[BelieverInGod]

Originally Posted by Spreadable Butter

Are you implying that me aiding in converting of the unsaved did more harm than good because I didn't "take a bride"? I believe that those in a third-world country that have not heard the Word is more important than taking a bride home.

Yet you didn't know that having sex with a donkey was a sin. Exactly what Bible are you teaching these poor heathens?

Originally Posted by Tea_Party_Minister

I agree, Pastor. One True Christian ™ woman IS TRULY worth any number of unsaved trash. You are correct. Anyone who is unsaved is not even worthy of life and will burn in Hell for eternity.

A True Christian ™ woman is a blessing but such a woman is rare, for she must know her place next to a True Christian ™ man, as we learn in the Holy Bible KJV (1 Timothy 2:12).

Yeah, well it's not like you're a True Christian™ man, they're not this whiny.

[Spreadable Butter]

Originally Posted by BelieverInGod

Yet you didn't know that having sex with a donkey was a sin. Exactly what Bible are you teaching these poor heathens?

I said that if we are supposed to treat our wives as our livestock, then why don't we just marry our livestock.

And I'm teaching them the same bible as you quote on here; the one you claim will make an unsaved person saved.

[Samuel Coleridge]

Originally Posted by Spreadable Butter

I believe that those in a third-world country that have not heard the Word.

I feel incumbent to inquire as to how the people of Hermasillo, Sonora have never heard the Word of God? You could have fooled me.

[Samuel Coleridge]

Originally Posted by Spreadable Butter

I said that if we are supposed to treat our wives as our livestock, then why don't we just marry our livestock.

Now the Mexicans are nothing but livestock? You racist pig!

[Spreadable Butter]

Mexico is of Catholic heritage, so obviously they don't hold the same beliefs as you do.

So you're saying that because you found some pictures of churches in what appears to be a South American country, that everybody has heard the Word there? So using your logic, just because American has churches, everyone has heard the Word? That obviously wouldn't be a true fact. We reached out to those in hospitals, homeless shelters, and foster homes; those who have no means of attending a church.


And how in the world did you conclude that I was calling the Mexicans livestock? I have strong respect for them. They brought me Taco Bell after all.

[Tea_Party_Minister]

[MitzaLizalor]

Originally Posted by Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson

What if it is a Midianite woman as per Numbers 31?


And you didn't even take a bride? The Bible tells you what to do in that situation.
Deuteronomy 21:11-14 And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;
Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;
And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife.
And it shall be, if thou have no delight in her, then thou shalt let her go whither she will; but thou shalt not sell her at all for money, thou shalt not make merchandise of her, because thou hast humbled her.

Just remember. You cannot sell or prostitute her in that situation.

That seems consistent with Exodus 21:8 where a daughter has been sold but fails to please her new owner. Could you advise please, Pastor Sampson, whether any Mexican wives - once appropriated - who similarly failed to please would be permitted to return to Mexico?

Exodus 21:8c To sell her vnto a strange nation hee shall haue no power
©1611

[unclepaco]

Originally Posted by Spreadable Butter

There's a difference between being the head of the household and family and being inconsiderate and emotionally abusive to your wife.

agreed

[True Disciple]

Originally Posted by Spreadable Butter

Isn't sinning relative though? To some people here, simply using the Internet could be a sin because of its high proportion of pornographic websites. To others, murder wouldn't even fall under a sin. Sin is simply an opinion.

If that is so, where did Jesus die for? For just another "opinion?" Are you trying to force atheist immorality on our children?

In relation to this topic, if we are to treat women as we do our livestock, then why don't we just marry our donkeys?

Friend, you don't seem to understand the way we think here at Landover. We follow the Bible in every respect, not just the John 3:16-related parts, but also the Deuteronomy 22:28-29-related parts.

And the Bible says that women are property (I refer again to all the Scripture I quoted in my OP), but the Bible also forbids bestiality. After all, women are property just like livestock, but that does not mean that they are livestock. We also own cars, houses and refrigerators, but that does not mean that we consider women to be refrigerators. That would make no sense, would it?

Originally Posted by MitzaLizalor

That seems consistent with Exodus 21:8 where a daughter has been sold but fails to please her new owner. Could you advise please, Pastor Sampson, whether any Mexican wives - once appropriated - who similarly failed to please would be permitted to return to Mexico?

