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  • Redeemed Papist
    Former Mary Hailer who has seen The Light(c)
    True Christian™
    • Jul 2011
    • 10409

    #106
    Re: True Christians are Perfect!

    Originally posted by Redeemed Papist View Post
    That was not the question.

    Does God tell us to kill people who try to tell us to follow a false God that they have dreamed up?
    Yes, Yes he does.
    Deuteronomy 13

    1If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, 2And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; 3Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. 4Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him. 5And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.
    6If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; 7Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; 8Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: 9But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. 10And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. 11And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is among you.
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    Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

    John 5:46,47 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

    Join me in scoffing at backwards Muslims clinging to their beliefs in the face of the evidence!
    The truth about volcanos
    Sex and debauchery in public schools
    Faith wins over science (explained for even the very stupid)
    God Cures AIDS - GLORY!
    Desert whale bones prove Great Flood once and for all.

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    • alexthelowe
      Unsaved Trash, degenerate godmocker
      • Nov 2011
      • 31

      #107
      Re: True Christians are Perfect!

      Originally posted by Redeemed Papist View Post
      Yes, Yes he does.
      Deuteronomy 13

      1If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, 2And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; 3Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. 4Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him. 5And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.
      6If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; 7Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; 8Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: 9But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. 10And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. 11And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is among you.
      I knew where you were going, you made it obvious. So you disagree with the sixth commandment?
      Proverbs 6
      [16] These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
      [17] A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
      [18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
      [19] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

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      • Redeemed Papist
        Former Mary Hailer who has seen The Light(c)
        True Christian™
        • Jul 2011
        • 10409

        #108
        Re: True Christians are Perfect!

        Originally posted by alexthelowe View Post
        I knew where you were going, you made it obvious. So you disagree with the sixth commandment?
        Not at all. God doesn't want us to kill just because we feel like it. God wants us to kill when He wants us to. Why else spell it out in such detail. Were you trying to get me to justify murder? That's pretty satanic even for someone who is an antichrist.

        What is telling is how you shied away from the right answer.
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        Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

        John 5:46,47 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

        Join me in scoffing at backwards Muslims clinging to their beliefs in the face of the evidence!
        The truth about volcanos
        Sex and debauchery in public schools
        Faith wins over science (explained for even the very stupid)
        God Cures AIDS - GLORY!
        Desert whale bones prove Great Flood once and for all.

        Comment

        • alexthelowe
          Unsaved Trash, degenerate godmocker
          • Nov 2011
          • 31

          #109
          Re: True Christians are Perfect!

          Originally posted by Redeemed Papist View Post
          Not at all. God doesn't want us to kill just because we feel like it. God wants us to kill when He wants us to. Why else spell it out in such detail. Were you trying to get me to justify murder? That's pretty satanic even for someone who is an antichrist.

          What is telling is how you shied away from the right answer.
          It's sad that you stoop to accusing me of being an antichrist. God bless you all the same, the bible said you'd persecute me, thanks for proving me right

          2 Timothy 3:5
          Having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.
          Proverbs 6
          [16] These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
          [17] A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
          [18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
          [19] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

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          • SayvedByTheLord
            Sinner Who Has Found the Truth©
            True Christian™
            • May 2007
            • 3151

            #110
            Re: True Christians are Perfect!

            God commands us to smite sinners, the 6th commandment is there to make sure that it only happens when He says to.

            Originally posted by alexthelowe View Post
            You're correct, that ISN'T the question, it is the answer. God says thou shalt not kill, so that means that thou shalt not kill.


            Leviticus 26:27-29

            27 And if ye will not for all this hearken unto me, but walk contrary unto me;
            28 Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins.
            29 And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.

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            • alexthelowe
              Unsaved Trash, degenerate godmocker
              • Nov 2011
              • 31

              #111
              Re: True Christians are Perfect!

              Originally posted by SayvedByTheLord View Post
              God commands us to smite sinners, the 6th commandment is there to make sure that it only happens when He says to.
              The Bible says we are all sinners. One should try to teach forgiveness before killing people based on belief. Muslims kill Christians and as a result, Christians don't want to become Muslim. If Christians just kill everybody, nobody would want to be a Christian. God never told me to kill Muslims.

              Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God
              Proverbs 6
              [16] These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
              [17] A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
              [18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
              [19] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

              Comment

              • SayvedByTheLord
                Sinner Who Has Found the Truth©
                True Christian™
                • May 2007
                • 3151

                #112
                Re: True Christians are Perfect!

                Obviously you are not listening to Him.

                Originally posted by alexthelowe View Post
                God never told me to kill Muslims.

                Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God


                Leviticus 26:27-29

                27 And if ye will not for all this hearken unto me, but walk contrary unto me;
                28 Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins.
                29 And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.

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                • Jack O'fagan
                  With faith as immovable as the Earth
                  True Christian™
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 4836

                  #113
                  Re: True Christians are Perfect!

                  Originally posted by alexthelowe View Post
                  The Bible says we are all sinners. One should try to teach forgiveness before killing people based on belief. Muslims kill Christians and as a result, Christians don't want to become Muslim. If Christians just kill everybody, nobody would want to be a Christian. God never told me to kill Muslims.

                  Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God

                  1 Samuel 15:16 Then Samuel said unto Saul, Stay, and I will tell thee what the LORD hath said to me this night. And he said unto him, Say on. 17And Samuel said, When thou wast little in thine own sight, wast thou not made the head of the tribes of Israel, and the LORD anointed thee king over Israel?
                  18And the LORD sent thee on a journey, and said, Go and utterly destroy the sinners the Amalekites, and fight against them until they be consumed.
                  19Wherefore then didst thou not obey the voice of the LORD, but didst fly upon the spoil, and didst evil in the sight of the LORD?
                  20And Saul said unto Samuel, Yea, I have obeyed the voice of the LORD, and have gone the way which the LORD sent me, and have brought Agag the king of Amalek, and have utterly destroyed the Amalekites.



                  If you were Saul would you have denied God's wishes?


                  Jack


                  Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.

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                  I know God wouldn't let me believe in Him if He didn't exist.

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                  • alexthelowe
                    Unsaved Trash, degenerate godmocker
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 31

                    #114
                    Re: True Christians are Perfect!

                    Originally posted by SayvedByTheLord View Post
                    Obviously you are not listening to Him.
                    Nope, I listened, God told me to be a man of peace, for war breeds hatred.
                    You can go ahead and manipulate the scripture like all of you Landover Cultists do, but it won't change my mind. I know you're about to deny the fact that you are cultists and say I'm a satan worshiper or a communist or a homo or something equally ignorant without a basis, but you can type up a whole essay about how God told you to intentionally send people to hell instead of trying to convert them, I stand firm in my opinion. I know you disagree, you disagree with everybody who isnt a Republican Baptist Supremisist who is trying to use the scripture to boost your own egos. So don't surprise me now
                    Proverbs 6
                    [16] These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
                    [17] A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
                    [18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
                    [19] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

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                    • Jack O'fagan
                      With faith as immovable as the Earth
                      True Christian™
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 4836

                      #115
                      Re: True Christians are Perfect!

                      Originally posted by alexthelowe View Post
                      Nope, I listened, God told me to be a man of peace, for war breeds hatred.

                      Exodus 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

                      Matthew 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. 34Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.



                      Luke 12:51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:


                      Are you a God fearing Christian or just some dumb hippy?

                      YIC

                      Jack
                      Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.

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                      I know God wouldn't let me believe in Him if He didn't exist.

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                      • alexthelowe
                        Unsaved Trash, degenerate godmocker
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 31

                        #116
                        Re: True Christians are Perfect!

                        Originally posted by Jack O'fagan View Post
                        Exodus 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

                        Matthew 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. 34Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.



                        Luke 12:51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:


                        Are you a God fearing Christian or just some dumb hippy?

                        YIC

                        Jack
                        I'm going with God-fearing Christian, thanks for asking pal.
                        The reason so many people argue you with you people on this website is because you insist on insulting everybody who disagrees with you. Maybe if you attempted having an actual discussion with somebody instead of calling everybody who disagreed with you a communist, Muslim, homo, or hippie, then people would actually listen to what you're saying.
                        Proverbs 6
                        [16] These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
                        [17] A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
                        [18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
                        [19] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

                        Comment

                        • Jack O'fagan
                          With faith as immovable as the Earth
                          True Christian™
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 4836

                          #117
                          Re: True Christians are Perfect!

                          Originally posted by alexthelowe View Post
                          I'm going with God-fearing Christian, thanks for asking pal.
                          The reason so many people argue you with you people on this website is because you insist on insulting everybody who disagrees with you. Maybe if you attempted having an actual discussion with somebody instead of calling everybody who disagreed with you a communist, Muslim, homo, or hippie, then people would actually listen to what you're saying.
                          I don't care ONE JOT if anyone disagrees with me. What bothers me is when people disagree with God and just pick and chose bits of the Bible to suit their lifestyle.

                          YIC

                          Jack
                          Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.

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                          I know God wouldn't let me believe in Him if He didn't exist.

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                          • alexthelowe
                            Unsaved Trash, degenerate godmocker
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 31

                            #118
                            Re: True Christians are Perfect!

                            Originally posted by Jack O'fagan View Post
                            I don't care ONE JOT if anyone disagrees with me. What bothers me is when people disagree with God and just pick and chose bits of the Bible to suit their lifestyle.

                            YIC

                            Jack
                            Oh, well I disagree with you in almost everything I've seen you say. I'll go with God though. I don't care what bothers you by the way, and you know nothing about my lifestyle. I could care less if you think I worship satan, I need only to confess that Christ is my savior to go to heaven. If my interpretation of the bible isn't good enough for you, I don't care, it won't effect my salvation. Keep up with your cultist accusations and scripture bending, you won't change my mind no matter what
                            Proverbs 6
                            [16] These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
                            [17] A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
                            [18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
                            [19] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

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                            • Jack O'fagan
                              With faith as immovable as the Earth
                              True Christian™
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 4836

                              #119
                              Re: True Christians are Perfect!

                              Originally posted by alexthelowe View Post
                              Oh, well I disagree with you in almost everything I've seen you say. I'll go with God though. I don't care what bothers you by the way, and you know nothing about my lifestyle. I could care less if you think I worship satan, I need only to confess that Christ is my savior to go to heaven. If my interpretation of the bible isn't good enough for you, I don't care, it won't effect my salvation. Keep up with your cultist accusations and scripture bending, you won't change my mind no matter what
                              James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
                              Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.

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                              I know God wouldn't let me believe in Him if He didn't exist.

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                              • alexthelowe
                                Unsaved Trash, degenerate godmocker
                                • Nov 2011
                                • 31

                                #120
                                Re: True Christians are Perfect!

                                Originally posted by Jack O'fagan View Post
                                James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
                                That's a good verse Jack. Still don't think I'm going to Hell just because you want me to though. Want to try another one?
                                Proverbs 6
                                [16] These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
                                [17] A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
                                [18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
                                [19] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

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