes 10:3

[Dawkings]

Re: Bill O'Reilly OWNS Atheist: "You can't explain the tides!"

And yet Richard Dawkins intimidated Bill O'Reilly when he was trying to use the very same argument. I think Bill dominated that particular interview due to the Athiest spokesman being quieter than Bill who is quiet out-spoken.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FARDDcdFaQ

[wait_what]

Re: Bill O'Reilly OWNS Atheist: "You can't explain the tides!"

So here is a questions for you guys...

if "God" causes the tides then how can we so accurately predict tide tables months and years ahead of time? Oh that's right because we know the rotational schedule of the Earth, Moon, and Sun and how their gravitatio*nal pull affects each other. And why then can't we then predict everything "God" causes.

Hebrews 13:8


8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.


Psalms 102:27

27 But thou art the same, and thy years shall have no end.

Malachi 3:6

6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

Just three examples of why we can "predict" the tides. God causes them, and as He tells us, He is one consistent Fellow!

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Bill O'Reilly OWNS Atheist: "You can't explain the tides!"

And yet Richard Dawkins intimidated Bill O'Reilly when he was trying to use the very same argument. I think Bill dominated that particular interview due to the Athiest spokesman being quieter than Bill who is quiet out-spoken.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FARDDcdFaQ

So that's how atheists think? Who ever screams the loudest is the smartest?

Dawkins is a loud mouthed idiot, even his fellow "scientists" think he's an arrogant ass.

[ThoomsAlmighty]

Re: Bill O'Reilly OWNS Atheist: "You can't explain the tides!"

1) You have heard of magma, right?

2) God could turn fire into liquid if he wanted to.

Magma isn't fire. Fire is characterised by a chemical change.

[wait_what]

Re: Bill O'Reilly OWNS Atheist: "You can't explain the tides!"

Magma isn't fire. Fire is characterised by a chemical change.

What about plasma then?

[Dawkings]

Re: Bill O'Reilly OWNS Atheist: "You can't explain the tides!"

So that's how atheists think? Who ever screams the loudest is the smartest?

Dawkins is a loud mouthed idiot, even his fellow "scientists" think he's an arrogant ass.

Your hypocrisy is showing. All Bill's arguments are "I CAN SPEAK LOUDER THAN YOU AND BE MORE OBNOXIOUS", so you can't really say anything about volume.