[Rev. Edward Clement]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

I notice that you didn't use a single Bible verse to bolster your laughable claims. This is probably because you are too preoccupied with anal sex to give Jesus a second thought.



(Leviticus 18:22) "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

YiC,

Zech

Indeed Brother, the man boasts of his great intellect and yet, he has trouble grasping the most Absolute Truth©.

And as the Baal worshippers of the past, his false-God will not answer him.

1 Kings

18:26 And they took the bullock which was given them, and they dressed it, and called on the name of Baal from morning even until noon, saying, O Baal, hear us. But there was no voice, nor any that answered. And they leaped upon the altar which was made.
18:27 And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked.

[Zechariah Smyth]

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There is tons of proof that the Bible is wrong. By common sense. We weren't born in that time but it's obvious the bible has been perverted and changed over the years. Plus, hey it was man made. Look in to the laws of physics and geology and you will soon see Noah ark is impossible for starters. the same goes for the vast majority of it.

I notice that you didn't use a single Bible verse to bolster your laughable claims. This is probably because you are too preoccupied with anal sex to give Jesus a second thought.



(Leviticus 18:22) "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

YiC,

Zech

[Albert The Lunkhead (On Moderation)]

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God doesn't deal in possibilities: He deals in absolutes.

There is tons of proof that the Bible is wrong. By common sense. We weren't born in that time but it's obvious the bible has been perverted and changed over the years. Plus, hey it was man made. Look in to the laws of physics and geology and you will soon see Noah ark is impossible for starters. the same goes for the vast majority of it.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

You mean Christianity? Hope to disappoint you brother but our numbers are falling greatly every day.

Please give a source for your outrageous claim.

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[Real Nutjob]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

there are are billions of people who follow the one true religion. You think they are all wrong and you are right?

You mean Christianity? Hope to disappoint you brother but our numbers are falling greatly every day.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

It's a possibility.

God doesn't deal in possibilities: He deals in absolutes.

(Deuteronomy 32:4) "He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he."

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[Albert The Lunkhead (On Moderation)]

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there are are billions of people who follow the one true religion. You think they are all wrong and you are right?

It's a possibility.

[Tommy Lunkhead]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

there are are billions of people who follow the one true religion. You think they are all wrong and you are right?

Possiblity...

[Nobar King]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

So you think religion that your parents that you
is only true religion out of thousands upon thousands
through history?
What a coincidence

there are are billions of people who follow the one true religion. You think they are all wrong and you are right?

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

So you think religion that your parents that you
is only true religion out of thousands upon thousands
through history?
What a coincidence

But if God is actually real the probability is 1.

It does not matter how many other potential states of existence there are, if God is real there is a zero probability of Him not being real.

YIC

[{Anna}]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

So you think religion that your parents that you
is only true religion out of thousands upon thousands
through history?
What a coincidence

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

I asked your opinion

I don't have "opinions" but am happy to quote Scripture with context as appropriate so as to avoid accusations of cherry picking.

The context of "other gods" is given in The Bible. God explains how false gods are false, how they have themselves to be made by some metalworker (or woodworker or potter) like this:

Habakkuk 2
18 What profiteth the graven image that the maker thereof hath graven it; the molten image, and a teacher of lies, that the maker of his work trusteth therein, to make dumb idols?
19 Woe unto him that saith to the wood, Awake; to the dumb stone, Arise, it shall teach! Behold, it is laid over with gold and silver, and there is no breath at all in the midst of it.
KJV

They are incapable of doing anything at all let alone create the whole world including the very metal and wood they're crafted from.
God is particularly clear that anyone who considers the merits of any idol or other false god (such as planets or the anogenital area) is exactly the same as a prostitute. As far as God is concerned reading your horoscope and hanging around down the docks in a spandex miniskirt when the fleet is in at midnight are not two activities, they are the same activity and you might just as well eat live babies. He is very clear on this point.

Eventually the Israelites got the idea.

Lamentations 5
22 But thou hast utterly rejected us; thou art very wroth against us.
KJV

Why are you having such difficulty with the concept?

[{Anna}]

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I noticed you have eurotrash connections, perhaps like Jean Paul Gaultier or Vivienne Westwood you incline towards leather kilts and deconstructed bustles? or even both at the same time nothing would surprise me which is why I think you'll understand what I'm going to say.

Imagine you have a boyfriend |significant other| and you've become suspicious he |she or it| is out slutting as is the heathen way.

