[flipitdave]

Re: Why all the hate for science?

Of course He could create us all as robots who loved nothing but Him, but what fun is there in being Robots? He wanted to create us with Free Will™, so that we would have the choice between loving and worshipping Him or burning in Hell forever. Think of it as the most serious competition of all time: was there ever a competition that was worth winning if there weren't some losers to make us feel better?

What fun is there in rape, murder, and torture? God created these things, correct? So God would therefore be a sick deity. Also, in regard to extinctions, like dinosaurs or dodo's. Wouldn't that mean God is careless. Why would God create something only to have it become extinct? The answer of course, is he wouldn't, because there is no God. At least no mind-reading, miracle intervening, careless, lazy, sick freak of one.

Also, the notion of people burning in hell make you feel better? So therefore you would support Satan, yes? As you feel he is necessary. Does that mean you worship Satan, because you freely admit you like what he does?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Why all the hate for science?

What fun is there in rape, murder, and torture? God created these things, correct? So God would therefore be a sick deity. Also, in regard to extinctions, like dinosaurs or dodo's. Wouldn't that mean God is careless. Why would God create something only to have it become extinct? The answer of course, is he wouldn't, because there is no God. At least no mind-reading, miracle intervening, careless, lazy, sick freak of one.

Also, the notion of people burning in hell make you feel better? So therefore you would support Satan, yes? As you feel he is necessary. Does that mean you worship Satan, because you freely admit you like what he does?

God created everything, pal. Who else could do the job? Your pal satan can't create a thing.

Proverbs 16:4
The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Joshua 23:15
Therefore it shall come to pass, that as all good things are come upon you, which the LORD your God promised you; so shall the LORD bring upon you all evil things, until he have destroyed you from off this good land which the LORD your God hath given you.

1 Samuel 16:14
But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him.

2 Samuel 12:11
Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy wives before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbour, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun.

1 Kings 9:9
And they shall answer, Because they forsook the LORD their God, who brought forth their fathers out of the land of Egypt, and have taken hold upon other gods, and have worshipped them, and served them: therefore hath the LORD brought upon them all this evil.

2 Kings 22:16
Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will bring evil upon this place, and upon the inhabitants thereof, even all the words of the book which the king of Judah hath read:

[flipitdave]

Re: Why all the hate for science?

We are commanded to hate those that hate God.

Where does the Bible say once to hate? Anybody. In the New Testament. Surely you could make a case that the book of Joshua supports genocide, but isn't the Old Testament mostly the things of Jews? Which Jesus was. And 'Love thy Neighbor' really means love only other Jews. King of Jews right? But define hate, in a biblical sense, like where can I read about hate in the bible.



Where have we broken even one of God's commandments?

Would it not be in violation of the Ten Commandments to worship Jesus?

8 You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
9 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and fourth generation of those who reject me,

If Jesus is God's son. Then Jesus is not God. He would be a creation of God's, but would not be God. In Mark 12:29 Jesus said "Here, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord." The words"our God" indicate that Jesus had a higher God over him, a stronger God than him. Jesus didn't say "Your God". He said "our God" which includes Jesus as the creation of God.
Therefore my point still stands. Worshiping Jesus is breaking a biblical principal.

John 10:30
I and my Father are one.

You are quoting that out of context. The complete passage, starting with John 10:23, reads as follows:
"And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch. Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly. Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me. But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one."




In divinity? In a holy "Trinity"? No! They are one in PURPOSE. Just as no one shall pluck them out of Jesus' hand, so too shall no one pluck them out of God's hand.



Need more proof? Then read:


"Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one."

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Why all the hate for science?

What fun is there in rape, murder, and torture? God created these things, correct? So God would therefore be a sick deity.

Incorrect. God is against murder.

Also, in regard to extinctions, like dinosaurs or dodo's. Wouldn't that mean God is careless. Why would God create something only to have it become extinct?

This has been resolved here

Also, the notion of people burning in hell make you feel better?

It is neither here nor there – you were given the chance to be Saved™ and rejected it – this one’s down to you.

So therefore you would support Satan, yes? As you feel he is necessary.

God created Satan, naturally we oppose him.

[flipitdave]

Re: Why all the hate for science?

God created everything, pal. Who else could do the job? Your pal satan can't create a thing.

What fun is there in rape, murder, and torture? God created these things, correct? So God would therefore be a sick deity. Also, in regard to extinctions, like dinosaurs or dodo's. Wouldn't that mean God is careless. Why would God create something only to have it become extinct? The answer of course, is he wouldn't, because there is no God. At least no mind-reading, miracle intervening, careless, lazy, sick freak of one.

Also, the notion of people burning in hell make you feel better? So therefore you would support Satan, yes? As you feel he is necessary. Does that mean you worship Satan, because you freely admit you like what he does?


Feel free to answer any of these points.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Why all the hate for science?

Would it not be in violation of the Ten Commandments to worship Jesus?


[/I]You are quoting that out of context.

Need more proof? Then read:

Look at the avowed "militant atheist" trying to twist the Hole Word of God to suit his evil intentions! A book he probably uses as a doorstop! Suddenly he's all concerned about True Christians(tm) not understanding God's Holy Word!

[fireflyespitonus]

Re: Why all the hate for science?

The truely sad thing is...you cannot even seem to actuall answer his points. I am not an athiest, so I disgree with him to a point as well...but seriously. Answer his questions without just basically saying "you are wrong"

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Why all the hate for science?

