[Nitram]

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Do Christ condone the rape of young boys? No he doesn't. Catholics aren't Christians. End of discussion.

Seriously all you think about is raping young boys, got a few down in the cellar or something? There are billions more Catholics in Christianity than there are 'True Christians' such as yourself. So I do believe that you are outnumbered. mormon.

Read the thread. Or join the "special needs" forum. Dyslectic retard.

What exactly have I said that makes me dyslexic?
You're the bloody dyslexic one here, you can't even spell it right.
And I did read the forum, and as I have already said, your friend got the definition wrong.

If you insist however on there being no such thing as agnostics, that still doesn't make me an atheist! I am merely someone who believe it is impossible to know whether or not god exists, because you can neither disprove nor prove it to be so. And since you are already familiar with the definition of an atheist, you will be able to see that I am not one.

So, you agree that if hundreds of atheists started raping puppies, it would become a natural thing, and therefore a good thing?

No, firstly I do not believe rape is right, so it is a completely different comparison. Also the puppies cannot consent to it so it would never be right no matter how many people did it.
If however the puppies could consent and say yes I want you to do that, then it would be a different story. But they cannot, so this is really irrelevant.

So... if I chop of the "pleasure stick" of a puppy, that "stick" was never alive, so you could stick it in your cooter without feeling any remorse?

You're a sick lady, friend.

I'm the sick one? You're the one coming up with all this not me. Where do you even get it from, it's just disgusting.
Who would want to chop a 'pleasure stick' off a puppy? That's wrong. You would have something mentally wrong with you if you did that, and belong in a nut house.

[QUOTE=Thomas Dalton;847701]Look, lady, I humored you long enough. A legless man cannot compete in the Olympics without equipment, like a retard is not allowed to post on this forum without spellchecker. I knew women were thick, but please, think before you post. [QUOTE]

Well then maybe you shouldn't be on this forum without a spellchecker either, considering you cannot even spell dyslexic!

You cannot use the bible as proof!
Besides the bible wasn't written by god himself. The scripture was inspired by god, but you'll find people wrote it, not him. People wrote the bible about him, and with him in mind certainly, about his greats deeds, and what they believe god would want from men. But people are not perfect. The only perfect being would be god. But he did not write the bible. People did. Since they are not perfect, they can easily get something wrong.

My Bible does not contain an expiration date.

I never said it did. Just that it is outdated.

[Bobby-Joe]

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Seriously all you think about is raping young boys, got a few down in the cellar or something? There are billions more Catholics in Christianity than there are 'True Christians' such as yourself. So I do believe that you are outnumbered. mormon.

Idiot

How many Christians were next to pagans when Christ's was doing His earthly ministry compared to the numbers of Pagans at the time? Christianity is today is in its totality is only 33% of the world population and your precious Catholic church is lucky if it's even a third of that.

Since when does God's TRUTH depend of popularity?

[Thomas Dalton]

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I'm tired of being the one that has to deliver all the evidence for my statements, and you trying to deny everything you stated in the previous posts with ridiculous arguments. I'm forced to conclude you must be a dyslectic, since you're too lazy to check the definition of the word in a thesaurus.
You did convince me that dyslectics aren't retarded, they're just to lazy read anything properly, ergo to lazy to do any proper work and will always live of welfare. Good for you.

About agnostics existing and all, please read the linked thread. I even quoted the relevant definition of that thread, which in no way differed from yours.

If you ever manage to explain to someone how beef stops being a dead animal after it became beef, but a chopped off tallywacker doesn't stop being a dead animal after it became a chopped off tallywacker, I would be utterly surprised. Good luck with that.

If you want to discuss this further, read my arguments again. They contain all information necessary.

[Nitram]

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I'm forced to conclude you must be a dyslectic, since you're too lazy to check the definition of the word in a thesaurus.
You did convince me that dyslectics aren't retarded, they're just to lazy read anything properly, ergo to lazy to do any proper work and will always live of welfare. Good for you.