Exodus 21:8c To sell her vnto a strange nation hee shall haue no power
©1611

Well, not as slaves, because Mexico definitely classifies as a "strange country." If secular law would permit it, however, it would be allowed to sell her to other Americans, as the Bible explicitly mentions strange countries here, which means that this Law doesn't apply to our own country.

[MitzaLizalor]

Originally Posted by True Disciple

..Well, not as slaves, because Mexico definitely classifies as a "strange country." If secular law would permit it, however, it would be allowed to sell her to other Americans, as the Bible explicitly mentions strange countries here, which means that this Law doesn't apply to our own country..

Thank you for clarifying that. I had thought that was what The Bible indicated.

In which case - under Biblical Law, as clearly set out by God - the question arises as to when Mexico (in the case of a Mexican) becomes a strange nation, unto her? It wasn't one before any bride-price would have been paid: she would have been Mexican. (I am not referring to immigration laws here, but to the woman's "spiritual contition" I suppose: originally she would have been "spiritually" Mexican: when turned out for not pleasing… Mexico would have attained “strange nation” status & she would therefore have become "spiritually" not Mexican).

When would that transition take place?

For example if I were sold to an Indian Ocean island cannibal - his island would be a “strange land” - and failed to please him so that he developed a spontaneous hatred for me, jettisoning me from his establishment, would I then be stuck on the island (my current home having become “strange”), and would I adopt the Island identity upon payment of the bride-price, upon marriage or upon arrival at the island?

If I didn't become "spiritually” an islander until I actually got there I think that I'd prefer my new proprietor to discover his spontaneous hatred before taking me.

[True Disciple]

Originally Posted by MitzaLizalor

Thank you for clarifying that. I had thought that was what The Bible indicated.

In which case - under Biblical Law, as clearly set out by God - the question arises as to when Mexico (in the case of a Mexican) becomes a strange nation, unto her? It wasn't one before any bride-price would have been paid: she would have been Mexican. (I am not referring to immigration laws here, but to the woman's "spiritual contition" I suppose: originally she would have been "spiritually" Mexican: when turned out for not pleasing… Mexico would have attained “strange nation” status & she would therefore have become "spiritually" not Mexican).

When would that transition take place?

For example if I were sold to an Indian Ocean island cannibal - his island would be a “strange land” - and failed to please him so that he developed a spontaneous hatred for me, jettisoning me from his establishment, would I then be stuck on the island (my current home having become “strange”), and would I adopt the Island identity upon payment of the bride-price, upon marriage or upon arrival at the island?

If I didn't become "spiritually” an islander until I actually got there I think that I'd prefer my new proprietor to discover his spontaneous hatred before taking me.

"Strange country" means strange to the person selling the woman, I think, as Exodus 21:8 is directed to the person owning the woman. As usual in the Bible, the woman's perspective isn't really important here to God. So Mexico is always considered a strange country as long the owner of the women is an American.

[wait_what]

Originally Posted by Samuel Coleridge

Now the Mexicans are nothing but livestock? You racist pig!

Wait, they weren't before?

I am so confused.

Originally Posted by Spreadable Butter

Mexico is of Catholic heritage, so obviously they don't hold the same beliefs as you do.

So you're saying that because you found some pictures of churches in what appears to be a South American country, that everybody has heard the Word there? So using your logic, just because American has churches, everyone has heard the Word? That obviously wouldn't be a true fact. We reached out to those in hospitals, homeless shelters, and foster homes; those who have no means of attending a church.


And how in the world did you conclude that I was calling the Mexicans livestock? I have strong respect for them. They brought me Taco Bell after all.

I am not sure what you are trying to say here. Mexico is of voodoo pagan heritage, next they are Cat-a-licks. Either way those heathen would be better off as cattle for that reason. At least cattle will not be held accountable for their heresy.

What are you saying about hospitals and homeless shelters? You associate with the sinners that are obviously being punished there?

