[Average Fool]

Re: ALL SCIENCE IS EVIL, AND FROM SATAN! (aka THE EARTH IS FLAT)

Many worthless freaks believe science is fact, while the Bible is a lie. I find that quite pathetic, since the only people who seem to come up with the actual 'proof' that science is fact are the scientists themselves. Well why wouldn't they? They have to protect their meaningless jobs.

I find that amuzing, since we know the truth. We believe in factual faith, where as they believe in 'science-fiction'. We are men of God, while they are losers of science.

Seriously, how are we meant to believe anything some worthless scientist tells us, when it is clearly a lie and fabrication to attack our God. ALL Scientists are in league with Lucifer, their plan to blast our heads so full of nonsense that we believe more in their far-out-trash, than God almighty.

Genetics, dinosaurs, men on the moon. All bullshit. For every co-called fact they can give me, i can dismiss it as fabricated nonsense. It's already a well-known-fact that all the moon landings were faked. Man has never set foot into space, and I would be willing to bet that nothing else has either. All the pictures from so-called sattelites ... FAKE, all pictures from other plantes ... FAKE, and how can we believe most so-called fossils are truly what they say if their so-called carbon dating bullshit comes from these perverting scientists too? In truth - We can't.

Oh we have all seen the pictures of a cloned sheep. Ha ha. Like all sheep don't look identical. Prove to me it was cloned, and not just some slight-of-hand magician's trick to make the masses actually believe cloning is possible.

So in an effort to prove these pathetic scientists wrong, I set them a task. They ask me to prove God exists? Well I asked them to prove to me the Earth is round, not flat. Prove this to me - NOT with so-called 'genuine' pictures from 'outerspace', or any of your other science fiction bullshit.

Because we know that it is flat, and that God lets people 'flip' to the other side safely.

Isaiah 40:22 says 'It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth', CIRCLE, NOT SPHERE. The Earth is a FLAT CIRCLE, every Christian knew that for 100's of years. But science has been working to blind of from that truth for decades! And they almost had us!

So, I asked them to prove me wrong, I asked him to prove to me the World was round WITHOUT science, or as I like to call it 'science fiction' - They could not.

In truth, I had half expected them to come up with some braindead reply about those flying mechanical metal birds dumb humans like to fly in. You know what I mean. The ones those dumb illiterate towel-headed pig-farmers used to destroy the twin towers. If God had intended man to fly he would have given him wings. Another abomination of science. Man has been trying to fly for centuries, they call this witchcraft. An air-plane is nothing but the evolution of the broomstick that witches used to fly 100s of years ago. They are the work of the Devil, and hated by God. Why do you think a massive metal object can actually fly through the air? Oh, don't give me some dumb scientific explanation, it is sorcery that powers these machines. Anyone who flies in a plane will burn in Hell! Praise Jesus!

God does not want us to meddle in his affairs, cloning humans, genetics bullshit, so-called scientific advancements are nothing but blasphemy, and can be accounted for as alchemy and sorcery. All filthy scientists will burn come Judgement Day for their part in the Satanic agenda of trying to disprove my God, which carried the ultimate punishment. The Second death, referred to in Revelation. And there shall be a great gnashing of teeth, and their skin shall burn off their bones, and their eyes shall melt into their sockets, and their pain shall last eternity. It's nothing less than they deserve. Amen!

I for one can't wait till you all burn, your blood is on your own heads. Halleluja!

Rev RG Green
God's Hammer Baptist Church
Founder of the Parents Against Goth Organisation
www.godhatesgoths.com

Wow!! When I first saw this forum I didn't know whether or not it was a joke. I would really like to touch the fact on hour airplanes fly, but I feel it might be too complicated for you to understand; given that it is considered to be part of rocket science. Let just put it this way, ever see a leaf or such being lifted into the air from the wind; or is that sorcery as well?

That part that really bugs me is that people still believe the Earth is flat and the center of the universe. At the time that the Bible was written this was the current known science, or natural philosophy as they called it, so it would make sense that they would portray the world as flat; does that mean the western world does not exist because that is what those ancient maps would tell us?

There are endless ways to prove the Earth is spherical, my main challenge is for you to prove the Earth is flat. But here is some food for thought...

For those of you who live near the north pole, why is it there is no sunlight for month during the winter and constant sunlight for months during the summer. In addition, if you visit at the right time of the year the sun will follow the horizon completely in a circular manner. This shows that the Earth is spherical considering no one else on Earth experiences this at that given time. Seasons would not exist if the Earth was flat either.

