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  • Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

    Originally posted by Pastor Billy-Reuben View Post
    Praise the Lord! He has shown me how to prove scientifically that the sun is no more than 500 miles overhead.

    Here is the proof:

    To start off with, the sun is hot enough to glow yellow, so we can use Wein's Displacement Law to determine the temperature.

    Wein's Displacement Law:
    Peak Wavelength in meters = displacement constant / temperature in Kelvin

    Yellow light has a wavelength between 570nm and 580nm, so we'll solve for 575nm. Since we are working with nanometers rather than meters, we'll simplify the math by multiplying the displacement constant by 10^9.

    575 = 2897768.5/T
    575 * T = 2897768.5
    T = 2897768.5/575
    T = 5039.6° K (8611.6° F)

    So the sun is about 5039.6° Kelvin.

    Now, the average temperature of the earth is 59° F, or about 288° K. The mean temperature gradient of the troposphere is 6° K/km, so let's solve for the distance.

    d = (5039.6 - 288)/6
    d = 791.9 km (491.1 miles)

    There you have it. The sun is roughly 491.1 miles overhead. Depending on the exact shade of yellow (whether it's closer to 570nm or 580nm), this figure could be off by as much as 5 miles. However, I don't have a spectrometer handy, and I'm willing to live with an uncertainty of ±5 miles. It's not like I'm planning to visit anytime soon -- my shoes would melt .

    The LORD is so good to me. Praise the sweet name of Jesus.

    Pastor Billy-Reuben
    The sun is white, not yellow. It's lights are bent and reflected and refracted through any lens that views it. Our eyes consists of a lens film and so, not only due to this, but also to the fact it is refracted through the atmosphere and water droplets, it comes out different colors, red in the morning, yellow during the day, orange at night, et cetera. The ocean doesn't help either.
    I will punish ... all such as are clothed with strange apparel. -- Zephaniah 1:8

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    • Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

      Originally posted by Dredgeretk View Post
      The sun is white, not yellow. It's lights are bent and reflected and refracted through any lens that views it. Our eyes consists of a lens film and so, not only due to this, but also to the fact it is refracted through the atmosphere and water droplets, it comes out different colors, red in the morning, yellow during the day, orange at night, et cetera. The ocean doesn't help either.
      And another scientist whose theories don't match reality.

      If I understand refraction correctly (and I do) it only occurs on the boundary of two materials. So if your theory is true then a white light bulb in my living room (the light of which also has to go through the atmosphere and my eyes to reach me) should appear in the same colors as the sun, red, yellow, orange or black depending on the time of the day.

      Does the willfully denial of reality never cause you a headache? Does the senselessness of your thinking never cause you to think about finally accepting Jesus and turning your life around?
      Leviticus 26:15-16
      And if ye shall despise my statutes, or if your soul abhor my judgments, so that ye will not do all my commandments, but that ye break my covenant: I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it.

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      • Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

        Originally posted by Tymygy View Post
        OHHHHH THE IRONY!!!!

        Our science books are based off of evidence, your book is based off of some men in the desert. They thought the earth was flat, they thought heaven was in the clouds. The age of science helps us find the truth, not stupid un-scienctific claims like this post.
        Science tells you what you want to hear. It is satan's tool to sway people away from God.

        The men AND the desert you speak of, are proof of God's creation. Did science create the desert? NO! Deserts have been around a lot longer than science has!

        Your science books merely serve to veil God's Truth. The sooner you realize that and give up religiously following your stupid secular science theories (and that is ALL they are - theories) the better off you will be.

        YIC

        Mrs Phebe Dewitt.




        There's Jesus here,
        Just see what He offers me....
        Down here my sins forgiven,
        Up there a home in heaven
        Praise God, That's the way for me!!

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        • Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

          Science is for queers, that's just a damn fact.

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          • Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

            Originally posted by Dredgeretk View Post
            The sun is white, not yellow.
            You must be color blind. Last time I looked the sun was yellow

            Originally posted by Dredgeretk View Post
            It's lights are bent and reflected and refracted through any lens that views it.
            If that is so, then why are pictures in photographs not bent and out of shape.

            Originally posted by Dredgeretk View Post
            Our eyes consists of a lens film
            Is this film made by Kodak

            Originally posted by Dredgeretk View Post
            and so, not only due to this, but also to the fact it is refracted through the atmosphere and water droplets, it comes out different colors, red in the morning, yellow during the day, orange at night, et cetera.
            I find this hard to believe. The colors of things do not change when it rains. Green leaves are still green when it rains.

