[Sheldon the Swede]

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Who knows? Why didn't God reveal cures for cancer 2000 years ago? Who knows? Why does the platypus exist? Who knows? He who pretends to knwo the mind of God is a deceiver.


No, they don't. All True Christians™ read the Bible literally and try to do what it says. Why don't you understand that? Some False Christians try to "interpret" the Bible because when they read God's Law, it makes them uncomfortable or because following the law would e inconvenient. WE DON'T DO THAT!

Are you insane? The Bible tells us what the Garden was like....twice! Any details left out are unimportant to God. The fact that the Bible is not written like a William Faulkner novel, with 20 pages devoted to the description of a cup of coffee or a ray of sunshine or something doesn't mean that what it DOES describe is inadequate.

Name one.

So, using this logic, all human interactions are meaningless because words mean different things to different people? Are you telling me that you think that pedophilia is OK? People AGREE on morals. People AGREE on laws. Not because we all interpret them differently but because they are laid down with very specific language that prevents "personal interpretation."

Laws are clear, the stories and verses in the bible are not.

For each story there are people who takes the moral and lesson of those stories differently, Lessons from verses and other stories can be changed if you change the point of view of a story, laws aren't stories, you can't see them differently.

And by the way, he never said that he thinks that being a pedophile is OK, it has nothing to do with that. Stories can be seen different for people, when we hear the word pedophile we know the action itself, not the interpretation of the act.

[Bible Student]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Originally Posted by Gabriel Reproba
If God wanted to change the text of the Bible, he would. That he has NOT done so proves that he is happy with the Law in the Bible as it is.

No, but God knew they would come about.

Well at least you have SOME common sense in you!

Here is where your logic fails you. The BIBLE says NOT to "interpret" the Bible!

"Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. " (2 Peter 1:20)

So, logically, if you do agree that the Bible is "all or nothing" then you HAVE to accept 2 Peter 1:20 and you can NOT "interpret" scripture!

QED

If God knew computer's would be coming, why did he not write the Bible so that it would relate to the current World's situation economically and Industrially.

You do realize that the word computer is an American English [yes I realize American and English is redundant] word, don't you? Those people back then were not smart enough to learn English so God had to resort to Hebrew and Greek. And the vocabulary had to be small for the Hebrew and Greek languages back then, otherwise the people would not be able to remember all the words.

[Gabriel Reproba]

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I think you've missed the point.

No. You have missed mine. I understand that the images of Eden would be different but my POINT was that the places where they are different DON'T MATTER TO GOD. What matters is that there is Adam; Eve; a talking snake; an Apple; a bunch of animals Adam just named; God walking around asking where Adam is; and, of course, gates, cherubim, and giant spinning swords guarding the entrance. EVERYONE would have these elements because THAT is what GOD put in the Bible. All other details are irrelevant.

And im telling you Pedophilia is not okay.

And WHY is it not ok? Because GOD says so!

Laws are written so that no-one can interpret them or bypass them...

OK so you agree that the laws in the Bible can not be misinterpreted. So what is your point?

And lets see. Name a Bible moral that can be interpreted differently.

The story of Job I guess. He is tested, by satan, But in the end, He is rewarded with what he lost by God.

Actually he did not get back what he lost. All of his animals and family were killed by God on a bet. Job got Family 2.0, now with better Glory!

Does this story mean that If you are tested, you should never give up.

No.

That if you are tested, You shall have your lost possessions returned and your diseases cured?

No.

That you should never sway from the lord no matter how awful life gets?

Yes.

That people will always tempt you away from God in times of dispair?

No.

That God is rather mean and cant just leave Job alone and not have to prove how powerful he is to that bastard Satan?

No.

That Satan And God talk on a regular basis and make bets?

No.

Clear now? Any other questions?

People AGREE that the Earth is flat, Does that make it flat? Using your logic, It does.

No they don't.

[James Hutchins]

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Praise the glory, Brother Gabriel, I believe that is check, mate and win, categorically and unequivocally!

