[MitzaLizalor]

Re: $20 million Noah's Ark Display Will Show Drowning Sinners.

What is that man doing to her

[Mistress Cookie]

Re: $20 million Noah's Ark Display Will Show Drowning Sinners.

What is that man doing to her

I think those are the Biblical sinners who are going to drown (?)

They are up to no good.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: $20 million Noah's Ark Display Will Show Drowning Sinners.

I think those are the Biblical sinners who are going to drown (?)

They are up to no good.

I'm surprised they aren't fornicating right there. Disgusting wretches. No wonder God was angry with them and all their children and babies. No good was ever going to come of them, they must have been wicked through and through. Even the babies were foul, fornicating and blaspheming scum disrespecting their parents and being drunks and gluttons. What sort of people spawn such monsters!

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: $20 million Noah's Ark Display Will Show Drowning Sinners.

What sort of people spawn such monsters!

Those who define them, Mr Papist.

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: $20 million Noah's Ark Display Will Show Drowning Sinners.

Why do they have a rainbow in that picture Mistress Cookie posted? Rainbows didn't exist until after the Flood, because until then, it had never even rained before.

Gen 2:5-6 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.

Gen 9:11-16
11 And I will establish my covenant with you, neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.
12 And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations:
13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.
14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:
15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.
16 And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth.

Yet here we have all the animals getting onto the ark with a rainbow in a cloudless sky. Even the passage above speaks about how the "bow shall be in the cloud." If they're going to spend $20 million on the display they might as well get it 100% historically accurate.

[Thinks Design]

Re: $20 million Noah's Ark Display Will Show Drowning Sinners.

I hope they'll put in models of two of every species of animal to prove once and for all to the Darwinists that they all fit on the ark with plenty of room to spare.

This is why evolution is a theory in crisis: it's on the ropes.

Why? Because if evolution was true if there was such a powerful selection pressure in a world wide flood people would have morphed gills like in that film.

This is obvious evidence for the Design Inference. The Evo crowd try to sweep this under the radar because they have no intelligent answer.

ThinksDesign.

[Mistress Cookie]

Re: $20 million Noah's Ark Display Will Show Drowning Sinners.

being punished for Ham looking on his father's nakedness. That's God's message to us.

Can we please not get into THAT story again?

It gives some of us flashbacks of suppressed memories (I mean, I HEAR that it does....)

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: $20 million Noah's Ark Display Will Show Drowning Sinners.

Can we please not get into THAT story again?

It gives some of us flashbacks of suppressed memories (I mean, I HEAR that it does....)

That is a great example of "false memory" (so easy to implant, the secularist spouts, that most childhood memories are in fact "false" and derive from "religious brainwashing").

Affirming the Consequent in such a way is fallacious reasoning - not that any evolutionist would teach such a thing - but Christians know The Truth. Travelling by train recently I decided to order breakfast. But because I was in France I needed to select from the petit déjeuner menu.

The breakfast of my home is the petit déjeuner of France.

The Christian home is Heaven. We answered His call while yet sinners Romans 5:8 and are justified by faith BUT SOME PEOPLE REJECT GOD. The message of The Gospel goes out to wretches yet mired in sin, ignorant fools who are spiritually dead and discern not The Truth. God knows this and explains:

JOHN 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
KJV

Just as what we know to be breakfast is to the heathen Frenchie petit déjeuner so what we know to be life is to the heathen secularist electromagnetism.

In their warped perspective the "speed of light" becomes the "escape velocity of the universe" but there is no escape from HELL.

John 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. KJV

I don't know whether my French is very good, I hope so of course but it may not be, hovever there were 1 or 2 Frenchwomen (I use the term loosely) also in the compartment and they giggled when they heard my order. They started gabbling about petit dèj and pointing; I must say they were not very well dressed and I thought they'd been to a costume party or something but it turned out they always wore so little. The myth of electromagnetism and ionising radiation was propounded in large part by a Frenchwoman. It will come as no surprise to any of my Christian sisters that the vices uniquely designed to tempt us originated in France and those strumpets were living proof. I can assure you that they were not talking about food - not that much was served, just a greasy roll, coffee & some goo. It was also quite expensive.

The twin lies of SOCIALISM and RADIOACTIVITY originated in FRANCE. Bedfellows with lust, vice and greed. As they define their world so they spawn their monsters, infecting even England and the whole world.

So YES Mr Darwin we know all about rainbows, we WILL expose your straw men and we will always be FREE.

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. KJV

Hallelujah!

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: $20 million Noah's Ark Display Will Show Drowning Sinners.

The twin lies of SOCIALISM and RADIOACTIVITY originated in FRANCE. Bedfellows with lust, vice and greed. As they define their world so they spawn their monsters, infecting even England and the whole world.

Reposted for Truth(r).

[Father Maurice Lester]

Re: $20 million Noah's Ark Display Will Show Drowning Sinners.

Shouldn't the 'exhibit' show innocents drowning as well as sinners? Are we to believe that nobody in Noah's family (all were hundreds of years old) were without sin?

Please.

This is why we Roman Catholics, whose Church is built on the rock of St. Peter as per the directions of Jesus Him very self, try so hard to explain in great detail why the Old Testament (written by Jews for Jews) is a series of parables. There are no Christians in the Old Testament so please do not ascribe Christian reality to these well-meaning but unreliable Jewish folk-tales.



Bless you, my missing the point punters,
Father Mo







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[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: $20 million Noah's Ark Display Will Show Drowning Sinners.

Shouldn't the 'exhibit' show innocents drowning as well as sinners? Are we to believe that nobody in Noah's family (all were hundreds of years old) were without sin?

Please.

Bless you, my missing the point punters,
Father Mo
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Padre MOOO--Since when are Catlicks experts in sin? It is only we at Landover Baptist that know how to recognize and condeme sinners.


God instructed Noah to let sinners drown. That's what he did. Finally, we will see a depiction of this justice in the $20 million display.

If God told one of us at LBC to build such an Ark today, Catholics would all drown.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: $20 million Noah's Ark Display Will Show Drowning Sinners.

Shouldn't the 'exhibit' show innocents drowning ..plus more of the same

I know that catholics are discouraged from reading The Bible but should have thought you'd at least know about this, so I checked:

GENESIS 6
5 And God seeing that the wickedness of men was great on the earth, and that all the thought of their heart was bent upon evil at all times,
6 It repented him that he had made man on the earth. And being touched inwardly with sorrow of heart,
7 He said: I will destroy man, whom I have created, from the face of the earth, from man even to beasts, from the creeping thing even to the fowls of the air, for it repenteth me that I have made them.
8 But Noe found grace before the Lord.
9 These are the generations of Noe: Noe was a just and perfect man in his generations, he walked with God.
10 And he begot three sons, Sem, Cham, and Japheth.
11 And the earth was corrupted before God, and was filled with iniquity.
©Douay-Rheims

I do assume that you are literate, the vatican having the world's highest literacy rate (100%), so won't post dictionary definitions as I usually do in these cases. Here are some highlights:



Firstly, the account is not significantly different from the King James translation, the salient features are more or less intact (but the numerous additions are altogether heretical, as one would expect)

verse 5: all the thought of their heart was bent upon evil at all times

Secondly, God does not say "most of the thought.." or "except for children.." but is clear which thought of their heart He is talking about

all the thought of their heart

Thirdly, God continues to specify the times at which these thoughts are evil; notice in particular that He does not mention "except when sleeping.." or "but not when suckling a baby.."

evil at all times



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verse 9: Noe was a just and perfect man in his generations, he walked with God.

Fourthly, No suggestion that he was OK most of the time but occasionally went out slutting or that now and then he might eat a bat. God's word here is

perfect

GENESIS 6
17 Behold I will bring the waters of a great flood upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, under heaven. All things that are in the earth shall be consumed.
18 And I will establish my covenant with thee, and thou shalt enter into the ark, thou and thy sons, and thy wife, and the wives of thy sons with thee.
©Douay-Rheims

Fifthly, This family was saved because of a covenant, and we know from history just how lacking in perfection one at least of them was. The patriarch was perfect. God states this in black and white. Everyone else, other than the sons and wives, were drowned.

verses 17b – 18a All things that are in the earth shall be consumed. And I will establish my covenant with thee..

Sixthly, to recap. then - Wholly evil at all times, regardless of age or sleep. One family spared because of a covenant deriving from the fact that its patriarch was perfect. And copious text interspersed with Scripture, such as it is, in this heretical document.



NOTE: the papist Douay-Rheims translation "from the original Latin" is well envenomed with additions in direct contravention of God's Commandment and is provided here for reference only

. . . . . . . . . .
. . KJV1611 . . . . . . .KJV1769. . . . . . .Douay-Rheims

no portion of The Bible was written in Latin

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: $20 million Noah's Ark Display Will Show Drowning Sinners.

This is why we Roman Catholics, whose Church is built on the rock of St. Peter as per the directions of Jesus Him very self, try so hard to explain in great detail why the Old Testament (written by Jews for Jews) is a series of parables. There are no Christians in the Old Testament so please do not ascribe Christian reality to these well-meaning but unreliable Jewish folk-tales.

So you write off two-thirds of the Bible as unreliable folk tales? I am shocked ...









that for once you're honest about it.

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: $20 million Noah's Ark Display Will Show Drowning Sinners.

Shouldn't the 'exhibit' show innocents drowning as well as sinners? Are we to believe that nobody in Noah's family (all were hundreds of years old) were without sin?

Gen 18:25 That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?

Our loving God would never slay the righteous with the wicked. Had there been ten righteous persons alive in Noah's day, He would have spared the whole world for their sake, using the logic set out in Gen 18:32.

This is why we Roman Catholics, whose Church is built on the rock of St. Peter as per the directions of Jesus Him very self

I presume you are referring to Mat 16:18.

And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Allow me to quote from Matthew Henry's commentary. I think he gives a brilliant exposition of this verse.

Others, by this rock, understand Christ; "Thou art Peter, thou hast the name of a stone, but upon this rock, pointing to himself, I will build my church.’’ Perhaps he laid his hand on his breast, as when he said, Destroy this temple (Jn. 2:19 ), when he spoke of the temple of his body. Then he took occasion from the temple, where he was, so to speak of himself, and gave occasion to some to misunderstand him of that; so here he took occasion from Peter, to speak of himself as the Rock, and gave occasion to some to misunderstand him of Peter. But this must be explained by those many scriptures which speak of Christ as the only Foundation of the church; see 1 Co. 3:11 ; 1 Pt. 2:6 . Christ is both its Founder and its Foundation.

This is very clear in the original Greek.

The word petros for Peter in the Greek is in the masculine gender and the word petra for the rock is in the feminine gender. Petros and petra are two distinct words in the Greek. Petros is a shifting, rolling, or insecure stone, while petra is a solid, immov*able rock.

Let us quote the text again: "I say also unto thee [to Peter], That thou art Peter [petros, masculine gender], and upon this Rock [petra, feminine gender] I will build My church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it" (Matt. 16:18). The text indicates clearly that the church of Christ is built on petra and not on Petros.

The gates of hell shall not prevail against the church, because Jesus, not Peter, who holds the keys to hell.

Rev 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

If you stopped diddling choir boys long enough to pick up a 1611 KJV and actually read it (you can skip over the apocrypha at the end, though), you would know these things.

We try so hard to explain in great detail why the Old Testament (written by Jews for Jews) is a series of parables. There are no Christians in the Old Testament so please do not ascribe Christian reality to these well-meaning but unreliable Jewish folk-tales.

It's true that the word "Christian" is not mentioned until the New Testament.

Acts 11:26 And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

But God preached the gospel to Abraham, the father of the joos.

Gal 3:7-9 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

The same Gospel that we Christians believe in.

Gal 3:7, 9 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

Christians are the real children of Abraham, not the joos.

There is no other Gospel, and never has been.

Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

Moses wrote about Jesus.

Jn 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me.

Moses wrote the first five books of the Old Testament. Those books are all about Jesus! When we read about the Flood, the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, the ten plagues of Egypt, the ceremonial laws, we are reading about Jesus. If you extricate these books from the Bible, you extricate Jesus from the Bible. If I may paraphrase Jesus' words -- if you believed Jesus, you would believe Moses.

Both Moses and Elijah were firm believers in Jesus and knew all the details about His impending temporary sacrifice for them even before it happened.

Lk 9:28-36
28 And it came to pass about an eight days after these sayings, he took Peter and John and James, and went up into a mountain to pray.
29 And as he prayed, the fashion of his countenance was altered, and his raiment was white and glistering.
30 And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elias:
31 Who appeared in glory, and spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem.
32 But Peter and they that were with him were heavy with sleep: and when they were awake, they saw his glory, and the two men that stood with him.
33 And it came to pass, as they departed from him, Peter said unto Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias: not knowing what he said.
34 While he thus spake, there came a cloud, and overshadowed them: and they feared as they entered into the cloud.
35 And there came a voice out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.
36 And when the voice was past, Jesus was found alone. And they kept it close, and told no man in those days any of those things which they had seen.

Noah was perfect, just like a True Christian(tm).

Gen 6:9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.

He must have been born of God, just like a Christian.

1 Jn 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

1 Jn 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

The Old Testament was written all that time ago for us, for New-Testament Christians.

Rom 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

The Old Testament Scriptures give us patience and comfort and hope. The Apostle Peter tells Christians to be mindful of the words of the Old Testament prophets and gives them equal weight with the words of the Apostles.

2 Pet 3:1-2 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance: that ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour.

Obadiah, an Old Testament prophet, is just as important as, say, Romans, which was written by the Apostle Paul.

Jesus did not come to abolish the law and the prophets but to fulfil them.

Mat 5:17-18 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

You think the Old Testament is a bunch of fairytales? What about all the Old Testament prophecies that were fulfilled by Jesus? What about all the quotes from the Old Testament in the New Testament? Why would the Apostles quote fairytales? Let me remind you of Rev 22:18-19.

For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

You catholics are two for two on this one. You have removed the Old Testament from the Bible and added the apocrypha to the canon of Scripture. God will take away your name from the book of life and visit on you the plagues of Revelation. At the time of the reformation, the pope anathematised all Protestants. But you are the ones who preach a false Gospel.

Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed [anathema].

The anathema rests on you.









I've just had an afterthought. If the Old Testament is a just bunch of fairytales, why did you guys go to all the trouble of adding the apocrypha to the Old Testament?

[Father Maurice Lester]

Re: $20 million Noah's Ark Display Will Show Drowning Sinners.

Edited for clarity...

The Old Testament was in written in a manner that could be understood by the unwashed, uneducated and unsophisticated goat-herders and subsistence farmers of the day. The idea was to bring a resonant familiarity to the aforementioned folks so they could get there heads around the bigger picture without having to use concepts well beyond their ability to reason.

Sadly, this dumbing down still finds a large audience of unwashed, uneducated and unsophisticated goat-herders and subsistence farmers today.



We call these folks American Baptwits.



Bless you my verbose and vacuous vilipendite,
Father Mo




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