Farmers Are Being Unreasonable With Trump

[Johny Joe Hold]

I've been making phone calls this week to Republican farmers I know here in Iowa. They, along with farmers in other Midwest states, gave the President his victory in 2016.
I'm calling the farmers because they have been complaining about the President's failure to reach a trade deal with China. Farm prices dropped after the President was elected because he raised tariffs on goods from China and they, in turn, raised tariffs on soy beans produced here in Iowa. Many of the farmers I talk to cannot make loan payments on their farm land and tractors.

I tell the farmers they should not be focusing on themselves. The President needs votes from other states this election and does not need the farmers. If lots of them go bankrupt it will be for a good cause, I tell them. They need to man up and serve a greater cause.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/trump-says-happy-keep-tariffs-chinese-imports-place-132538054--business.html

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Farmers Are Being Unreasonable With Trump

The Bible tells us that we should think of others and not simply our own interests – it does this by giving us the example of Sacrifice.

It may be surprising to hear that God gave his only begotten Son that we may have Mr Trump as a president, but this becomes clearer when we realize that God Has a Plan! (He must have a Plan because the End of Days is described.) Therefore we can see that everything that happens is part of that Plan.

Men have their faults – yes, even Mr Trump may be too reticent in stating his mind or he may, from time to time, speak frankly as a father might to an errant son – and yet men served God’s Purpose and Will on earth.

We need to repay God for all that He has done – we need to help make His Plan come to fruition. On the overview, all is going well and when all is going well, it shows that God is pleased. We need to keep God pleased... The time for sacrifice has come again.

As you point out, there may be the odd victim of friendly fire, the odd piece of collateral damage but the Plan – The Big Picture – is on course if we hold our nerve, keep our faith in God and America, and support our lawful president.

[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: Farmers Are Being Unreasonable With Trump

As you point out, there may be the odd victim of friendly fire, the odd piece of collateral damage but the Plan – The Big Picture – is on course if we hold our nerve, keep our faith in God and America, and support our lawful president.

Thank you for that inspirational post, Pastor Bathfire.

My friend, Senator Kevin Cramer of North Dakota, said today he is hearing the same thing from farmers. They are worried. I hope he is telling them they must not slip and vote for a Democrat. A Democrat will bring in socialism.

https://www.kvrr.com/2019/05/07/a-lot-of-anxiety-in-nd-over-trade-worries-with-china-sen-cramer-says/?fbclid=IwAR09lyCyLDCRTHXzTLEnvSgcmXwb13nmL8UbmyL2yj_FiF5XuhZW-l1SBx4

[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: Farmers Are Being Unreasonable With Trump

Today our Christian friend and Vice President Mike Pence was in the Midwest trying to cheer up farmers. They are such a dour bunch. Look at their ungrateful faces.

One farmer had the nerve to tell the press,

“It’s vitally important that we keep that market open,” Harless told the vice president. He said markets need certainty, and “as long as USMCA isn’t ratified, there is uncertainty.” He said agricultural trade “shouldn’t be a political issue.”

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Farmers Are Being Unreasonable With Trump

I've been making phone calls this week to Republican farmers I know here in Iowa. They, along with farmers in other Midwest states, gave the President his victory in 2016.
I'm calling the farmers because they have been complaining about the President's failure to reach a trade deal with China. Farm prices dropped after the President was elected because he raised tariffs on goods from China and they, in turn, raised tariffs on soy beans produced here in Iowa. Many of the farmers I talk to cannot make loan payments on their farm land and tractors.

I tell the farmers they should not be focusing on themselves. The President needs votes from other states this election and does not need the farmers. If lots of them go bankrupt it will be for a good cause, I tell them. They need to man up and serve a greater cause.

Soy beans? Isn't that what's used to make soy latté?

8 g coffee beans grown on east facing slopes of the Andes
59 ml Chukotkan meltwater
170 ml organic soy milk
25 ml Comorian night-harvested vanilla infusion
4 mg desiccated saffron dust
undressed Himalayan sandalwood sticks (for stirring)
truffled vodka (flambé garnish)

Does anyone really need the "method" (which involves a thermometer) detailed? What sort of person would drink that? This, surely, is one crop America can do without.

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Re: Farmers Are Being Unreasonable With Trump

Today our Christian friend and Vice President Mike Pence was in the Midwest trying to cheer up farmers. They are such a dour bunch. Look at their ungrateful faces.

One farmer had the nerve to tell the press,

“It’s vitally important that we keep that market open,” Harless told the vice president. He said markets need certainty, and “as long as USMCA isn’t ratified, there is uncertainty.” He said agricultural trade “shouldn’t be a political issue.”

And whose fault is that? Trump signed it, and it's Pelosi and the DEMONcrats in congress holding it up.

A prescient voice from the past - H. Ross Perot said NAFTA was a giant "sucking sound" - and he turned out to be right. Never vote Democrat - if you've learned your lesson, and listen to Jesus.

[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: Farmers Are Being Unreasonable With Trump

Today there is even more whining by farmers and "agricultural analysts." This is after the President tweeted that he will purchase all the surplus grain and send it to starving countries.

All of this is part of the President's big picture approach to driving off socialism. If Democrats get into power the government will do everything.

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/money/agriculture/2019/05/10/us-china-trade-war-iowa-farmers-take-hit-tariffs-increase/1143730001/

[Brother Gonzalez]

Re: Farmers Are Being Unreasonable With Trump

Today there is even more whining by farmers and "agricultural analysts." This is after the President tweeted that he will purchase all the surplus grain and send it to starving countries.

All of this is part of the President's big picture approach to driving off socialism. If Democrats get into power the government will do everything.

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...se/1143730001/

I think grain can be used to fill the border wall. You know, you can save some concret while skyrocketing prices of agricultural goods. And making a wall to keep those smelly browns out of America.
Win win win.

[handmaiden]

Re: Farmers Are Being Unreasonable With Trump

Today there is even more whining by farmers and "agricultural analysts." This is after the President tweeted that he will purchase all the surplus grain and send it to starving countries.

All of this is part of the President's big picture approach to driving off socialism. If Democrats get into power the government will do everything.

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...se/1143730001/

Of course, The President will take care of the farmers! They are his people, and he always takes care of his own. Just like The Lord takes care of His people.

I am a little uncertain about sending grain to other countries, though. If God arranged for those people's grain crops to fail, should we be interfering?

[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: Farmers Are Being Unreasonable With Trump

Of course, The President will take care of the farmers! They are his people, and he always takes care of his own. Just like The Lord takes care of His people.
I am a little uncertain about sending grain to other countries, though. If God arranged for those people's grain crops to fail, should we be interfering?

We know God said there would be a famine in the seventh year. Maybe the President should buy cheap grain from farmers and store it for use when the famine hits us, about the year 2026.

https://www.biblehub.com/genesis/41-30.htm

[H. Montague Worthington]

Re: Farmers Are Being Unreasonable With Trump

What kind of REAL American grows soy beans? Soy beans make soy sauce, the spicy lubricant that Asians use to force their rancid food down their throats. It's the thing San Francisco liberals and lay-about hippies use to make tasteless vegan tofu. It's what city folks use to make Soylent Green, a "food" for lunatic liberals made from aborted babies, victims of Obama's Senior Citizen Death Squads, and soy beans.

So Donald Trump is doing Iowa farmers a huge favor!! He is singlehandedly turning Iowa's agriculture away from feeding Chinamen, aborting babies to be eaten by city folks, and sticking it to the San Francisco vegan hippies who smoke dope and prop up liberal socialism.


Brilliant on every level, Mr. Trump!!!!!!!!!

[Sally Paulson]

Re: Farmers Are Being Unreasonable With Trump

If you ask me, inside every soybean field is a golf course wanting to burst out.

I want to be able to hit a golf ball from coast to coast. Stop wasting space! Free the golf fields!

[Bezukhov]

Re: Farmers Are Being Unreasonable With Trump

You want a better system to manage trade with foreign nations? Just make it so that no one is allowed to buy or sell unless they have the Mark of America on their foreheads.

[Elmer G. White]

Re: Farmers Are Being Unreasonable With Trump

You want a better system to manage trade with foreign nations? Just make it so that no one is allowed to buy or sell unless they have the Mark of America on their foreheads.

Dear Friend,

We would never do business with people with markings on their foreheads. Getting a mark - such as a tattoo or the dot of the Ornamental Indians - is something that our Lord God abhors.

Leviticus 19:28
Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I [am] the LORD.

Eventually, many will receive the Mark of the Beast (but I doubt that it will be an American flag or any other Godly Patriotic symbol) and that will tell us who will be cast into the bottomless pit to be tormented for ever and ever.

Revelation 19:20
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[MitzaLizalor]

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For pedants thinking that "chips" are not tattoos isn't it true that they contain miniature PRINTED circuit boards?

My main question though is about the lake of fire burning with brimstone. I'm not going to look up the temperature at which brimstone catches fire because anyone could do that and get an answer almost immediately. Instead I'm asking about

Revelation 19:20e These both [the beast and the false prophet] were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Does the fact that the beast and the false prophet were alive when they were cast in mean that they remained alive after they were cast in? Obviously there was a time before they were cast in but what about afterwards? Did time still exist then?

My next question is about sinners who reject God's love. Is it the same lake of fire in either case?