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  • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

    Originally posted by Satan'sRocketScientist View Post
    If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen? (1 John 4:20 KJV)
    Yes, that's right. What's your point?
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    Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

    John 5:46,47 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

    Join me in scoffing at backwards Muslims clinging to their beliefs in the face of the evidence!
    The truth about volcanos
    Sex and debauchery in public schools
    Faith wins over science (explained for even the very stupid)
    God Cures AIDS - GLORY!
    Desert whale bones prove Great Flood once and for all.

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    • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

      Originally posted by Redeemed Papist View Post
      Yes, that's right. What's your point?
      if you hate people for showing and explaining the natural laws our universe obeys (having you seen the logic, and deny it claiming it is a lie) but love and praise an idea of a creator for all of existence...

      then I have just one question, what created god?

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      • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

        Originally posted by Vinesaucy View Post
        if you hate people for showing and explaining the natural laws our universe obeys (having you seen the logic, and deny it claiming it is a lie) but love and praise an idea of a creator for all of existence...

        then I have just one question, what created god?
        Tell us what created the Big Bang?

        God existed long before we were made, and He'll be around long after. Who am I to question where God came from?
        Drama queen

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        • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

          Originally posted by Vinesaucy View Post
          then I have just one question, what created god?
          No one crated the Lord for HE always has been from the start because He is the start with no beginning, and the beginning with an end with no ending, and ending with no end, which ends with Him beginning because He is the Beginning and Ending. Neither can you insist that anything came before because He would be before that and after that because eternity is inside of Him and He IS; He is the First and the Last. He is there Before the Before and there After the After.

          Revelation
          22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

          Amen, He IS: if there is a beginning, He IS the Beginning; if there is an ended, He IS the Ending. Heretofore, He absolutely IS.

          Hebrews
          11:6 But without faith it isimpossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

          This should be crystal clear to you now.
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          Psalm 50:22 Now consider this, ye that forget God, lest I tear you in pieces, and there be none to deliver.
          Deuteronomy32:35 To me belongeth vengeance and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste.
          Jerimiah 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.
          Numbers 32:23 But if ye will not do so, behold, ye have sinned against the LORD: and be sure your sin will find you out.
          Leviticus24:14 Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp; and let all that heard him lay their hands upon his head, and let all the congregation stone him.
          Ephesians5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. 5:7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.

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          • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

            If he is a being with control, gestures, knowledge, power; then there must be a beginning. If he existed before time was made, then that emphasizes that everything was made before him. So in short, you believe that god was just a being in existence that was never gifted any power from anything, just naturally wielding it for no reason and decided at some point to create random things like time space and all of the universe.

            and you don't think it would be necessary for something to form this.

            It is a natural paradox, the existence of everything is nothing short of absolute mystery that we will probably work to forever trying to answer. It may be comforting to live blissfully in ignorance but for someone like me, who finds comfort in reality, would rather pursue the truths of the cosmos than try and get brownie points to benefit my hypothetical eternal afterlife

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            • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

              Originally posted by Sporatic Destination View Post
              If..... tl;dr - off topic ......afterlife
              Sorry freind, how is that 'on topic'? Perhaps you meant to post in Shelties.com
              Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
              Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
              Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
              Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
              Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
              Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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              • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

                Originally posted by MitzaLizalor View Post
                What about people who...-not on topic, don't care
                Look at me I'm super moderator who rejects all questions of reality, Shelties.com? Seriously dude maybe today is the day you are going to grow up you're only 40-50 something lol.

                Meanwhile @ showing everyone I know this site plenty of rofl's to go around at the stupidity of all these threads in 'Creation Science' half-assed attempts by people with absolutely no degrees in any legitimate field to debunk all of reality with passages from a book. Typical for conservative morons

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                • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

                  Originally posted by Sporatic Destination View Post
                  If he is a being with control, gestures, knowledge, power; then there must be a beginning. If he existed before time was made, then that emphasizes that everything was made before him. So in short, you believe that god was just a being in existence that was never gifted any power from anything, just naturally wielding it for no reason and decided at some point to create random things like time space and all of the universe.
                  Really? So the Big Bang didn't just happen? What created the "Big Bang"? Couldn't be God, since he doesn't exist (according to you).

                  Anyway, why would it matter if God was created or how? If it was important, He would have mentioned it in the Bible.

                  and you don't think it would be necessary for something to form this.
                  Why? If God showed up on your doorstep tomorrow and told you how he was created (if he was created) then you'd just ask what created that. Does the ant know how He was created? Does he stop obeying his queen because of that?