Well at least I convinced you they're not retards, that's one thing I suppose, and I'll settle for that.

About agnostics existing and all, please read the linked thread. I even quoted the relevant definition of that thread, which in no way differed from yours.

Whatever you say...

If you ever manage to explain to someone how beef stops being a dead animal after it became beef, but a chopped off tallywacker doesn't stop being a dead animal after it became a chopped off tallywacker, I would be utterly surprised. Good luck with that.

I never said that, only that it is wrong to cut of a 'tallywacker' in the first place, but oh well.

If you want to discuss this further, read my arguments again. They contain all information necessary.

I think we've argued enough now now.
I don't think we'll ever agree with each other, and religion may perhaps always divide people such as yourself from people like me. Whether that's a good or bad thing only time can tell.

And as for who is right and who is wrong, then that will only be discovered by our own deaths. If you go to Heaven, then obviously you were right, and if not, then I was. We'll see in the end.

Have a nice day sir.

[Nitram]

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Idiot

How many Christians were next to pagans when Christ's was doing His earthly ministry compared to the numbers of Pagans at the time? Christianity is today is in its totality is only 33% of the world population and your precious Catholic church is lucky if it's even a third of that.

Since when does God's TRUTH depend of popularity?

Well I do not know because I was not there.

Answer me one thing though that has always intrigued me; If Jesus is Gods son, (which I do not doubt) then why was he Jewish?
A lot of Christianity is based on a Jewish man who is the son of God...Something I have never understood.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Well I do not know because I was not there.

Answer me one thing though that has always intrigued me; If Jesus is Gods son, (which I do not doubt) then why was he Jewish?
A lot of Christianity is based on a Jewish man who is the son of God...Something I have never understood.

Jesus is not a damned joo. Read THIS.

[Scientia]

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UHH UHH! ME!! ME!!

FAKE AND GAY!
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Wanna know why?
Cause you believe a book that says that it was written by god, it is pretty much the same as if I went out and wrote a book and said I was god.

Also, if you never question anything, you are deluding yourself.

This is soooooo hillarious. Why? Cause the republicans sent US troops to Iraq to eliminate WMD and of course it was just a nice catch that Iraq also has a lot of oil


You are so fucking stupid that you should be beaten up and forced to admit that god is not the fucking creator of the world. If he was, why the fuck would he let the civil war take place? Or let christians fight eachother? And why should he let mankind become all other religions? If god does exist and is such a dumbass as you make him, then he is really bad at his job. He even let his son get betrayed, that is called true love.


Darwin FTW, you guys burn in what you call hell.

[Jack O'fagan]

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UHH UHH! ME!! ME!!

FAKE AND GAY!
'
Wanna know why?
Cause you believe a book that says that it was written by god, it is pretty much the same as if I went out and wrote a book and said I was god.

Also, if you never question anything, you are deluding yourself.

This is soooooo hillarious. Why? Cause the republicans sent US troops to Iraq to eliminate WMD and of course it was just a nice catch that Iraq also has a lot of oil


You are so piffleing stupid that you should be beaten up and forced to admit that god is not the piffleing creator of the world. If he was, why the piffle would he let the civil war take place? Or let christians fight eachother? And why should he let mankind become all other religions? If god does exist and is such a dumbass as you make him, then he is really bad at his job. He even let his son get betrayed, that is called true love.


Darwin FTW, you guys burn in what you call hell.

Welcome friend. Jesus has clearly sent you here because you have something missing on your life. I think if you are honest then you know it to. You do feel that don't you?

What is missing is Jesus. Drop the anger, be honest with yourself and introduce yourself properly. You will much happier.

Jack

[Wide-Open]

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Ggod is not the piffleing creator of the world.

He's not? Then, pray tell, who is?

Darwin FTW

Yeah, that makes sense!