            Originally posted by Dredgeretk View Post
            The ocean doesn't help either.
            What has the ocean got to do with the sun.
            Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
            Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
            Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
            Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
            Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
            Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.

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            • Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

              Originally posted by Pastor Billy-Reuben View Post
              Praise the Lord! He has shown me how to prove scientifically that the sun is no more than 500 miles overhead.

              Here is the proof:

              To start off with, the sun is hot enough to glow yellow, so we can use Wein's Displacement Law to determine the temperature.

              Wein's Displacement Law:
              Peak Wavelength in meters = displacement constant / temperature in Kelvin

              Yellow light has a wavelength between 570nm and 580nm, so we'll solve for 575nm. Since we are working with nanometers rather than meters, we'll simplify the math by multiplying the displacement constant by 10^9.

              575 = 2897768.5/T
              575 * T = 2897768.5
              T = 2897768.5/575
              T = 5039.6° K (8611.6° F)

              So the sun is about 5039.6° Kelvin.

              Now, the average temperature of the earth is 59° F, or about 288° K. The mean temperature gradient of the troposphere is 6° K/km, so let's solve for the distance.

              d = (5039.6 - 288)/6
              d = 791.9 km (491.1 miles)

              There you have it. The sun is roughly 491.1 miles overhead. Depending on the exact shade of yellow (whether it's closer to 570nm or 580nm), this figure could be off by as much as 5 miles. However, I don't have a spectrometer handy, and I'm
              The LORD is so good to me. Praise the sweet name of Jesus.
              willing to live with an uncertainty of ±5 miles. It's not like I'm planning to visit anytime soon -- my shoes would melt .

              Pastor Billy-Reuben
              the sun gives off white light not yellow light... if it gave off yellow light a white car or tshirt would take on a yellow tint..

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              • Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

                Originally posted by brother johnII View Post
                the sun gives off white light not yellow light... if it gave off yellow light a white car or tshirt would take on a yellow tint..
                You are absurd. How do you explain yellow cars and t-shirts, then?

                Science is the biggest scam perpetrated to send people to hell since a snake began talking to Eve.

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                • Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

                  Originally posted by H. Montague Worthington View Post
                  Science is the biggest scam perpetrated to send people to hell since a snake began talking to Eve.
                  That is a horribly flawed logic to believe in sir.

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                  • Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

                    So true, where in the bible does it say that there was actually a snake talking to Eve!

                    As for yellow things, I'd say they don't reflect all the green and red wavelengths as well as white things.

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                    • Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

                      Originally posted by Ksevio View Post
                      So true, where in the bible does it say that there was actually a snake talking to Eve!
                      That would be Genesis 3.

                      1Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
                      2And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
                      3But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
                      4And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
                      5For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
                      Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.


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                      • Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

                        Guess a serpent is a snake. But it did call God out on the fruit killing her.

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                        • Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

                          Originally posted by Ksevio View Post
                          Guess a serpent is a snake. But it did call God out on the fruit killing her.
                          Really? So Eve didn't die? She's still hiding out somewhere?

                          Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
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                          • Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

                            Dear Ksevio,

                            Originally posted by Ksevio View Post
                            Guess a serpent is a snake. But it did call God out on the fruit killing her.
                            Whet you seem to be overlooking is God's almost infinite patience. I assure you Eve died after eating from the forbidden fruit. It just took a few years.

                            Yours in Christ,

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                            know that I have absolutely nothing to offer you.

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                            • Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

                              Originally posted by Ksevio View Post
                              Guess a serpent is a snake. But it did call God out on the fruit killing her.
                              Yes, I suppose God, in His infinite mercy, decided not to kill them. He merely cursed mankind for all eternity to painful childbearing and hard labor.
                              Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.


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                              • Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

                                Originally posted by H. Montague Worthington View Post
                                You are absurd. How do you explain yellow cars and t-shirts, then?

                                Science is the biggest scam perpetrated to send people to hell since a snake began talking to Eve.
                                but i tell you my brother if not for science such beautiful things as super sized McDonalds meals and light bulbs so we may go to the toilet at night illuminated, how can you argue with this?

                                a yellow car is just like any other automobile, but this goes back to perception, one individual may see color differently to another. this sparks the argument of what is color? how can it be defined, there is a general concensus that yellow is yellow, white is white, MY WIFE JUST BLED ON THE CARPET, anyway someone who is blind might see color, not. but that is beside the point. what im getting at here is that color is subjective, just like belief.

                                and tell me fine sir how does the internet function?

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