Hosea 1
2bii whoredoms and children of whoredoms:
2ci for the land hath committed great whoredom
KJV

You follow your suspicions up with some surveillance. Wriggling along through the undergrowth at night wearing infrared goggles and a purple latex onesie you are able to conceal yourself effectively as the object of your desires scurries furtively into the forest. So far then you are more or less indistinguishable from other eurotrashians but consider the horror, thrill of dark despair when you adjust your goggles, zoom in on the disrobing procedure and there is your belovèd entwined in love's embrace |at it with an obelisk|.

You would be devastated.

The obelisk is not alive, has not stolen anything from you, is altogether a passive agent in the matter. No two tails test is needed to determine the guilt |even greater lustful insanity than normally pertains in Europa| of your partner EVEN THOUGH THE OBELISK IS INERT. God is like that. He spells it out here:

Isaiah 44
13 The carpenter stretcheth out his rule; he marketh it out with a line; he fitteth it with planes, and he marketh it out with the compass, and maketh it after the figure of a man, according to the beauty of a man; that it may remain in the house.
14 He heweth him down cedars, and taketh the cypress and the oak, which he strengtheneth for himself among the trees of the forest: he planteth an ash, and the rain doth nourish it.
15 Then shall it be for a man to burn: for he will take thereof, and warm himself; yea, he kindleth it, and baketh bread; yea, he maketh a god, and worshippeth it; he maketh it a graven image, and falleth down thereto.
16 He burneth part thereof in the fire; with part thereof he eateth flesh; he roasteth roast, and is satisfied: yea, he warmeth himself, and saith, Aha, I am warm, I have seen the fire:
17 And the residue thereof he maketh a god, even his graven image: he falleth down unto it, and worshippeth it, and prayeth unto it, and saith, Deliver me; for thou art my god.
KJV

The whole point of that passage needs no explanation, and I will intrude none. The false god is an inert object, it is not alive, it can do nothing. From the very outset its existence derives from the diseased imagination of the heathen wretch who needed to manufacture the thing. The phantasm it represents is only real in the sense that the psychiatric condition of the idolator is real.

It would be the same with your boyfriend |current delusional obsession| and that obelisk. You could not feel jealousy to the monstrosity erected there in the forest all those years ago (probably by druids), the hand that mocked it nor the heart that fed. You would be jealous of your boyf.

There is a God shaped space in each of us which only God can fill. Anything we put in there becomes a god for us whether it has objective actuality (such as eel worshippers may experience: the eel is alive) or not (obelisks regardless of size, and these days many miniature obelisks are manufactured in a variety of materials many of then clockwork or even electric they may feel like they're alive but they're not: just another phantasm).

Returning to Hosea then we understand God's Clear Message:

Hosea 1,2
1:2 The beginning of the word of the LORD by Hosea. And the LORD said to Hosea, Go, take unto thee a wife of whoredoms and children of whoredoms: for the land hath committed great whoredom, departing from the LORD.
2:2 Plead with your mother, plead: for she is not my wife, neither am I her husband: let her therefore put away her whoredoms out of her sight, and her adulteries from between her breasts;
3 Lest I strip her naked, and set her as in the day that she was born, and make her as a wilderness, and set her like a dry land, and slay her with thirst.
4 And I will not have mercy upon her children; for they be the children of whoredoms.
5 For their mother hath played the harlot: she that conceived them hath done shamefully: for she said, I will go after my lovers, that give me my bread and my water, my wool and my flax, mine oil and my drink.
6 Therefore, behold, I will hedge up thy way with thorns, and make a wall, that she shall not find her paths.
7a And she shall follow after her lovers,
KJV

This inert object is one of them

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I don't any imagination is necessary, do you?

I asked your opinion on First commandment and my interpretacion
Whay it say
Exodus 20:3
"Thou shall have no other gods before me"
and not simply
“Thou shall have no other gods”
and to to whom your all powerful God is he jealous to?

not about Gods and statues-I knew your opinion on that

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

One qvestion abaut this
Exodus 20:3
"Thou shall have no other gods before me"
Frist is the absence of any insistence on monotheism here
God does not declare that he is the only god in existence
but on the contrary, the words presume the existence of other gods
and insist that they should not be worshipped
and in beginning Hebrews believed in many Gods
but worship one

Why?
Becoze it not say
“Thou shall have no other gods”
or anything similar
It says
"Thou shall have no other gods before me"

Exodus 20:5
"Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God"
If he is one and only all powerful God
to whom is he jealous to?