The truely sad thing is...you cannot even seem to actuall answer his points. I am not an athiest, so I disgree with him to a point as well...but seriously. Answer his questions without just basically saying "you are wrong"

Your questions are already answered.
Is this not symptomatic of your problems? People go out of their way to help you understand and then you do not listen!

[flipitdave]

Re: Why all the hate for science?

Incorrect.
God is against murder.

God would not be against murder. As God created murder, he created everything. In the book of Joshua, the command given by God is to completely exterminate "anything that breathes" in the cities in the land to be inherited. Also if God created Satan, he supports Satan. As God creator of everything, could easily destroy everything, if he so chose, as God is OMNIPOTENT correct? Rev. 19:6-
"Omnipotent" means the state of having unlimited power. Thus, God's authority is unlimited.
So God would therefore have power to stop the devil.
But he doesn't. So therefore God is Satan. Why? Because HE created Satan. Therefore, God is either in support of murder, is lazy and doesn't fix the problem, or doesn't care about people. If there was a God of course.

This has been resolved here

Yes, God would be careless then.


It is neither here nor there – you were given the chance to be Saved™ and rejected it – this one’s down to you. God created Satan, naturally we oppose him.

Then you oppose God, as God created Satan. So you would be saying you oppose an act of God. To oppose God, means you disagree with his will. Therefore, you in fact do worship Satan, as you are constantly talking of him-what he does- you are proud of his actions to other religions. Meaning he is neccessary, meaning you need Satan for hell, for being righteous. So de facto you worship what Satan does.

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[JennyD]

Re: Why all the hate for science?

Do you not hate the Muslim religion, or rather, you feel superior to them, as you perceive the Bible to be the only divine truth.

I pity them, because they will all spend eternity burning in the Lake of Fire because they choose to worship a Moon God and follow the teachings of a camel-urine-drinking pedophile instead of following Jesus.

You're trying to turn us from Jesus. Why do you want us to go to Hell?

[flipitdave]

Re: Why all the hate for science?

I pity them, because they will all spend eternity burning in the Lake of Fire because they choose to worship a Moon God and follow the teachings of a camel-urine-drinking pedophile instead of following Jesus.

You're trying to turn us from Jesus. Why do you want us to go to Hell?

Why? God created Muslims. He created everything. Therefore he created Muslims. You in fact are Muslim. Because you worship God. Same God. Different prophet. Jesus is not God, as I have previously expressed. Therefore you hate yourself, or rather, as you put, pity yourself. As you pity Muslims. Who worship the same God.

Hell is God's creation. He created Satan. So either God is lazy, doesn't care about people, or enjoys people in hell. Because God would be Satan, as Satan is Gods creation. As God created everything. So to believe in Satan is to worship Satan. Maybe that was Gods plan all along. Send everybody to hell. Of course there is no hell. As there is no God.

[flipitdave]

Re: Why all the hate for science?

Look at the avowed "militant atheist" trying to twist the Hole Word of God to suit his evil intentions! A book he probably uses as a doorstop! Suddenly he's all concerned about True Christians™ not understanding God's Holy Word!

I didn't twist anything. And unless you can answer a single question I asked you, you concede I am right, because you can not answer, therefore, you would agree.

[JennyD]

Re: Why all the hate for science?

Why? God created Muslims. He created everything. Therefore he created Muslims. You in fact are Muslim. Because you worship God. Same God. Different prophet. Jesus is not God, as I have previously expressed. Therefore you hate yourself, or rather, as you put, pity yourself. As you pity Muslims. Who worship the same God.

Wrong.

Google "moon god allah". You might learn something about the history of Islam, the demon-worship cult which rejects God.

[Wide-Open]

Re: Why all the hate for science?

Why? God created Muslims. He created everything. Therefore he created Muslims. You in fact are Muslim.

He also created the platypus and the lichen. Are you saying we are lichens?

So if we are mooselimbs, can you tell us how many of us have blown themselves up today?

He created you as well. Would that mean we are also atheists with a brain the size of a peanut?

Because you worship God.

Praise, you are starting to make sense!

Same God.

Didn't last long. Nope, that Allah dude doesn't exist. It's a false god.

Different prophet.

Wait. Are we talking gods or are we talking prophets? May I suggest you read up on religion before attacking it. Because at this moment, you are making such a fool out of yourself that even other atheists would notice.

Jesus is not God, as I have previously expressed.

You have been rebuked on that one already. Repeating it makes you sound like an autist, not an atheist.

Therefore you hate yourself, or rather, as you put, pity yourself. As you pity Muslims. Who worship the same God.

Of course we don't pity ourself. We will be sipping a cold one near Jesus' right hand when we'll watch you gargle sulphur.

Hell is God's creation. He created Satan.

Bingo!

So either God is lazy, doesn't care about people, or enjoys people in hell.

I hope your day job doesn't involve "logic".

Maybe that was Gods plan all along. Send everybody to hell. Of course there is no hell. As there is no God.

So someone who didn't exist - according to you - had this plan all along.

Weird.

Stay off the mushrooms friend, they fry your brain.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Why all the hate for science?

I didn't twist anything. And unless you can answer a single question I asked you, you concede I am right, because you can not answer, therefore, you would agree.

What exactly is your question, heathen? Are you asking my why God hates mudslimes? Maybe it's because they commit whoredoms with camels! Maybe it's because they attack America (God's favorite country!) and they hate our freedoms!

Why don't you ask God?