[Owain Hughes]

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@Larni69

why is your only reply to that text, you weren't home schooled? truly read what is in the words, reflect upon it, and please come back with a more insightful retort. I apologies for it coming out without paragraphs, this wasn't copy and pasted but typed out from a book. it was originally typed correctly but came out differently in the post, again i apologies for this. I am not fully religious, but am very open minded to the possibility, and have a lot of true christian in my life, some of which actually work for the church itself. I am on this website to see all areas of christian views to see if it the life i want. but with some of the closed minded attitudes on here im not sure it is!

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=4474

held within this post are some of the most RIDICULOUS things ive EVER seen! don't trust 'users of big numbers' ? WHY?!!?? as soon as you create a number system, which within its very nature should be infinite! a light year, is simply the distance light travels in a year? what is so 'satanic' about that? is light and its behavior now some how 'satanic'? science doesn't make the 'laws' it mearly observes and studies them!

“I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.” John 8:12.

I am NOT an atheist! and if you reply to this message simply with hatred or with 'hes not home schooled' rather than a thought out , logical and christian reply i will be disappointed.

We were all created by GOD , we are ALL gods children, celebrate the enormous variety of life god created, ALL creeds, colours and believes! never forget that god made it all!

[Redeemed Papist]

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Why do you think God was lying?
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[Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.]

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http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=4474

held within this post are some of the most RIDICULOUS things ive EVER seen! don't trust 'users of big numbers' ? WHY?!!?? as soon as you create a number system, which within its very nature should be infinite! a light year, is simply the distance light travels in a year? what is so 'satanic' about that? is light and its behavior now some how 'satanic'? science doesn't make the 'laws' it mearly observes and studies them!

See this is where you start to get on the slippery road to Satan's Lair, my friend. Certainly no one is claiming that numbers themselves are Satanic. Numbers are only a tool (similar to guns, in fact). When I say I love Jesus 10 billion, trillion times more than anything else in this world, that isn't Satanic! However, to say that "the sun is 10 billion years old" is propagating the idea that Jesus didn't create the earth 6,000 years ago. That is heretical, and of course Satanic. It's really all about the purpose of the numbers. I believe what the Original Poster was claiming was that people who trot out absurd numbers like "trees evolved over 10 million years" are people who shouldn't be trusted, as they simply take a reasonable argument and make it absurd by claiming numbers that are clearly untrue.

“I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.” John 8:12.

I am NOT an atheist! and if you reply to this message simply with hatred or with 'hes not home schooled' rather than a thought out , logical and christian reply i will be disappointed.

We were all created by GOD , we are ALL gods children, celebrate the enormous variety of life god created, ALL creeds, colours and believes! never forget that god made it all!

While I think that your heart may be in the right place, I notice that you have some serious deficiencies regarding your spelling and grammar. Usually, True Christians(tm) make an attempt to capitalize our Lord's Name: God's Children. We also don't put in extraneous "u"s in "color". And above all, we don't tolerate "all creeds" or whatever "believes" are -- even more than the number problem, tolerating all belief systems is super Satanic!!

I will pray for you my friend. You were clearly brought here for a reason, and I hope God is working through us to get you back on the straight and narrow

[Dr Laurence Niles]

@Larni69

why is your only reply to that text, you weren't home schooled? truly read what is in the words, reflect upon it, and please come back with a more insightful retort. I apologies for it coming out without paragraphs, this wasn't copy and pasted but typed out from a book. it was originally typed correctly but came out differently in the post, again i apologies for this. I am not fully religious, but am very open minded to the possibility, and have a lot of true christian in my life, some of which actually work for the church itself. I am on this website to see all areas of christian views to see if it the life i want. but with some of the closed minded attitudes on here im not sure it is!

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=4474

held within this post are some of the most RIDICULOUS things ive EVER seen! don't trust 'users of big numbers' ? WHY?!!?? as soon as you create a number system, which within its very nature should be infinite! a light year, is simply the distance light travels in a year? what is so 'satanic' about that? is light and its behavior now some how 'satanic'? science doesn't make the 'laws' it mearly observes and studies them!