[DanCronk]

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So just one question for everyone. Why would you choose to believe the bible as absolute truth? I am willing to listen to other peoples viewpoints and believe that everyone deserves a chance to speak their mind and yet your own admin on this website alters peoples writing to make them sound stupid. That's not a very kind thing to do. If we can not listen to each other and grow together then we are truly lost and many of the people here make me sad for their unwillingness to listen to another persons point of view before they determine he is "of Satan" and will "burn in hell". It is no ones place but gods to say such things as you were not put on this earth to judge others. Also if you truly believe what you preach then you will agree that swaying the minds of non-believers to the "path of enlightenment" is something that all good Christians should do. If that is the case then perhaps you should stop saying that people who disagree with you are "of Satan" because if someone called you "of Satan" the last thing you're going to do is listen to what they have to say. Finally before anyone tries to suggest it I am not and do not claim to be a prophet of any kind so please don't start calling me a "false profit" or "a deceiver sent by Satan".

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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So just one question for everyone. Why would you choose to believe the bible as absolute truth? I am willing to listen to other peoples viewpoints and believe that everyone deserves a chance to speak their mind and yet your own admin on this website alters peoples writing to make them sound stupid. That's not a very kind thing to do. If we can not listen to each other and grow together then we are truly lost and many of the people here make me sad for their unwillingness to listen to another persons point of view before they determine he is "of Satan" and will "burn in hell". It is no ones place but gods to say such things as you were not put on this earth to judge others. Also if you truly believe what you preach then you will agree that swaying the minds of non-believers to the "path of enlightenment" is something that all good Christians should do. If that is the case then perhaps you should stop saying that people who disagree with you are "of Satan" because if someone called you "of Satan" the last thing you're going to do is listen to what they have to say. Finally before anyone tries to suggest it I am not and do not claim to be a prophet of any kind so please don't start calling me a "false profit" or "a deceiver sent by Satan".

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[Levi Jones]

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So just one question for everyone. Why would you choose to believe the bible as absolute truth?

The Bible can either be true or false. Which is it?

I am willing to listen to other peoples viewpoints and believe that everyone deserves a chance to speak their mind and yet your own admin on this website alters peoples writing to make them sound stupid.

No. We are way too busy to do that. People make themselves sound stupid all the time.

That's not a very kind thing to do. If we can not listen to each other and grow together then we are truly lost and many of the people here make me sad for their unwillingness to listen to another persons point of view before they determine he is "of Satan" and will "burn in hell". It is no ones place but gods to say such things as you were not put on this earth to judge others.

Yes we were.

John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

1st Corinthians 5:12-13 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

1 Corinthians 6:1-5 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?.
If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.

2 Timothy 4:1-2 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

Also if you truly believe what you preach then you will agree that swaying the minds of non-believers to the "path of enlightenment" is something that all good Christians should do. If that is the case then perhaps you should stop saying that people who disagree with you are "of Satan"

I believe I put people on the path to enlightenment often.

Calling someone "of the devil" is precisely what Jesus did. So ask yourself WWJD?

John 8:44-45 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

because if someone called you "of Satan" the last thing you're going to do is listen to what they have to say. Finally before anyone tries to suggest it I am not and do not claim to be a prophet of any kind so please don't start calling me a "false profit" or "a deceiver sent by Satan".

Oops, too late.

[God's Flaming Sword]

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So just one question for everyone. Why would you choose to believe the bible as absolute truth? I am willing to listen to other peoples viewpoints and believe that everyone deserves a chance to speak their mind and yet your own admin on this website alters peoples writing to make them sound stupid. That's not a very kind thing to do. If we can not listen to each other and grow together then we are truly lost and many of the people here make me sad for their unwillingness to listen to another persons point of view before they determine he is "of Satan" and will "burn in hell". It is no ones place but gods to say such things as you were not put on this earth to judge others. Also if you truly believe what you preach then you will agree that swaying the minds of non-believers to the "path of enlightenment" is something that all good Christians should do. If that is the case then perhaps you should stop saying that people who disagree with you are "of Satan" because if someone called you "of Satan" the last thing you're going to do is listen to what they have to say. Finally before anyone tries to suggest it I am not and do not claim to be a prophet of any kind so please don't start calling me a "false profit" or "a deceiver sent by Satan".