Here is an experiment for someone in the Northern hemisphere who knows another in the Sothern hemisphere. Or in your case the upper and lower halves of the world about the equator. Go to your toilet and flush it, note the direction the water flows. Now call your friend in the other half of the world and have them do the same thing, they will say it flows in the opposite direction as yours. This is called the coriolis effect, which is a product of the spherical Earth spinning about its axis. How would you explain that, worldwide sorcery or something?

This concerns me that people think the way you do. You can still believe the Bible while interpreting from what may be written by man and what is theology. I offer the challenge to disprove to me any scientific question you may have.

[Average Fool]

Re: ALL SCIENCE IS EVIL, AND FROM SATAN! (aka THE EARTH IS FLAT)

That was a good experiment and pretty similar to what atheists believe. The think fish climbed out of the sea and grew lungs .

They say evolution is a slow process but how would this work? How would a fish grow lungs? Evolution is about the survival of the fittest, the fittest fish stayed in the water. The fish that thought that they would go for a walk on the beach were dead in a minute or so. How did they pass on their genes?

Atheists are stupid.

YIC

Jack

Evolution is a very slow process!! Some think that the appendix is either a dead organ by evolutionary selection, or maybe it is something that would be useful for our future ancestors.

One way I think evolution can be viewed in a more fathomed scale is the technological evolution. A mere 50 years ago you would need a computer the size of a large room to simply relay this forum website, even though Internet did not exist back then. There was a selection process, what worked moved forwar and what didn't was left behind. Granted this not life, which is why it takes so long for natural selection. Germs and bugs would probably show us the most evolutionary selections in our own lifetime. This is why the flu vaccine must be changed every year to accommodate for the viruses mutation in order to flourish with its host (humans).

[Didymus Much]

Re: ALL SCIENCE IS EVIL, AND FROM SATAN! (aka THE EARTH IS FLAT)

...Here is an experiment for someone in the Northern hemisphere who knows another in the Sothern hemisphere. Or in your case the upper and lower halves of the world about the equator. Go to your toilet and flush it, note the direction the water flows. Now call your friend in the other half of the world and have them do the same thing, they will say it flows in the opposite direction as yours. This is called the coriolis effect, which is a product of the spherical Earth spinning about its axis. How would you explain that, worldwide sorcery or something?...

Actually, that's somewhat of a myth (though you'd be surprised how many science teachers believe it). The acceleration due to the Coriolis effect is tiny compared to residual motion in the water from the initial filling or any washing you've done in it.

From the Wiki page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolis_effect):

"...water rotation in home bathrooms under normal circumstances is not related to the Coriolis effect or to the rotation of the earth, and no consistent difference in rotation direction between toilets in the northern and southern hemispheres can be observed..."

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: ALL SCIENCE IS EVIL, AND FROM SATAN! (aka THE EARTH IS FLAT)

Evolution is a very slow process!! Some think that the appendix is either a dead organ by evolutionary selection, or maybe it is something that would be useful for our future ancestors.

One way I think evolution can be viewed in a more fathomed scale is the technological evolution. A mere 50 years ago you would need a computer the size of a large room to simply relay this forum website, even though Internet did not exist back then. There was a selection process, what worked moved forwar and what didn't was left behind. Granted this not life, which is why it takes so long for natural selection. Germs and bugs would probably show us the most evolutionary selections in our own lifetime. This is why the flu vaccine must be changed every year to accommodate for the viruses mutation in order to flourish with its host (humans).

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

[Average Fool]

Re: ALL SCIENCE IS EVIL, AND FROM SATAN! (aka THE EARTH IS FLAT)

Actually, that's somewhat of a myth (though you'd be surprised how many science teachers believe it). The acceleration due to the Coriolis effect is tiny compared to residual motion in the water from the initial filling or any washing you've done in it.

From the Wiki page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolis_effect):

Oh, thank you for that. However, it still has an effect on the direction weather circulation, or convection, the toilet was just a more simple example for some. Considering electromagnetism is the work of the devil in this forum, yet is a must to a pilot traveling via a compass.

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: ALL SCIENCE IS EVIL, AND FROM SATAN! (aka THE EARTH IS FLAT)

Evolution is a very slow process!! Some think that the appendix is either a dead organ by evolutionary selection, or maybe it is something that would be useful for our future ancestors.

Well if you are a fish taking a walk on a beach then evolution needs to be a very quick process.

You have serious gaps in your understanding. Luckily for you God gave us the answers in Genesis. You need to read it my friend.

