[Didymus Much]

Re: Giant Asian hornets

Genesis 1:26-28 clearly states that all of mankind has dominion over animals.


26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth....

Errr, not so clearly. That snippet may be only talking about Adam and Eve. You're assuming that it extends to all mankind (and, quite specifically, you).

...To suggest otherwise such as you just did is an affront to god is it not?

No, it's just an affront to you personally.
As many, many other places in the Bible make it quite clear that God's benefits are only for the faithful (ie. those that follow His instructions perfectly and to the letter, like the True Christians™ do), I think you'd be better off showing that you do, too. Losing the attitude and asking them to change you stupid name might be good starts.

[Basilissa]

Re: Giant Asian hornets

Genesis 1:26-28 clearly states that all of mankind has dominion over animals.

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

I am not sure what is it the point that you are making here? Yes, God gave them (Adam and Eve) the dominion over all animals. What's the connection to whatever moot point you were trying and failing to make?

To suggest otherwise such as you just did is an affront to god is it not? This is why women are not allowed to speak, whenever they do they are sure to embarrass themselves

Are you a girl? You seem seriously feeble minded.

Before you continue to embarrass yourself, may I recommend that you begin to read the Holy Bible?

[Alex112]

Re: Giant Asian hornets

In no way did I contradict my first statement brother, my first statement I theorised it was Gods will to kill native bees. Humans are not God nor should we attempt to play such a role.

It is not Gods will these hornets will destroy the honey bee population and I'm suspicious that they came from Asia due to the chinese coronavirus

[Didymus Much]

Re: Giant Asian hornets

It is not Gods will these hornets will destroy the honey bee population...

What kind of wimpy, non-omnipotent "god" do you worship?

[Alex112]

Re: Giant Asian hornets

What kind of wimpy, non-omnipotent "god" do you worship?

God made honey bees to do what they do...make honey and they are beneficial to the environment. Giant asian hornets will hurt out bee populations why dont you understand this?

And honestly I think they were spread here by asia on purpose

[Alex112]

Re: Giant Asian hornets

I have a clean limbed Nephew who likes honey and he is terrified of these little monsters.

But if you think about it, it makes sense that Jesus should create ex nihilo them in the East where everyone worships devils and demons or some such, rather than in a God fearing American country.

That they are coming to this great nation is another reason we need Mr Trump and Jesus' help to build a wall to stop these pests once and for all.

My eager young Nephew (can you believe he's nearly shaving?) says that in the East the bees stop the hornets by clambering all over the hornet in some kind of lesbian orgy (he says that the bees and hornets are all women) but the hornets are straight but the Eastern bees are gay so that kills the hornet.

In America we don't have gay bees so they have no defence against the hornet. Some people have been saying that we should look into turning our bees gay so they can fend off the hornets but A) that would make Jesus very unhappy


Leviticus 18:22 "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."
Leviticus 20:13 "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
Romans 1:26-27 "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."

and 2: who wants to eat gay honey?

Other folks say that this is just a way to attack Jesus buy forcing people to eat gay honey in the hopes that it will turn people gay (which is stupid because you can't 'turn' people gay- it's a choice).

Maybe it's safest just to eat jelly.

YIC

That actually does make sense god would send them to asia and other places like asia to punish them but them coming to the us I think is an asia plot against our bee populations


I dont blame your nephew. I'm really scared about these Hornets. It's not gonna be good if they spread :/

[Isabella White]

Re: Giant Asian hornets

That actually does make sense god would send them to asia and other places like asia to punish them but them coming to the us I think is an asia plot against our bee populations

I dont blame your nephew. I'm really scared about these Hornets. It's not gonna be good if they spread :/

Dear Miss Alex: I will not pretend that I have not been irked by your spelling and grammatical errors, but I will not harp on about it. But, I cannot let this pass: why on Earth did you not capitalize "god", but yet you managed to find the Shift key to capitalize "Hornets"? If I were in your shoes, I would be very concerned about what Almighty might do with those hornets!

Deuteronomy 7:20 "Moreover the Lord thy God will send the hornet among them, until they that are left, and hide themselves from thee, be destroyed."

[Didymus Much]

Re: Giant Asian hornets

...Giant asian hornets will hurt out bee populations why dont you understand this?...

I understand that perfectly well.

My comment was in relation to your claim that something happened that was not God's will.

God is portrayed in the Bible as omniscient and omnipotent. What those big words mean is that He knows everything that has happened, is happening, or will happen in the future, and He can do anything.

Accepting that God has those properties leads to the notion that nothing happens without God's approval. If He did not want something to happen, He'd change it. Therefore, if something happens, it's because God wanted to it happen. If you do not understand why God does something, that is your problem, and that is ALSO WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS:

Isaiah 55:9 "For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts."

[Basilissa]

Re: Giant Asian hornets

God made honey bees to do what they do...make honey and they are beneficial to the environment. Giant asian hornets will hurt out bee populations why dont you understand this?

Dear Alex, Mr. NotSoMuch is an atheist, which explains why he is clueless most of the time.