What does any of this have to do with the thread.

Please leave your unsaved trash nonsense outside this forum....this is for True Christians to discuss - not a debate forum.

[GodisGreat86]

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1) You're moving at the SAME SPEED as the Earth. The speed is so great you do not have time or resistance to decelerate. There are plenty of ways to prove this also.

2) Do you really think a balloon is similar to the Earth? Gravity has to do with MASS NOT SIZE.

3) You don't have to get high to see the world is round. There's a horizon, meaning that the surface that one is observing from is not an infinite plane. On the clearest of days, the only restriction to one's range of sight is the horizon. There can be two explanations for this - one, that the Earth at some point just stops, as if you were looking off the edge of a table. The other is that the Earth is round.

Also if you get high enough you CAN see the curvature of the world.

How do you account for the fact that you can continue moving in 1 direction forever?

I was about to take this seriously but these "experiments" disregard so many simple things that make them irrelevant.

Man wrote the Bible, man is fallible.

[James Dewitt]

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You're moving at the SAME SPEED as the Earth. The speed is so great you do not have time or resistance to decelerate. There are plenty of ways to prove this also.

Lets see I am sitting at my desk, why yes you are correct, for the most part I am not moving and neither is the Earth.

2) Do you really think a balloon is similar to the Earth? Gravity has to do with MASS NOT SIZE.

According to you Round Earthers the world is round like a ball, so yes, a balloon is similar.

3) You don't have to get high to see the world is round. There's a horizon, meaning that the surface that one is observing from is not an infinite plane. On the clearest of days, the only restriction to one's range of sight is the horizon. There can be two explanations for this - one, that the Earth at some point just stops, as if you were looking off the edge of a table. The other is that the Earth is round.

I flew from FreeHold to the Keys on Friday. I normally am at an altitude of 30 to 35 thousand feet. Son the earth is flat.

How do you account for the fact that you can continue moving in 1 direction forever?

Is this by car, boat, train or plane?

Man wrote the Bible, man is fallible.

Yes man did wright the Bible, under direction of God, so are you saying that God is fallible?

[God's Flaming Sword]

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1) You're moving at the SAME SPEED as the Earth. The speed is so great you do not have time or resistance to decelerate. There are plenty of ways to prove this also.

Nonsense - other unsaved trash have already insisted numerous times that resistance is one of the main reason they disagree with us (well that and not loving God). You just can't make your mind up can you?

2) Do you really think a balloon is similar to the Earth? Gravity has to do with MASS NOT SIZE.

MASS?!?!? This isn't a catlik papist forum.

3) You don't have to get high to see the world is round. Also if you get high enough you CAN see the curvature of the world.

This is hippy drug taking nonsense isn't it? You won't find any true Christians getting high on anything other than the love of God.

How do you account for the fact that you can continue moving in 1 direction forever?

Can you? I just tried this by jumping over towards my television....is stopped moving in that direction pretty quickly.

Man wrote the Bible, man is fallible.

No - God wrote the Bible. If you had bothered to introduce yourself and read some posts on the forums you would have already see this point but just for you here are some points to prove this. “God breathed” all Scripture to profit us in at least six areas. Find them for your own benefit in the verses below.
2 Timothy 3:16-17
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

God wrote it with His own breath even though He used human instruments. Therefore, you can trust it. You can stand on it. You can step out on it. He said what He meant to say in it. What does a Scripture mean? It means whatever that Scripture says. Check and Mate you heathen scum.

[Brennan_37]

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Oh sweet lord where do I begin.

Ok, Im going to explain to you the opposing argument. If your true christians and decent people you will actually try and listen to this post, and try and argue me back with logic. I stess the logic part of that statement.

