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Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

Perhaps you should read the Bible before asking such stupid questions.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2 Samuel 22:31 As for God, his way is perfect; the word of the LORD is tried: he is a buckler to all them that trust in him.

Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

And how can you be sure that some random people wrote it and pretended it was the word of God?

Your starting with the assumption that the the Bible is true.

Can you show evidence it's the actual word of God without assuming that the bible is true?

You have not shown any evidence that the other scriptures have.
They claim there the word of God.
The Bible claims it's the word of God.
What evidence does the Bible have the other scriptures don't?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

And how can you be sure that some random people wrote it and pretended it was the word of God?

Your starting with the assumption that the the Bible is true.

Can you show evidence it's the actual word of God without assuming that the bible is true?

You have not shown any evidence that the other scriptures have.
They claim there the word of God.
The Bible claims it's the word of God.
What evidence does the Bible have the other scriptures don't?

Read my sermon on the subject HERE. It answers your questions.

And stop all this doubting nonsense. Accept God for what He is like we do.

[11cookies]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

Can you actually prove the Bible is the true word of God without assuming either, 1. It's completely true, or 2. It's the word of God.

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

Can you actually prove the Bible is the true word of God without assuming either, 1. It's completely true, or 2. It's the word of God.

Can you actually prove the Bible is not the true word of God without assuming either, 1. It's completely false, or 2. It's not the word of God.

YOU have to supply the evidence to back up your silly claim.

YIC

Jack

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

Excuse but if multiple different scriptures say there the word of God, which one is true.

How do you figure it out. All of them say there the word of God.

They're saying they are the word of Allah or some such. Try to pay attention!

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

Can you actually prove the Bible is the true word of God without assuming either, 1. It's completely true, or 2. It's the word of God.

Friend,

It says so in The Bible.

Anymore questions?

[Repentant]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

It's called faith for a reason:

Psalms 5:11

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

It's called faith for a reason:

Psalms 5:11

EXACTLY! It's FAITH that the traditional pastoral consensus is RIGHT! As we TRUE Christians(tm) always have said Christianity is a religion of Divinely Reveled LOGIC. If anything there is no more faith more of it when it comes to logic than Christianity!.

Christianity has over two thousand years of carefully crafted arguments, horned out in detail by some of the greatest thinkers. Christianity's ideas have withstood seven major social changes in the West. Science has completely re-described the nature of reality lest three time in that time period yet Christianity has not changed even once.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

Can you actually prove the Bible is the true word of God without assuming either, 1. It's completely true, or 2. It's the word of God.

Can you actually prove that science is true without assuming either, 1. It's completely true, or 2. It's based on science.

Well, can you??

[11cookies]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

Can you actually prove the Bible is not the true word of God without assuming either, 1. It's completely false, or 2. It's not the word of God.

YOU have to supply the evidence to back up your silly claim.

YIC

Jack

It contradicts known maths and a lot of science. It requires Nasa to be and all the space agencies to be in on a conspiracy, (Flat earth/ Geocentrism.) Lots of maths to be wrong (pi=3).

Possible contradictions.

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html

Serious contradictions.

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/inconsistencies.html

There, strong evidence. wouldn't call it proof, but it's pretty strong.

Now where's yours.

It also requires that people when they start to see the possible options of what to believe in, to make a lucky guess or burn in hell.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

There, strong evidence. wouldn't call it proof, but it's pretty strong.

Now where's yours.

[11cookies]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

No I mean where is your evidence that the Bible is the true word of God that doesn't assume that the Bible is true to begin with.
Maybe the parts of it which state it's the word of God are false themselves.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

No I mean where is your evidence that the Bible is the true word of God that doesn't assume that the Bible is true to begin with.
Maybe the parts of it which state it's the word of God are false themselves.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

It's like we're going to go round in the same circle with you forever and ever isn't it!

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

No I mean where is your evidence that the Bible is the true word of God that doesn't assume that the Bible is true to begin with.

No I mean where is your evidence the science is true that doesn't assume that science is true to begin with.

Maybe the parts of it which state it's the word of God are false themselves.

Can you please post those parts of the Holy Bible that state that anything in the Holy Bible is false?

[11cookies]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

No I mean where is your evidence the science is true that doesn't assume that science is true to begin with.









Can you please post those parts of the Holy Bible that state that anything in the Holy Bible is false?

All your arguments rest on the assumption that every bit of it is true.
If you don't make that assumption, then your entire argument falls to pieces.

If there's any possibility of the Bible being wrong, then there's a possibility that the parts which state that's it's the word of God are false.

Have you proven that every bit of it is 100% true.

There are two possibilities.

1. The bible is 100% true.
2. Some or all of it is false.

If it says it's the word of God.

1. It's the word of God.
2. Since parts of it are false saying it's the word of god doesn't make it the word of God any more than it would for any other book would.

Disprove option 2. I bet you can't. (oh and quoting the Bible won't help, If option 2 is true, then the quotes will probably be wrong anyway.)

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If some idiot wrote a false scripture and wrote in it that it was the word of God, it wouldn't automatically become the word of God. If you used your logic on the false scripture, it would mean it would become the True word of God.

If it gained many followers then they might start using the same logic as you use, both would then have the exactly the same evidence.