“I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.” John 8:12.

I am NOT an atheist! and if you reply to this message simply with hatred or with 'hes not home schooled' rather than a thought out , logical and christian reply i will be disappointed.

We were all created by GOD , we are ALL gods children, celebrate the enormous variety of life god created, ALL creeds, colours and believes! never forget that god made it all!

What are you talking about? I have no idea which 'text' you are referring to and you link takes me to another fora entirely.

Do you expect me to to search through two threads to find the post you're referring to?

Praise His name!
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[Owain Hughes]

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@Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.

Thank you for posting back to me with some incite full views and opinions on what i wrote. i appreciate it! I can more than understand why you would like me to use capitals when typing 'God' and shall do so from now on. my apologies for that. I'm British and that's the way to spell colour when using the English language, which I believe we are currently doing! but that's really a null point as its just a tolerable difference between us I can deal with .

I see where you are coming from as regards to the post about numbers, but it has been put to me by true believers that within the creation story, a 'day' may not be what 'we' would term to be so, and could infact of been a 'day' to 'God' which could have been 10 million years? im not sure what your opinion on that is?

again i appreciate your comments and thank you for seeing my heart is in the right place, I do not wish to say anything 'bad' about God in the slightest but just like to raise certain points to clarify my faith and hopefully guide me to enlightenment.

[Owain Hughes]

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Larni69 ,

I then considered attentively what i was; and i was that while i could feign that i had no body, that there was no world, and that no place existed for me to be in, i could not fiegn that i was not; on the contrary, from the mere fact that i thought of doubting about other truths it evidentally and certainly followed that i existed. on the other hand, if i had mearly ceased to be conscious, even if everything else that i had ever imagined had been true, i had no reason to belive that i should still have existed. From this i recognized that i was a substance whose whole essence or nature is to be conscious and whose being requires no place and depends on no material thing.

Thus this self, that is to say the soul, by which i am what i am, is entirely distinct from the body, and is even more easily known; and even if the body were not there at all, the soul would be just what it is. After this i considered in general what is requisite to the truth and certainty of a proposition; for since i had just found one that i knew to have this nature, i thought i must also know what this certainty consists in. Observing that there is nothing at all in the statement 'i am thinking, therefore i exist' which assures me i speak the truth, except that i see very clearly that in order to think i must exist, i judged that i could take it as a general rule that whatever we conceive very clearly and very distinctly is true; only there is some difficulty in discerning what conceptions really are distinct. Next, i reflected on the fact that i was doubting, and that consequently my being was not wholly perfect (for i saw clearly that knowledge was a greater perfection than doubt).

I decided to enquire whence i learnt to think of something more perfect than myself, and i recognized it as evident that this idea must come from some nature that was really more perfect. As regard my ideas of many other external things-the sky, the earth, light, heat, and innumerable other subjects- i was not so much concerned to know there source; for i discovered nothing in them that appeared to make them higher than myself.

if they were true, they might depend on my own nature, in so far as it had some degree of perfection; if not, i might have got them from nothingness- they might be in me because i had some defect. But this could not hold good for the idea of an exsistance more perfect than my own; it was manifestly impossible to have got this from nothingness; and since it is no less contradictory that the more perfect should follow from and depend on the less perfect, then that something should proceed from nothing, like wise i could not have got it from myself.

so the only possibility left was to hold that the idea had been put in me by a nature really more perfect than myself and infact possessing all the perfections of which i could have any idea; that is to say, to explain myself in one word, by god. And to this i added that since i knew of some perfections that i did not posses, i was not the only being in exsistance, but that there must needs be some other more perfect being on whom i depended, and from whom i had received all that i had.

this was the original text you commented on, it is the writing of none other than 'Rene Descartes' i'm sure you've heard of him, being home schooled and all!

and this is a link to the thread about who not to trust, but it is largely irrelevant now as a fellow member of this forum has kindly given a balanced argument for what was was said.

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=4474

the first post here entitled 'A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy'