[Zechariah Smyth]

All your arguments rest on the assumption that every bit of it is true.

FINALLY!!!!!

YiC,

Zech
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[Repentant]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

All your arguments rest on the assumption that every bit of it is true.
If you don't make that assumption, then your entire argument falls to pieces.

If there's any possibility of the Bible being wrong, then there's a possibility that the parts which state that's it's the word of God are false.

Have you proven that every bit of it is 100% true.

There are two possibilities.

1. The bible is 100% true.
2. Some or all of it is false.

If it says it's the word of God.

1. It's the word of God.
2. Since parts of it are false saying it's the word of god doesn't make it the word of God any more than it would for any other book would.

Disprove option 2. I bet you can't. (oh and quoting the Bible won't help, If option 2 is true, then the quotes will probably be wrong anyway.)

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If some idiot wrote a false scripture and wrote in it that it was the word of God, it wouldn't automatically become the word of God. If you used your logic on the false scripture, it would mean it would become the True word of God.

If it gained many followers then they might start using the same logic as you use, both would then have the exactly the same evidence.

What is this garbage? It's completely erroneous to ask for proof of God, how hard is that to understand?

Psalms 18:30

However your assertion that science is provable, is clearly utter nonsense, i am surprised with all this supposed education you have failed to grasp even the simplest of principles:

1) Science is there to define phenomena and provide an explanation.
2) Most of science is not independently "provable". By which I mean you cannot independently verify many theories without relying on a previous theory.
3) The majority of theories can only explain very simple or localised phenomena. For example gravity can be explained by the various theories, and at a local level (for example a ball falling to Earth), they provide a nice easy way to measure things, or approximate what is going to happen, but i cant think of any which actually have any capabiity to reproduce the real world without caveats or assumptions.
4) This is because although we are smart, we don't actually know what is happening, we can guess but we dont know. So your "science" is based on supposition and guesstimates.
5) God knows all. God knows how things work.
6) I can guess how and why God makes things happen, but I dont know.

2 Corinthians 7:1

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

What is this garbage? It's completely erroneous to ask for proof of God, how hard is that to understand?

Psalms 18:30

However your assertion that science is provable, is clearly utter nonsense, i am surprised with all this supposed education you have failed to grasp even the simplest of principles:

1) Science is there to define phenomena and provide an explanation.
2) Most of science is not independently "provable". By which I mean you cannot independently verify many theories without relying on a previous theory.
3) The majority of theories can only explain very simple or localised phenomena. For example gravity can be explained by the various theories, and at a local level (for example a ball falling to Earth), they provide a nice easy way to measure things, or approximate what is going to happen, but i cant think of any which actually have any capabiity to reproduce the real world without caveats or assumptions.
4) This is because although we are smart, we don't actually know what is happening, we can guess but we dont know. So your "science" is based on supposition and guesstimates.
5) God knows all. God knows how things work.
6) I can guess how and why God makes things happen, but I dont know.

2 Corinthians 7:1

There's no point trying to have a reasonable discussion with these people. They're totally obsessed with their "revealed truth".

[steva]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

I'm kinda forced to believe in the atomic theory because electricity is the movement of electrons.
The math for it is q=ne; q meaning the charge, n meaning the number of electrons, e meaning the charge of the electron and current is defined as
i = dq/dt meaning i (the current) is equal to the derivative of charge with respect to time. So by using a computer, we are proving that electrons exist, therefore the atomic theory is correct.

On the otherhand, I believe God created atomic theory.

[Repentant]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

I'm kinda forced to believe in the atomic theory because electricity is the movement of electrons.
The math for it is q=ne; q meaning the charge, n meaning the number of electrons, e meaning the charge of the electron and current is defined as
i = dq/dt meaning i (the current) is equal to the derivative of charge with respect to time. So by using a computer, we are proving that electrons exist, therefore the atomic theory is correct.

On the otherhand, I believe God created atomic theory.

This is all approximations that at a very simplistic and easily measurable level "work". That doesnt mean this is what is actually going on, any number of other theories could explain it, and eventually there may well be something slightly better found, but fundamentally they are just mathematical equations that solve easily and allow us to poke things and see the expected response, why that is nobody understands really.

[steva]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

This is all approximations that at a very simplistic and easily measurable level "work". That doesnt mean this is what is actually going on, any number of other theories could explain it, and eventually there may well be something slightly better found, but fundamentally they are just mathematical equations that solve easily and allow us to poke things and see the expected response, why that is nobody understands really.