1)Have you tried jumping on a bus? The fact is that you DONT go flying to the back of the bus because you are moving at the SAME speed as the bus. There is no opposing force to slow you down "object in motion wants to stay in motion" Same theory applies to your argument, we travel at the same speed as the earth so there, science for the win here

2)The gravity issue. There are countless proofs of gases in the universe being acted upon by a unseen force, a force that always causes these gases to gravitate towards a large mass. Not to mention that fact that most of the modern day miracles are accomplished off of the very principles you are saying dont exist. The fact is its here, its proven. So win 2 for science

3)This I thought was so simple I almost didnt want to insult you with a answer. Have you ever googled the circumference of the earth??? Its LOOONNNNGGGGGG Its so long in fact that the curvature is not visible to the human eye. And what do you make of the images recieved from telescopes of other planets????? Also the fact that this theory of a flat earth was dis proven with Columbus????? Im not going to expand on this cause it hurts that ppl actually believe this.

All of this being said, I respect christians and their beliefs. But the bible isnt ment to be taken LITERALLY in every sense. Most main stream denominations accept and believe in the things you are saying are not real. In fact the late pope even accepted the fact that evolution is plausable as long as you accept the fact that the divine imbued the body with a spirit. Dont believe me, google vatican records on this. I have done a university report on this, so don't say I'm lying because Im not.

If you have questions about anything else related to science please feel free to ask and not just stick your heads in the sand and sing LALALALALA. I will help to alleviate your confusion. It is possible to believe in both here people, join the world of 2011

[GOD=life]

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Oh sweet lord where do I begin.

The KJV 1611 Bible would be a good start.

If your true christians and decent people you will actually try and listen to this post, and try and argue me back with logic. I stess the logic part of that statement.

Sure, no problem. What you are doing is a simple ad hominem logical fallacy called "poisoning the well". You are attacking your opponent's credibility by ridiculing his ability to grasp logic.

Unfortunately for you, we have excellent grasp of logic and rational discourse in general. We know all the logical fallacies that atheists use to discredit True Christianity™.

Why not go back to logic 101 and come back once your grasp of logic goes beyond the ability to spell the word?

[James Dewitt]

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Oh sweet lord where do I begin.

Ok, Im going to explain to you the opposing argument. If your true christians and decent people you will actually try and listen to this post, and try and argue me back with logic. I stess the logic part of that statement.

1)Have you tried jumping on a bus? The fact is that you DONT go flying to the back of the bus because you are moving at the SAME speed as the bus. There is no opposing force to slow you down "object in motion wants to stay in motion" Same theory applies to your argument, we travel at the same speed as the earth so there, science for the win here

2)The gravity issue. There are countless proofs of gases in the universe being acted upon by a unseen force, a force that always causes these gases to gravitate towards a large mass. Not to mention that fact that most of the modern day miracles are accomplished off of the very principles you are saying dont exist. The fact is its here, its proven. So win 2 for science

3)This I thought was so simple I almost didnt want to insult you with a answer. Have you ever googled the circumference of the earth??? Its LOOONNNNGGGGGG Its so long in fact that the curvature is not visible to the human eye. And what do you make of the images recieved from telescopes of other planets????? Also the fact that this theory of a flat earth was dis proven with Columbus????? Im not going to expand on this cause it hurts that ppl actually believe this.

All of this being said, I respect christians and their beliefs. But the bible isnt ment to be taken LITERALLY in every sense. Most main stream denominations accept and believe in the things you are saying are not real. In fact the late pope even accepted the fact that evolution is plausable as long as you accept the fact that the divine imbued the body with a spirit. Dont believe me, google vatican records on this. I have done a university report on this, so don't say I'm lying because Im not.

If you have questions about anything else related to science please feel free to ask and not just stick your heads in the sand and sing LALALALALA. I will help to alleviate your confusion. It is possible to believe in both here people, join the world of 2011

You fools keep saying the same thing day after day. Each time we prove you wrong.

As to your OH so wrong remarks on the Bible, please read the following.

Deuteronomy 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Deuteronomy 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

Proverbs 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
Proverbs 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

Matthew 4:4 Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Romans 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Oh sweet lord where do I begin.

You can begin by dropping to your knees and begging Jesus to forgive you for spitting in His loving face.