                  It is a natural paradox, the existence of everything is nothing short of absolute mystery that we will probably work to forever trying to answer. It may be comforting to live blissfully in ignorance but for someone like me, who finds comfort in reality, would rather pursue the truths of the cosmos than try and get brownie points to benefit my hypothetical eternal afterlife
                  It's only a mystery to you people who believe that it can be anything BUT GOD! Aliens are fine with you, Big bang exploding something from nothing is fine, life coming from some mud is fine with you. BUT IT COULDN'T BE GOD, BECAUSE THAT WOULD MEAN THAT YOU HAVE TO QUIT SINNING!
                  Drama queen

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                  • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

                    Originally posted by Sporatic Destination View Post
                    If he is a being with control, gestures, knowledge, power; then there must be a beginning.
                    Friend, yes, Jesus was the Beginning and the Ending.

                    This has already been covered, friend. I suggest that you refer back in the thread.


                    Originally posted by Rev. Edward Clement View Post
                    No one crated the Lord for HE always has been from the start because He is the start with no beginning, and the beginning with an end with no ending, and ending with no end, which ends with Him beginning because He is the Beginning and Ending. Neither can you insist that anything came before because He would be before that and after that because eternity is inside of Him and He IS; He is the First and the Last. He is there Before the Before and there After the After.

                    Revelation
                    22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
                    However, the Lord has already informed us, in His Word, that the spiritually dead cannot perceive what IS there for having eyes to see, they see not.

                    1 Corinthians

                    2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
                    2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
                    2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
                    2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
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                    Psalm 50:22 Now consider this, ye that forget God, lest I tear you in pieces, and there be none to deliver.
                    Deuteronomy32:35 To me belongeth vengeance and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste.
                    Jerimiah 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.
                    Numbers 32:23 But if ye will not do so, behold, ye have sinned against the LORD: and be sure your sin will find you out.
                    Leviticus24:14 Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp; and let all that heard him lay their hands upon his head, and let all the congregation stone him.
                    Ephesians5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. 5:7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.

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                    • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

                      Originally posted by Rev. Edward Clement View Post
                      No one crated the Lord for HE always has been from the start because He is the start with no beginning, and the beginning with an end with no ending, and ending with no end, which ends with Him beginning because He is the Beginning and Ending. Neither can you insist that anything came before because He would be before that and after that because eternity is inside of Him and He IS; He is the First and the Last. He is there Before the Before and there After the After...
                      You're enjoying this, aren't you?

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                      • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

                        Originally posted by Didymus Much View Post
                        You're enjoying this, aren't you?
                        I always enjoy the Lord's Word, which is Jesus. Amen.

                        Proverbs
                        15:23 A man hath joy by the answer of his mouth: and a word spoken in due season, how good is it!

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                        Psalm 50:22 Now consider this, ye that forget God, lest I tear you in pieces, and there be none to deliver.
                        Deuteronomy32:35 To me belongeth vengeance and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste.
                        Jerimiah 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.
                        Numbers 32:23 But if ye will not do so, behold, ye have sinned against the LORD: and be sure your sin will find you out.
                        Leviticus24:14 Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp; and let all that heard him lay their hands upon his head, and let all the congregation stone him.
                        Ephesians5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. 5:7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.

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                        • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

                          Originally posted by MitzaLizalor View Post
                          What about people who are NOT our brothers?
                          PSALM 139
                          21
                          Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
                          22 I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.
                          KJV .. context
                          There is a reason why I posted that. The immense harm done by atheistic "theories" (not to mention the bile they spew at anyone reminding them of The Truth) leads mindless fools, who choose to disregard God's Inerrant Word, directly to HELL.

                          The catastrophe is absolute. Everlasting torture is guaranteed to be unpleasant:

                          MATTHEW 13
                          38b - 39 the tares are the children of the wicked one; The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
                          41 - 42 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
                          43a Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father.
                          49 - 50 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
                          51 Jesus saith unto them, Have ye understood all these things? They say unto him, Yea, Lord.
                          KJV . . look up . context


                          It is not usual persons to gnash when enjoying their experience (eating an icecream, say). Neither do they wail when baa-lambs prance and frolic in the dew. Jesus is very clear that secularists are wicked and that as such will be severed from among the just, cast into the furnace of fire: wailing and gnashing feature strongly in His description. Dew is not mentioned.

                          Secularism desires that outcome for every baby and we detest it. Because it hates God. We present Fact so that Christian parents can show their children Truth. My post was not at all off topic.