YIC

Jack

[Average Fool]

Re: ALL SCIENCE IS EVIL, AND FROM SATAN! (aka THE EARTH IS FLAT)

Well if you are a fish taking a walk on a beach then evolution needs to be a very quick process.

You have serious gaps in your understanding. Luckily for you God gave us the answers in Genesis. You need to read it my friend.

YIC

Jack

Actually, my understanding has no gaps, it is just hard to fill the gaps in your understanding on the topic.

Take moment and look up the mudskipper fish. It is a fish that "walks" on land. Frogs start out as fish, "tadpoles," as well.

I don't believe it was as simple as a fish walking on land one day. It is a fish like a mudskipper where over time this animal "evolved" to accomplish the task of walking in land easier and more effectively. Eye sight is a better example, there are still animals in earth who "see" through photo sensitive (light sensitive) cells, in our case or in other animals it was more effective and easier for hunting and survival if our eyes worked better than just sensing light. Bats or miles evolved to see through sonar or vibrations since they live primarily in darkness.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: ALL SCIENCE IS EVIL, AND FROM SATAN! (aka THE EARTH IS FLAT)

Actually, my understanding has no gaps, it is just hard to fill the gaps in your understanding on the topic.

Take moment and look up the mudskipper fish. It is a fish that "walks" on land. Frogs start out as fish, "tadpoles," as well.

I don't believe it was as simple as a fish walking on land one day. It is a fish like a mudskipper where over time this animal "evolved" to accomplish the task of walking in land easier and more effectively. Eye sight is a better example, there are still animals in earth who "see" through photo sensitive (light sensitive) cells, in our case or in other animals it was more effective and easier for hunting and survival if our eyes worked better than just sensing light. Bats or miles evolved to see through sonar or vibrations since they live primarily in darkness.

Please, go and tell your science teacher this, and see what they say.



Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[jessev]

Re: ALL SCIENCE IS EVIL, AND FROM SATAN! (aka THE EARTH IS FLAT)

Wanted to address a few things here:

In terms of speaking about evolution in general, it doesn't really speak about the origin of life. That is a separate subject matter. It simply tries to provide a natural means by which changes between individuals and species can occur. Yes, people have been able to create amino acids and organic compounds that could form a sort of blastula of those organic compounds. Of course, actually formulating life is not a simple process for us if it is possible at all. Life did not come from rocks. Rocks are completely inorganic minerals. However, life could have possibly come from organic materials. It's the process of 'how' that we do not yet know about yet. The Bible does indeed provide an answer in Genesis, however as it cannot be something that's tested or given evidence of, its not something sought in science. Science tends to try to look for a natural means in which something may occur.

The experiment with the cat will always end up the way it did. It's impossible for anything to spontaneously change immediately like that. Such an experiment does nothing to prove or disprove evolution as nothing about evolution would claim that a creature can change in such a fashion immediately. I know that most everyone is willing to believe in biological micro-evolution because that can and has been proven. People are always pointing to biological macro-evolution that is more difficult. Though I agree that there are still things that need to be explained, there is a considerable amount of evidence to show that it is possible. Today, that is aided a fair bit by genetic research.

The description of 'Survival of the Fittest' really isn't that great of a descriptor for evolution either. That tends to imply that only the strong, or most physically capable individual survives. It's better to say that those that are best suited to their environment will survive.

Talking about fish and lungs? Well, there are some fish that actually have lungs. There are many reasons why a creature may try to venture out onto land. As amphibians tend to live in both land and water during one part of life or another, they tell a lot about such reasons. Generally speaking it's usually one of two possibilities. Avoiding predation and searching for food.

I'm in agreement about the Coriolis effect. It's a weak force that generally only affects large things. Hurricanes being a good example of what it 'can' effect. Toilet bowls, not so much...

I will also add another thing about the curvature of the Earth. An easy thing to try to watch. On a nice, clear day, if you look out onto the horizon and watch a ship sail off over the ocean, you can begin to see the ship slowly dip past the horizon. I would suggest trying this simple experiment because it can help show that the surface of the earth must, in fact, be rounded.

That is all to say at the moment. I hope some of this may help. I appreciate the discussion so far.

[Average Fool]

Re: ALL SCIENCE IS EVIL, AND FROM SATAN! (aka THE EARTH IS FLAT)

Please, go and tell your science teacher this, and see what they say.



Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

I'm sorry, frog start out fish-like, swimming in the water instead of being on land, particularly having no legs to walk.

