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  • #601
    Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

    Originally posted by Lisa H View Post
    If the sun was made from hydrogen and helium it would just float away.
    Helium floats because it's lighter than the air surrounding it. There's no air in space.

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    • #602
      Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

      Originally posted by James R Miller View Post
      Helium floats because it's lighter than the air surrounding it. There's no air in space.
      Does not mean it still will not float away.
      Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
      Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
      Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
      Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
      Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
      Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.

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      • #603
        Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

        Originally posted by Lisa H View Post
        Does not mean it still will not float away.
        Helium is heavier than nothing, therefore it won't float.

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        • #604
          Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

          Originally posted by James R Miller View Post
          Helium is heavier than nothing, therefore it won't float.
          So what is holding it up in space then.
          Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
          Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
          Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
          Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
          Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
          Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.

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          • #605
            Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

            Originally posted by Lisa H View Post
            So what is holding it up in space then.
            No gravity in space. What's holding the Earth up? Nothing.

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            • #606
              Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

              Originally posted by James R Miller View Post
              No gravity in space. What's holding the Earth up? Nothing.
              That is not answer. So how can nothing hold up something. Everything needs something to hold it up.

              If you do not know, just say so.
              Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
              Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
              Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
              Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
              Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
              Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.

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              • #607
                Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

                Originally posted by James R Miller View Post
                No gravity in space. What's holding the Earth up? Nothing.
                No gravity in space? Then what keeps all the objects we see within 500 miles intact? Would not the violent activity you theorize in conjecture blow everything into a blur with no distinction as discrete bodies?

                You work so hard at hating our Lord rather than just accept the gifts He gave you for entertainment. Have you no respect for His creation?

                In Jesus!
                Matthew 19:14 "But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven."

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                • #608
                  Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

                  Originally posted by Lisa H View Post
                  That is not answer. So how can nothing hold up something. Everything needs something to hold it up.

                  If you do not know, just say so.
                  For something to fall their needs to be gravity.

                  Originally posted by Brother Harold Porter View Post
                  No gravity in space? Then what keeps all the objects we see within 500 miles intact? Would not the violent activity you theorize in conjecture blow everything into a blur with no distinction as discrete bodies?

                  You work so hard at hating our Lord rather than just accept the gifts He gave you for entertainment. Have you no respect for His creation?

                  In Jesus!
                  What gives you the idea I hate the Lord? Also if nuclear fusion created a large enough explosion to cause the sun to move around, (hint: it doesn't) how would gravity help with that?

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                  • #609
                    Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

                    Originally posted by James R Miller View Post
                    For something to fall their needs to be gravity.
                    Gravity is supposed to make things stick to the earth. So why has the sun and stars not stuck to the earth.
                    Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
                    Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
                    Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
                    Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
                    Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
                    Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.

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                    • #610
                      Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

                      Originally posted by James R Miller View Post
                      What gives you the idea I hate the Lord? Also if nuclear fusion created a large enough explosion to cause the sun to move around, (hint: it doesn't) how would gravity help with that?
                      How could the sun remain a disc if NOT for gravity keeping the circumference intact? Your theory of nuclear fusion would explode the sun into every imaginable geometric shape, flung to the far reaches of our solar system, if not for gravity to keep it intact.

                      Did you complete grade school?
                      Matthew 19:14 "But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven."

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                      • #611
                        Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

                        Originally posted by Brother Harold Porter View Post
                        How could the sun remain a disc if NOT for gravity keeping the circumference intact? Your theory of nuclear fusion would explode the sun into every imaginable geometric shape, flung to the far reaches of our solar system, if not for gravity to keep it intact.

                        Did you complete grade school?
                        The Bible says nothing about the sun being a disk

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                        • #612
                          Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

                          Originally posted by Pastor Billy-Reuben View Post
                          Praise the Lord! He has shown me how to prove scientifically that the sun is no more than 500 miles overhead.

                          Here is the proof:

                          To start off with, the sun is hot enough to glow yellow, so we can use Wein's Displacement Law to determine the temperature.

                          Wein's Displacement Law:
                          Peak Wavelength in meters = displacement constant / temperature in Kelvin

                          Yellow light has a wavelength between 570nm and 580nm, so we'll solve for 575nm. Since we are working with nanometers rather than meters, we'll simplify the math by multiplying the displacement constant by 10^9.

                          575 = 2897768.5/T
                          575 * T = 2897768.5
                          T = 2897768.5/575
                          T = 5039.6° K (8611.6° F)

                          So the sun is about 5039.6° Kelvin.

                          Now, the average temperature of the earth is 59° F, or about 288° K. The mean temperature gradient of the troposphere is 6° K/km, so let's solve for the distance.

                          d = (5039.6 - 288)/6
                          d = 791.9 km (491.1 miles)

                          There you have it. The sun is roughly 491.1 miles overhead. Depending on the exact shade of yellow (whether it's closer to 570nm or 580nm), this figure could be off by as much as 5 miles. However, I don't have a spectrometer handy, and I'm willing to live with an uncertainty of ±5 miles. It's not like I'm planning to visit anytime soon -- my shoes would melt .

                          The LORD is so good to me. Praise the sweet name of Jesus.

                          Pastor Billy-Reuben
                          It is a sin to use science over the word of god.
                          Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children,and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

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                          • #613
                            Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

                            Originally posted by Lisa H View Post
                            Gravity is supposed to make things stick to the earth. So why has the sun and stars not stuck to the earth.
                            Because Earth isn't the only body of mass with gravity, the sun has it's own gravity as does Jupiter and Mars. The moon has it's own gravity that has an effect on the tides of Earth. Gravity from several different things act on each other to hold them up.

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                            • #614
                              Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

                              Originally posted by JeffreyRobertson View Post
                              Because Earth isn't the only body of mass with gravity, the sun has it's own gravity as does Jupiter and Mars. The moon has it's own gravity that has an effect on the tides of Earth. Gravity from several different things act on each other to hold them up.
                              Blahblahblah. Where's Jesus in your argument? Are you seriously going to claim that you know more than He does?
                              Who Will Jesus Damn?

                              Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                              Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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                              • #615
                                Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

                                Originally posted by Cathy O Lic View Post
                                It is a sin to use science over the word of god.
                                No, it's a sin to use false science over the word of God. If applied properly, science is completely compatible with the Bible. In fact, many valuable scientific discoveries follow directly from use of the Bible.
                                I take my orders from Jesus H. Christ, supernatural born US citizen

                                Be wary of false Kumbaya Christians who use a highlighter and scissors to read the Bible. God wants us to read the lines, not between the lines. False Christians will go to Hell:
                                Matthew 7:22                                 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
                                Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

                                Asking a Christian to prove God exists is like asking him to prove his phone rings because yours doesn't. Make that call yourself! Dial 0800-get-on-your-knees-and-pray.

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