[vans6238]

I do not understand.... I am a female and I am 17. I was raised a methodist and I go to church every Sunday, but based on the bible I am apparently going to hell. So God doesn't love me as much as if I were a boy? Why didn't he make me a male? Am I just not important enough? Ugh, my head hurts.... I am SO confused right now, but I really am a good person! I have never had sex (or even kissed a boy). I am nice to everyone. My parents are divorced and I live with my dad because my mom is getting remarried (I didn't like the guy). I try my best in school. But I think I am just as good as a guy. And even though I am white, I think God made everyone equal because why would he want to hurt people if their not? Despite this I respect what you believe; I am just on this site to try and get a better understanding. Please forgive me if I made you mad, I am just trying to clarify my questions.

[Fishsucker]

Originally Posted by vans6238

I do not understand.... I am a female and I am 17. I was raised a methodist and I go to church every Sunday, but based on the bible I am apparently going to hell. So God doesn't love me as much as if I were a boy? Why didn't he make me a male? Am I just not important enough? Ugh, my head hurts.... I am SO confused right now, but I really am a good person! I have never had sex (or even kissed a boy). I am nice to everyone. My parents are divorced and I live with my dad because my mom is getting remarried (I didn't like the guy). I try my best in school. But I think I am just as good as a guy. And even though I am white, I think God made everyone equal because why would he want to hurt people if their not? Despite this I respect what you believe; I am just on this site to try and get a better understanding. Please forgive me if I made you mad, I am just trying to clarify my questions.

Its because Most of these bastards are angry they'll never get laid!

Praise the lord for inequality!

[Zechariah Smyth]

Originally Posted by Fishsucker

Its because Most of these bastards are angry they'll never get laid!

Praise the lord for inequality!

Son, there are no True Christian™ bastards: they are not even allowed into church, even if the bastardization of their lineage originated with their great- great- great- great- great- great- great- great- grandfather!



(Deuteronomy 23:2) "A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD."

My apologies if you were referring to your fellow Unsaved Trash.



Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by vans6238

... I am a female and I am 17. I was raised a methodist and I go to church every Sunday, but based on the bible I am apparently going to hell...

Not necessarily. The Bible is actually rather ambiguous about whether women have souls at all, and without a soul, you go neither to Heaven nor to Hell. Join the discussion here.

[Isaac Fisher]

Originally Posted by vans6238

I do not understand.... I am a female and I am 17. I was raised a methodist and I go to church every Sunday, but based on the bible I am apparently going to hell. So God doesn't love me as much as if I were a boy? Why didn't he make me a male? Am I just not important enough? Ugh, my head hurts.... I am SO confused right now, but I really am a good person! I have never had sex (or even kissed a boy). I am nice to everyone..

God made you so you may provide your husband with children and make his life pleasant. You seem like a nice enough girl.

You should get to heaven if you stopped being confused and read His word.

[Brother Temperance]

Originally Posted by vans6238

I do not understand.... I am a female and I am 17. I was raised a methodist and I go to church every Sunday, but based on the bible I am apparently going to hell. So God doesn't love me as much as if I were a boy? Why didn't he make me a male? Am I just not important enough? Ugh, my head hurts.... I am SO confused right now, but I really am a good person! I have never had sex (or even kissed a boy). I am nice to everyone. My parents are divorced and I live with my dad because my mom is getting remarried (I didn't like the guy). I try my best in school. But I think I am just as good as a guy. And even though I am white, I think God made everyone equal because why would he want to hurt people if their not? Despite this I respect what you believe; I am just on this site to try and get a better understanding. Please forgive me if I made you mad, I am just trying to clarify my questions.

You're going to Hell because you're a methodist. You need to give up the methodist heresy and become a Christian if you want to be saved.

[AwesomeCanadian(sewercockroach)]

Originally Posted by vans6238

I am a female and I am 17. . . . I have never had sex (or even kissed a boy). I am nice to everyone.

I would suggest that you get betrothed; if you are not betrothed then choice of spouse is taken from your father and delivered to whoever lays hold of you. You shouldn't be careless with your father's property.

Deuteronomy 22:28-29.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by AwesomeCanadian(sewercockroach)

I would suggest that you get betrothed; if you are not betrothed then choice of spouse is taken from your father and delivered to whoever lays hold of you. You shouldn't be careless with your father's property.

Deuteronomy 22:28-29.

You resurrected a thread that was over a year old just to post that? Are you on the drugs, son?

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.