I understand it. I've studied it for quite a while. And I haven't found any other explanation for it. There isn't any juice that flows through the computer to run it. It doesn't run off of gas.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

I'm kinda forced to believe in the atomic theory because electricity is the movement of electrons.
The math for it is q=ne; q meaning the charge, n meaning the number of electrons, e meaning the charge of the electron and current is defined as
i = dq/dt meaning i (the current) is equal to the derivative of charge with respect to time. So by using a computer, we are proving that electrons exist, therefore the atomic theory is correct.

On the otherhand, I believe God created atomic theory.

Friend,

You should take the position we TRUE Christians™ take; if we can't understand it, it means the devil did it!

While yes, God moves in mysterious ways, God explains it all in The Bible. Just we human fail to understand God's clear and complete explanations. The devil like to work in secret using sexually laden code words like "quantum". If it's describing something no honest Christian would do, it's evil!

[steva]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

Friend,

You should take the position we TRUE Christians™ take; if we can't understand it, it means the devil did it!

While yes, God moves in mysterious ways, God explains it all in The Bible. Just we human fail to understand God's clear and complete explanations. The devil like to work in secret using sexually laden code words like "quantum". If it's describing something no honest Christian would do, it's evil!

Thank you, that clears everything up. I'll keep that in mind and stay true to is as I become and electrical engineer.

[Repentant]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

I understand it. I've studied it for quite a while. And I haven't found any other explanation for it. There isn't any juice that flows through the computer to run it. It doesn't run off of gas.

Erm no you dont understand it, you havent studied it, you have read some books. You have maybe even done some simple experiments. You do not understand it, you understand the theories. Theories are just useful models.

Please do not keeping posting you are making yourself look like a numbnut. If you really understand this stuff, tell me exactly how an electron can appear as a particle and a wave. Dont post a theory, or a link to one, give me detailed analysis of how exactly this works, one that explains all the observations, not approximately, or using assumptions, but one that actually works for all measure observations. I will tell you now they dont exist. Dont be a moron.

1 Chronicles 16:28-29
Psalms 34:3

[steva]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

Erm no you dont understand it, you havent studied it, you have read some books. You have maybe even done some simple experiments. You do not understand it, you understand the theories. Theories are just useful models.

Please do not keeping posting you are making yourself look like a numbnut. If you really understand this stuff, tell me exactly how an electron can appear as a particle and a wave. Dont post a theory, or a link to one, give me detailed analysis of how exactly this works, one that explains all the observations, not approximately, or using assumptions, but one that actually works for all measure observations. I will tell you now they dont exist. Dont be a mormon.

1 Chronicles 16:28-29
Psalms 34:3

Why is there a necessity to explain matter waves when I only said I understand electricity? matter waves have nothing to do with electricity as far as understanding how it works. If you don't believe in atomic theory, you should quit using your computer because you're just endorsing Satan unless you think there is another explanation for how your computer is running other than the flow of electrons, and if you do, please share. I'd love to learn from your wisdom.

[Repentant]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

Thank you, that clears everything up. I'll keep that in mind and stay true to is as I become and electrical engineer.

Of course you can use those models to do electrical engineering you halfwit, these simplistic models work for some very simple cases that you will use, you do not have any clue why they really work.

1 Corinthians 14:39-40

[steva]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

Of course you can use those models to do electrical engineering you halfwit, these simplistic models work for some very simple cases that you will use, you do not have any clue why they really work.

1 Corinthians 14:39-40

I'm glad a non engineer like you is showing me the way to be an engineer. I'm sure God will be pleased with all the work I will do to try to make life better for people in society with the simplistic models I'll be using. I'll be dedicating everything I make to God since he made electrons.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

Thank you, that clears everything up. I'll keep that in mind and stay true to is as I become and electrical engineer.

Friend,

Stay away from Electronics; as professions go electronics is the one most filled with bearded, pornography addicted moral degenerates there is. Do you really think the man who coined the phrase "Wheatstone Bridge" was thinking about competent arrangements? Oh No.

I'd change degrees before you out what "silicon valley" really means when your professional colleagues bend you over a table.

[Repentant]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

Why is there a necessity to explain matter waves when I only said I understand electricity? matter waves have nothing to do with electricity as far as understanding how it works. If you don't believe in atomic theory, you should quit using your computer because you're just endorsing Satan unless you think there is another explanation for how your computer is running other than the flow of electrons, and if you do, please share. I'd love to learn from your wisdom.

I dont need to know how it works, I accept it does because God made it so.


1 Corinthians 14:39-40

[steva]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

I dont need to know how it works, I accept it does because God made it so.


1 Corinthians 14:39-40

If that works for you, then that's good. But I intend to glorify God by what I make.