Nonetheless, he is right in this case. God created the bees to pollinate plants and make honey, God created Asian hornets to kill the bees. Everything that happens is God's Will. If you don't accept that, don't you dare call yourself a Christian.

And honestly I think they were spread here by asia on purpose

Of course. Everything God does has a purpose. Case in point:

Deuteronomy 7:20 "Moreover the Lord thy God will send the hornet among them, until they that are left, and hide themselves from thee, be destroyed."

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Giant Asian hornets

I would to point out in the least didactic way a Scripture referring to Noah and his children (& grandchildren at the time) and all their descendants:

Genesis 9:1-2 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth. And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.

I have highlighted the salient clause in blue (if that is not oxymoronic) but there's something else I often notice with eco-fascist types, apart from the double standards and general inconsistency, which is that for their "evolution" to work stronger species necessarily displace weaker, all part of Nature's Rich Tapestry™ which in this case is a hornet/bee struggle with an outcome yet to be determined by whatever selective pressure applies, a model for which cannot be devised that's less complex than the thing being modelled. Russia tried it with communism. Sure, they had a model for society, but critical elements were overlooked so Moscow became a parasitic entity requiring the entire Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact to support it. Those more equal than others occupied the palaces, the former occupants were taken out and shot. Many eco-terrorists espouse Marxist models of society and yet oppose its most fundamental tenet: that the weak give way to the powerful.

It's the same with Darwinism, they'd tell us. Without crises the less well adapted (and which adaptation that is can't be modelled, for instance how would you factor in comets striking the earth? nearby supernovæ? etc.) so if some aliens had stepped in to save the eukaryotic ancestor of pine trees and elephants, where would elephants be now? Or pine trees? OR HUMANS?

. .Trees
. .BY JOYCE KILMER

I think that I shall never see
A poem lovely as a tree.

A tree whose hungry mouth is prest
Against the earth’s sweet flowing breast;

A tree that looks at God all day,
And lifts her leafy arms to pray;

A tree that may in Summer wear
A nest of robins in her hair;

Upon whose bosom snow has lain;
Who intimately lives with rain.

Poems are made by fools like me,
But only God can make a tree.

[Alex112]

Re: Giant Asian hornets

Dear Alex, Mr. NotSoMuch is an atheist, which explains why he is clueless most of the time.

Nonetheless, he is right in this case. God created the bees to pollinate plants and make honey, God created Asian hornets to kill the bees. Everything that happens is God's Will. If you don't accept that, don't you dare call yourself a Christian.

Of course. Everything God does has a purpose. Case in point:

I'm sorry but these things are a plot to weaken our honey production and I think they were spread on purpose to kick us down.


These hornets are not like yellow jackets there not like mud daubers they arent honey bees or bumblebees


These are from Asia and they are poisonous beings that will wreck our honey production


Bumblebees honey bees bumblee bees and even yellow jackets are beneficial Bumblebees pollinate flowers. Honey bees make honey which is to this day good capital for the United States and are beneficial to Earth


Yellow Jackets the meanest and cruelest ones of all even have a reason to exist as they eat other pests and stop those pests from wrecking stuff


Giant Asian Hornets ARE NOT BENEFICIAL AT ALL. I'm not saying God didnt create them for no reason he did create them for whatever that may be but they are not good for the united states they will wreck our honey production. And to be honest I think some country released them as a plot against our food and honey production and released them to harm people. God didn't create them to cause havoc on the united states some country let them in they are not good news at all and whoever did it wants our honey production to stall.

[Basilissa]

Re: Giant Asian hornets

I'm sorry but these things are a plot to weaken our honey production and I think they were spread on purpose to kick us down.

Which part of "God creates everything" don't you understand, sweetie?

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

Can we at least agree that they are a form of a plague?

Here is what the Holy Bible says about plagues:

Exodus 9:14 For I will at this time send all my plagues upon thine heart, and upon thy servants, and upon thy people; that thou mayest know that there is none like me in all the earth.

Leviticus 26:21 And if ye walk contrary unto me, and will not hearken unto me; I will bring seven times more plagues upon you according to your sins.

Deuteonomy 29:22 So that the generation to come of your children that shall rise up after you, and the stranger that shall come from a far land, shall say, when they see the plagues of that land, and the sicknesses which the LORD hath laid upon it;

Revelation 11:6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

These hornets are not like yellow jackets there not like mud daubers they arent honey bees or bumblebees

Thank you for the lesson in biology, sweetie. Oh, you forgot to mention that they aren't mason bees nor carpenter bees, either.

These are from Asia and they are poisonous beings that will wreck our honey production

So now you are saying they are poisoning the bees? I thought they were decapitating them.

Bumblebees honey bees bumblee bees and even yellow jackets are beneficial Bumblebees pollinate flowers. Honey bees make honey which is to this day good capital for the United States and are beneficial to Earth

Yellow Jackets the meanest and cruelest ones of all even have a reason to exist as they eat other pests and stop those pests from wrecking stuff

Have you ever stopped to think that hornets have a reason to exist, too? Such as getting rid of the africanized killer bees!

Also, please note that wasps/hornets eat other insects as well, such as grasshoppers. Sure, a single grasshopper is sort of cute, but get a swarm and you have a locusts plague like the one they are dealing with in Africa right now. Have you ever thought that maybe God created these hornets to prevent locusts?!

