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  • Why I can't be a Christian(Very Simple to understand)

    It's a question that a lot of Christians cannot answer without pulling out the silly "God's will" speech (which still makes Christianity seem like a horrible religion in this situation).
    Why would an Omni-benevolent (All loving), Omniscient (all knowing) God create a person knowing they would go to hell.
    A lot of people say it's to test the person, but if God KNEW you were going to hell why would it be loving for him to send you to hell?
    If he is real, then I can't help but think he's the biggest a-hole in the world for creating 2/3 of this world that aren't his little cheerleaders and sending them to hell.
    It's equivalent to worshiping a super hitler to me.

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    Re: Why I can't be a Christian(Very Simple to understand)

    Originally posted by Craids View Post
    It's a question that a lot of Christians cannot answer without pulling out the silly "God's will" speech (which still makes Christianity seem like a horrible religion in this situation).
    Why would an Omni-benevolent (All loving), Omniscient (all knowing) God create a person knowing they would go to hell.
    A lot of people say it's to test the person, but if God KNEW you were going to hell why would it be loving for him to send you to hell?
    If he is real, then I can't help but think he's the biggest a-hole in the world for creating 2/3 of this world that aren't his little cheerleaders and sending them to hell.
    It's equivalent to worshiping a super hitler to me.
    First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

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    I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.
    Who Will Jesus Damn?

    Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

    Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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    • #3
      Re: Why I can't be a Christian(Very Simple to understand)

      Originally posted by Craids View Post
      It's a question that a lot of Christians cannot answer without pulling out the silly "God's will" speech (which still makes Christianity seem like a horrible religion in this situation).
      Why would an Omni-benevolent (All loving), Omniscient (all knowing) God create a person knowing they would go to hell.
      Maybe as an example to the others? Look, just because God makes bad things happen does not make him nonexistant. When I eat burritos bad things happen, but that doesn't mean burritos don't exist.

      A lot of people say it's to test the person, but if God KNEW you were going to hell why would it be loving for him to send you to hell?
      It's loving because God does it. God is love.

      If he is real, then I can't help but think he's the biggest a-hole in the world for creating 2/3 of this world that aren't his little cheerleaders and sending them to hell.
      Considering God created YOU among them....No, I still love God.

      It's equivalent to worshiping a super hitler to me.
      Are you saying Hitler is nonexistant? That's holocaust denial, which is banned on this forum. On this forum we vow to never forget the thousands of Jews who died in the holocaust.
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      • #4
        Re: Why I can't be a Christian(Very Simple to understand)

        Woah, way to give me a good impression of the good lord there mr.christ like.
        It's called loving and understanding which I see none of in this forum.
        I'm not trying to debate I'm asking a question, taking answers into consideration, and possibly pray that I may be blessed with faith.

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        • #5
          Re: Why I can't be a Christian(Very Simple to understand)

          Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

          And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.
          Who Will Jesus Damn?

          Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

          Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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          • #6
            Re: Why I can't be a Christian(Very Simple to understand)

            Originally posted by Jeb Thurmond View Post
            Maybe as an example to the others? Look, just because God makes bad things happen does not make him nonexistant. When I eat burritos bad things happen, but that doesn't mean burritos don't exist.



            It's loving because God does it. God is love.



            Considering God created YOU among them....No, I still love God.



            Are you saying Hitler is nonexistant? That's holocaust denial, which is banned on this forum. On this forum we vow to never forget the thousands of Jews who died in the holocaust.
            -Your burrito analogy confuses me.I'm sorry but I would like if you would go further more into that.
            -I'm not blessed with enough faith to automatically believe that God's will is the definition of true love(so sorry)
            -I'm still confused on why he favors a minority fraction of the world.
            -No, I do believe hitler existed. I'm saying Gods acts of favoring only one type of person which happens to be the 1/3 of people on earth is hitlerish to my perspective.

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            • #7
              Re: Why I can't be a Christian(Very Simple to understand)

              Originally posted by Craids View Post
              Woah, way to give me a good impression of the good lord there mr.christ like.
              Jesus is impolite. Deal with it.

              It's called loving and understanding which I see none of in this forum.
              Quote the part of the Bible where Jesus tells us to understand the hellbound. He understands that the hellbound are a "Den of Vipers", and that's all that needs to be understood.

              I'm not trying to debate I'm asking a question,
              You're asking us to read God's mind. Have you ever considered God likes his privacy? It is not our business why the vast majority of people are going to burn in hell.
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              • #8
                Re: Why I can't be a Christian(Very Simple to understand)

                Originally posted by Craids View Post
                -Your burrito analogy confuses me.I'm sorry but I would like if you would go further more into that.
                Atheists say "God does evil things" as if they proves His nonexistence. It doesn't.

                Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

                Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?


                -I'm not blessed with enough faith to automatically believe that God's will is the definition of true love(so sorry)
                Now it's God's job to bless you with faith? The welfare mentality is now on a spiritual level!

                -I'm still confused on why he favors a minority fraction of the world.
                You don't need to know WHY. All you need to know is HOW. HOW starts with getting on your knees and repenting to the LORD.
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                • #9
                  Re: Why I can't be a Christian(Very Simple to understand)

                  Originally posted by Craids View Post
                  It's a question that a lot of Christians cannot answer without pulling out the silly "God's will" speech (which still makes Christianity seem like a horrible religion in this situation).
                  Why would an Omni-benevolent (All loving), Omniscient (all knowing) God create a person knowing they would go to hell.
                  A lot of people say it's to test the person, but if God KNEW you were going to hell why would it be loving for him to send you to hell?
                  If he is real, then I can't help but think he's the biggest a-hole in the world for creating 2/3 of this world that aren't his little cheerleaders and sending them to hell.
                  It's equivalent to worshiping a super hitler to me.
                  I'm really not sure what you want from us. First of all, it's a lot more than 2/3 of people that will be going to hell. That 1/3 are Christians include a lot of False Christians who will answer your challenge with "God loves everyone and there's many paths to Heaven".

                  We're just people, we have no way of comprehending why God does things, He has His reasons. He did however give us a book to live by, the KJV1611 Bible. Follow that and you'll avoid hell.
                  Drama queen

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                  • #10
                    Re: Why I can't be a Christian(Very Simple to understand)

                    I appreciate your feedback sir, it's nice to know you are taking time to converse with me on this subject and I'd like to let you know this before I go on
                    Originally posted by Jeb Thurmond View Post
                    Atheists say "God does evil things" as if they proves His nonexistence. It doesn't.

                    Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

                    Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?




                    Now it's God's job to bless you with faith? The welfare mentality is now on a spiritual level!



                    You don't need to know WHY. All you need to know is HOW. HOW starts with getting on your knees and repenting to the LORD.
                    -I don't consider his nonexistence due to the fact that bad things happen, I'm forced to question his love with my unanswered questions.
                    -I can't just snap my fingers and say that have faith.Faith to me seems like a gift that some people have and some don't, the ones that don't have questions, unanswered ones that leave them in a whirl-pool of disbelief or confusion.
                    -If I replace my "why" with a "how" it turns the question into "How could God favor only 1/3 of the human population" which still shows a lot of similarity to my original question

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                    • #11
                      Re: Why I can't be a Christian(Very Simple to understand)

                      Originally posted by BelieverInGod View Post
                      I'm really not sure what you want from us. First of all, it's a lot more than 2/3 of people that will be going to hell. That 1/3 are Christians include a lot of False Christians who will answer your challenge with "God loves everyone and there's many paths to Heaven".

                      We're just people, we have no way of comprehending why God does things, He has His reasons. He did however give us a book to live by, the KJV1611 Bible. Follow that and you'll avoid hell.
                      With all respect ma'am, how do you know(other by word of mouth) that the Bible is the word of a supernatural being?
                      I appreciate feed back

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                      • #12
                        Re: Why I can't be a Christian(Very Simple to understand)

                        Originally posted by Craids View Post
                        With all respect ma'am, how do you know(other by word of mouth) that the Bible is the word of a supernatural being?
                        I appreciate feed back
                        Because it says so in the Bible. Are you slow or something?
                        Who Will Jesus Damn?

                        Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                        Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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                        • #13
                          Re: Why I can't be a Christian(Very Simple to understand)

                          Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
                          Because it says so in the Bible. Are you slow or something?
                          If I write a book that says something and claim it is true simply because the book says so is considered circular reasoning.
                          That's not a correct way to prove something is true.
                          This is just how I see it. I wish I could have the faith to stand in your shoes of sureness of this subject sir.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Why I can't be a Christian(Very Simple to understand)

                            Originally posted by Craids View Post
                            -I don't consider his nonexistence due to the fact that bad things happen, I'm forced to question his love with my unanswered questions.
                            Well the men on here are much more well versed on such things, but all I can really say is that he set it up that way and if you want to avoid being the chaff, then you should join the winning team.

                            -I can't just snap my fingers and say that have faith.Faith to me seems like a gift that some people have and some don't, the ones that don't have questions, unanswered ones that leave them in a whirl-pool of disbelief or confusion.
                            No, you gain faith through prayer and reading the Bible.

                            James 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

                            And perhaps you are right that some are chosen to have faith, and some are not. I'm really not sure, it's a question I'm wrestling with myself right now.

                            -If I replace my "why" with a "how" it turns the question into "How could God favor only 1/3 of the human population" which still shows a lot of similarity to my original question
                            Again, I'm going to say, it's a lot less than 1/3



                            Edit:
                            Sorry, my network went down while I was responding, so I didn't get this done before you reposted.

                            Originally posted by Craids View Post
                            With all respect ma'am, how do you know(other by word of mouth) that the Bible is the word of a supernatural being?
                            I appreciate feed back
                            Yes it comes down to faith, when I was baptized a feeling came over me that was just amazing. I felt light enough to float away. You read the Bible, you pray for understanding of the Bible, and it is revealed to you.
                            Drama queen

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                            • #15
                              Re: Why I can't be a Christian(Very Simple to understand)

                              Originally posted by BelieverInGod View Post
                              Well the men on here are much more well versed on such things, but all I can really say is that he set it up that way and if you want to avoid being the chaff, then you should join the winning team.


                              No, you gain faith through prayer and reading the Bible.

                              James 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

                              And perhaps you are right that some are chosen to have faith, and some are not. I'm really not sure, it's a question I'm wrestling with myself right now.


                              Again, I'm going to say, it's a lot less than 1/3
                              "No, you gain faith through prayer and reading the Bible."
                              I've read the Bible several time chronologically, cover to cover, and random books of by choice, it does not fix my urge to question all that is brought to me, and when I was a strong believer in the lord I did have questions, I prayed for faith, it was what I strived for everyday was to be more faithful in the lord. But as I gained knowledge of what before seemed to me as satanic such as science and philosophy I began to consider another stand on life, but even now I still beg to have the faith of a Christian.

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