[Average Fool]

Re: ALL SCIENCE IS EVIL, AND FROM SATAN! (aka THE EARTH IS FLAT)

Wanted to address a few things here:

In terms of speaking about evolution in general, it doesn't really speak about the origin of life. That is a separate subject matter. It simply tries to provide a natural means by which changes between individuals and species can occur. Yes, people have been able to create amino acids and organic compounds that could form a sort of blastula of those organic compounds. Of course, actually formulating life is not a simple process for us if it is possible at all. Life did not come from rocks. Rocks are completely inorganic minerals. However, life could have possibly come from organic materials. It's the process of 'how' that we do not yet know about yet. The Bible does indeed provide an answer in Genesis, however as it cannot be something that's tested or given evidence of, its not something sought in science. Science tends to try to look for a natural means in which something may occur.

The experiment with the cat will always end up the way it did. It's impossible for anything to spontaneously change immediately like that. Such an experiment does nothing to prove or disprove evolution as nothing about evolution would claim that a creature can change in such a fashion immediately. I know that most everyone is willing to believe in biological micro-evolution because that can and has been proven. People are always pointing to biological macro-evolution that is more difficult. Though I agree that there are still things that need to be explained, there is a considerable amount of evidence to show that it is possible. Today, that is aided a fair bit by genetic research.

The description of 'Survival of the Fittest' really isn't that great of a descriptor for evolution either. That tends to imply that only the strong, or most physically capable individual survives. It's better to say that those that are best suited to their environment will survive.

Talking about fish and lungs? Well, there are some fish that actually have lungs. There are many reasons why a creature may try to venture out onto land. As amphibians tend to live in both land and water during one part of life or another, they tell a lot about such reasons. Generally speaking it's usually one of two possibilities. Avoiding predation and searching for food.

I'm in agreement about the Coriolis effect. It's a weak force that generally only affects large things. Hurricanes being a good example of what it 'can' effect. Toilet bowls, not so much...

I will also add another thing about the curvature of the Earth. An easy thing to try to watch. On a nice, clear day, if you look out onto the horizon and watch a ship sail off over the ocean, you can begin to see the ship slowly dip past the horizon. I would suggest trying this simple experiment because it can help show that the surface of the earth must, in fact, be rounded.

That is all to say at the moment. I hope some of this may help. I appreciate the discussion so far.

Well said!! It is hard to state thing in simplistic terms in order for the people on this forum to understand. Although it is almost pointless, because they won't change their minds, just as we won't change ours. However, it is frustrating when you spend years of your life in college learning these things and experimenting in order to provide physical evidence that science is fact and works.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: ALL SCIENCE IS EVIL, AND FROM SATAN! (aka THE EARTH IS FLAT)

I'm sorry, frog start out fish-like, swimming in the water instead of being on land, particularly having no legs to walk.

And this right here is beautiful example of a microcosm of "science": keep moving the goalposts and changing criteria and adjusting data until it suits their purpose of thwarting and denying God.

*golf clap*

Your Jesus-hating transparency is galling.



YiC,

Z. Smyth

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: ALL SCIENCE IS EVIL, AND FROM SATAN! (aka THE EARTH IS FLAT)

Please, go and tell your science teacher this, and see what they say.



Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

He probably thinks it will turn into a butterfly next.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: ALL SCIENCE IS EVIL, AND FROM SATAN! (aka THE EARTH IS FLAT)

Oh, thank you for that. However, it still has an effect on the direction weather circulation, or convection, the toilet was just a more simple example for some [and totally wrong]. Considering electromagnetism is the work of the devil in this forum, yet is a must to a pilot traveling via a compass.

Just imagine how many more of the things you think of as scientifically accurate because someone who was mistaken told you something with no actual evidence but their authority and you sucked it right up...

[Average Fool]

Re: ALL SCIENCE IS EVIL, AND FROM SATAN! (aka THE EARTH IS FLAT)

And this right here is beautiful example of a microcosm of "science": keep moving the goalposts and changing criteria and adjusting data until it suits their purpose of thwarting and denying God.

*golf clap*

Your Jesus-hating transparency is galling.



YiC,

Z. Smyth

Oh yes that is what I did; I am being sarcastic. It's seems that on this forum I have to spell everything out to the T. Next thing is you'll tell me that 1+1 does not equal 2. Seems like when someone points out the plain truth you have to make an exuse to deny it. As a matter of fact, much like many anphebeon fish today, they have developed legs to walk on the sea floor or lakebed.