                          Originally posted by Sporatic Destination View Post
                          Originally Posted by MitzaLizalor
                          What about people who...-not on topic, don't care
                          Look at me I'm super moderator who rejects all questions of reality

                          You are not a moderator.
                          There's a little trick I've noticed, next to the User Name at the top of every post sometimes there's a shape like this:

                          . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Moderator

                          and that person seems to be a ..what's the word? ..it's on the tip of my tongue ..a ..a (no, sorry it's gone)




                          Originally posted by James Hutchins
                          Originally Posted by Sporatic Destination
                          If..... tl;dr - off topic ......afterlife
                          Sorry friend, how is that 'on topic'?
                          Altogether, I can't see how what Sporatic is posting is on topic either. Obviously, if Mr Hutchins started disagreeing with The Senior Pastors or worshipping goats or something I would shun him but he does not do that and therefore I am in complete agreement with everything he posts. That does NOT mean he and I are the same person. In the secularist theme park no doubt everyone is a little god unto themselves with nary a thought in common. "Hey, the moon is tartan" or "water is not wet" yeah we've heard it all before.

                          ROMANS 1
                          20d - 21 they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
                          22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools
                          KJV


                          Here is the testimony of Daniel. It includes a statement from King Nebuchadnezzar. I hope you find it enlightening.


                          King Nebuchadnezzar's statement is in CHAPTER 4
                          Last edited by MitzaLizalor; 03-21-2013, 04:57 AM. Reason: correct impression that Mr Hutchin's post = off topic which obviously it isn't

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                          • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

                            Originally posted by Vinesaucy View Post
                            if you hate people for showing and explaining the natural laws our universe obeys (having you seen the logic, and deny it claiming it is a lie) but love and praise an idea of a creator for all of existence...

                            then I have just one question, what created god?
                            Oh you big silly. Why start your reasoning with a circular argument? Why assume God needs a creator then base your entire hate campaign on something you haven't proved one way or the other?

                            God was not created by anything or He would have told us in the Bible. That's backed with hard evidence. What have you got? Just your desire for putting things in your bottom.
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                            Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

                            John 5:46,47 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

                            Join me in scoffing at backwards Muslims clinging to their beliefs in the face of the evidence!
                            The truth about volcanos
                            Sex and debauchery in public schools
                            Faith wins over science (explained for even the very stupid)
                            God Cures AIDS - GLORY!
                            Desert whale bones prove Great Flood once and for all.

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                            • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

                              Originally posted by Sporatic Destination View Post
                              Look at me I'm super moderator who rejects all questions of reality, Shelties.com? Seriously dude maybe today is the day you are going to grow up you're only 40-50 something lol.

                              Meanwhile @ showing everyone I know this site plenty of rofl's to go around at the stupidity of all these threads in 'Creation Science' half-assed attempts by people with absolutely no degrees in any legitimate field to debunk all of reality with passages from a book. Typical for conservative mormons
                              Friend, why the hate?

                              Take a breath, relax and think what brought you here. Jesus works in ways that often make no sense to mere mortals: what could have made Jesus bring such a hate filled individual to our friendly little piece of God's great creation?

                              Maybe Jesus senses the emptiness and frustration inside of you. That bile and hate must have come from somewhere, no?

                              Maybe if you tell a pastor your deepest sins and depreaved activities you can come to know Jesus intimately. You too could be Saved(c) as the blood of The Lord washes all of you sins away!

                              Please try to let go of your hate.

                              I will pray for you.

                              YIC
                              1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

                              Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

                              Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

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                              • Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

                                ARE YOU PEOPLE CRAZY OR JUST BRAINWASHED? First of all, people on the southern hemisphere wouldn't "Fall off the earth" just because its pointed down. Theres this thing called gravity? Newtons law? Let me ask you this. Go on a cruise around the world and tell me if you fall off the side of the earth into space. Or do you not believe in space either? Can I just point out that if the earth wasn't in a spherical shape, and you jumped, then you wouldn't come back down. Do you people think that technology and science are evil against your religion because they don't defy into whatever god’s plan would be? If you think that, then look at your house. Look at your phones, Tv's, your computer. Your shoes, clothes, hair cut. All of that came from technology. And for the things about being homosexual, doesn’t it say somewhere in your bible “Forgive others of sin, as though you have sinned as well” or something to that sort? Homosexuals are who they are. They are twice the man you are for admitting what they seek in terms of relationships instead of masking it up like you probably do.

                                Warms Regards,
                                Kstauber

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