You are so mean to God, it's unbelievable. He creates an intricate fascinating creature, and you just sit there and criticize Him. Have you ever created a living being?!? I don't think so.

Giant Asian Hornets ARE NOT BENEFICIAL AT ALL. I'm not saying God didnt create them for no reason he did create them for whatever that may be but they are not good for the united states they will wreck our honey production.

Ah, and here is the question: which "good" is more important? Is what good from people's point of view more important than what is good from God's point of view? I'm sure the people who were trying to save their children from the Flood were all like: "this Flood is horrible and NOT BENEFICIAL AT ALL." Do you agree with those who were drowned in the Flood, or do you agree with God?

Caution: wrong answer will cost your eternal life.

And to be honest I think some country released them as a plot against our food and honey production and released them to harm people.

Why do you hate God so much?

God didn't create them to cause havoc on the united states some country let them in they are not good news at all and whoever did it wants our honey production to stall.

I don't know what sort of a god you believe in, but my God knows everything and creates everything.

Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the Lord hath not done it?

[Alex112]

Re: Giant Asian hornets

Which part of "God creates everything" don't you understand, sweetie?

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

Can we at least agree that they are a form of a plague?

Here is what the Holy Bible says about plagues:

Exodus 9:14 For I will at this time send all my plagues upon thine heart, and upon thy servants, and upon thy people; that thou mayest know that there is none like me in all the earth.

Leviticus 26:21 And if ye walk contrary unto me, and will not hearken unto me; I will bring seven times more plagues upon you according to your sins.

Deuteonomy 29:22 So that the generation to come of your children that shall rise up after you, and the stranger that shall come from a far land, shall say, when they see the plagues of that land, and the sicknesses which the LORD hath laid upon it;

Revelation 11:6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

Thank you for the lesson in biology, sweetie. Oh, you forgot to mention that they aren't mason bees nor carpenter bees, either.

So now you are saying they are poisoning the bees? I thought they were decapitating them.

Have you ever stopped to think that hornets have a reason to exist, too? Such as getting rid of the africanized killer bees!

Also, please note that wasps/hornets eat other insects as well, such as grasshoppers. Sure, a single grasshopper is sort of cute, but get a swarm and you have a locusts plague like the one they are dealing with in Africa right now. Have you ever thought that maybe God created these hornets to prevent locusts?!

You are so mean to God, it's unbelievable. He creates an intricate fascinating creature, and you just sit there and criticize Him. Have you ever created a living being?!? I don't think so.
Ah, and here is the question: which "good" is more important? Is what good from people's point of view more important than what is good from God's point of view? I'm sure the people who were trying to save their children from the Flood were all like: "this Flood is horrible and NOT BENEFICIAL AT ALL." Do you agree with those who were drowned in the Flood, or do you agree with God?

Caution: wrong answer will cost your eternal life.

Why do you hate God so much?

I don't know what sort of a god you believe in, but my God knows everything and creates everything.

Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the Lord hath not done it?

I love God. I'm defending God right now. God didnt release them in the united states An Asian country did it as an evil satanic plot but yeah God made them and I know that


I cant really think of a hornet that's beneficial except for the one reason you mentioned...yes they do get rid of those Africanized bees but...that's pretty much it....they are more harmful than good.

[Basilissa]

Re: Giant Asian hornets

I love God. I'm defending God right now. God didnt release them in the united states

How do you know that?

An Asian country did it as an evil satanic plot but yeah God made them and I know that

Indeed, God made the hornets because He creates everything that is good and everything that is evil. I'm glad we agree!

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Giant Asian hornets

I love God.

You seem to be compounding "nature" with "God" to produce an emollient paste for softening the message of Salvation. On the one hand we have Nature, by whose hand all that we see has come to pass. Sure, the naturalist explains, there are horizons at the largest (incomprehensibly gigantic) and the smallest (incomprehensibly minute) scales beyond which classical descriptions break down. Beyond our ken. Which is what incomprehensibility means. So no surprise there.

Within this limited Nature however standards apply and predictions can be made. Tested. Refuted or confirmed. This is the arena in which hornets eat bees, bees become extinct, humans invent clockwork bees (at Harvard v.s.) and then the sun explodes. Big deal. First there was nothing then everything became extinct and there were no more stars. When you refer to the evil of hornets you are constrained in this bubble, declaring whatever gave rise to humans to be evil because it stands on the shoulders of mass extinction after mass extinction over and over again. And when the final wizened earthling wilts on yet undreamed of stars the embryonic microbe stirs.

Defending God means standing up against observations contradicting what He has revealed. This is not a new idea.

Joshua 24:12-15 I sent the hornet before you, which drave them out from before you, even the two kings of the Amorites; but not with thy sword, nor with thy bow. And I have given you a land for which ye did not labour, and cities which ye built not, and ye dwell in them; of the vineyards and oliveyards which ye planted not do ye eat. Now therefore fear the LORD, and serve him in sincerity and in truth: and put away the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the flood, and in Egypt; and serve ye the LORD. And

if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve

whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.