I noticed you have eurotrash connections, perhaps like Jean Paul Gaultier or Vivienne Westwood you incline towards leather kilts and deconstructed bustles? or even both at the same time nothing would surprise me which is why I think you'll understand what I'm going to say.

Imagine you have a boyfriend |significant other| and you've become suspicious he |she or it| is out slutting as is the heathen way.

Hosea 1
2bii whoredoms and children of whoredoms:
2ci for the land hath committed great whoredom
KJV

You follow your suspicions up with some surveillance. Wriggling along through the undergrowth at night wearing infrared goggles and a purple latex onesie you are able to conceal yourself effectively as the object of your desires scurries furtively into the forest. So far then you are more or less indistinguishable from other eurotrashians but consider the horror, thrill of dark despair when you adjust your goggles, zoom in on the disrobing procedure and there is your belovèd entwined in love's embrace |at it with an obelisk|.

You would be devastated.

The obelisk is not alive, has not stolen anything from you, is altogether a passive agent in the matter. No two tails test is needed to determine the guilt |even greater lustful insanity than normally pertains in Europa| of your partner EVEN THOUGH THE OBELISK IS INERT. God is like that. He spells it out here:

Isaiah 44
13 The carpenter stretcheth out his rule; he marketh it out with a line; he fitteth it with planes, and he marketh it out with the compass, and maketh it after the figure of a man, according to the beauty of a man; that it may remain in the house.
14 He heweth him down cedars, and taketh the cypress and the oak, which he strengtheneth for himself among the trees of the forest: he planteth an ash, and the rain doth nourish it.
15 Then shall it be for a man to burn: for he will take thereof, and warm himself; yea, he kindleth it, and baketh bread; yea, he maketh a god, and worshippeth it; he maketh it a graven image, and falleth down thereto.
16 He burneth part thereof in the fire; with part thereof he eateth flesh; he roasteth roast, and is satisfied: yea, he warmeth himself, and saith, Aha, I am warm, I have seen the fire:
17 And the residue thereof he maketh a god, even his graven image: he falleth down unto it, and worshippeth it, and prayeth unto it, and saith, Deliver me; for thou art my god.
KJV

The whole point of that passage needs no explanation, and I will intrude none. The false god is an inert object, it is not alive, it can do nothing. From the very outset its existence derives from the diseased imagination of the heathen wretch who needed to manufacture the thing. The phantasm it represents is only real in the sense that the psychiatric condition of the idolator is real.

It would be the same with your boyfriend |current delusional obsession| and that obelisk. You could not feel jealousy to the monstrosity erected there in the forest all those years ago (probably by druids), the hand that mocked it nor the heart that fed. You would be jealous of your boyf.

There is a God shaped space in each of us which only God can fill. Anything we put in there becomes a god for us whether it has objective actuality (such as eel worshippers may experience: the eel is alive) or not (obelisks regardless of size, and these days many miniature obelisks are manufactured in a variety of materials many of then clockwork or even electric they may feel like they're alive but they're not: just another phantasm).

Returning to Hosea then we understand God's Clear Message:

Hosea 1,2
1:2 The beginning of the word of the LORD by Hosea. And the LORD said to Hosea, Go, take unto thee a wife of whoredoms and children of whoredoms: for the land hath committed great whoredom, departing from the LORD.
2:2 Plead with your mother, plead: for she is not my wife, neither am I her husband: let her therefore put away her whoredoms out of her sight, and her adulteries from between her breasts;
3 Lest I strip her naked, and set her as in the day that she was born, and make her as a wilderness, and set her like a dry land, and slay her with thirst.
4 And I will not have mercy upon her children; for they be the children of whoredoms.
5 For their mother hath played the harlot: she that conceived them hath done shamefully: for she said, I will go after my lovers, that give me my bread and my water, my wool and my flax, mine oil and my drink.
6 Therefore, behold, I will hedge up thy way with thorns, and make a wall, that she shall not find her paths.
7a And she shall follow after her lovers,
KJV

This inert object is one of them

I don't any imagination is necessary, do you?

[{Anna}]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

One qvestion abaut this
Exodus 20:3
"Thou shall have no other gods before me"
Frist is the absence of any insistence on monotheism here
God does not declare that he is the only god in existence
but on the contrary, the words presume the existence of other gods
and insist that they should not be worshipped
and in beginning Hebrews believed in many Gods
but worship one

Why?
Becoze it not say
“Thou shall have no other gods”
or anything similar
It says
"Thou shall have no other gods before me"

Exodus 20:5
"Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God"
If he is one and only all powerful God
to whom is he jealous to?