[Drynwhyl]

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I guess while I'm here as well, I'll give you the truth about god...



Perfection Seeks Even More Perfection
What did God do during that eternity before he created everything? If God was all that existed back then, what disturbed the eternal equilibrium and compelled him to create? Was he bored? Was he lonely? God is supposed to be perfect. If something is perfect, it is complete--it needs nothing else. We humans engage in activities because we are pursuing that elusive perfection, because there is disequilibrium caused by a difference between what we are and what we want to be. If God is perfect, there can be no disequilibrium. There is nothing he needs, nothing he desires, and nothing he must or will do. A God who is perfect does nothing except exist. A perfect creator God is impossible.


Perfection Begets Imperfection

But, for the sake of argument, let's continue. Let us suppose that this perfect God did create the universe. Humans were the crown of his creation, since they were created in God's image and have the ability to make decisions. However, these humans spoiled the original perfection by choosing to disobey God.

What!? If something is perfect, nothing imperfect can come from it. Someone once said that bad fruit cannot come from a good tree, and yet this "perfect" God created a "perfect" universe which was rendered imperfect by the "perfect" humans. The ultimate source of imperfection is God. What is perfect cannot become imperfect, so humans must have been created imperfect. What is perfect cannot create anything imperfect, so God must be imperfect to have created these imperfect humans. A perfect God who creates imperfect humans is impossible.


The Freewill Argument

The Christians' objection to this argument involves freewill. They say that a being must have freewill to be happy. The omnibenevolent God did not wish to create robots, so he gave humans freewill to enable them to experience love and happiness. But the humans used this freewill to choose evil, and introduced imperfection into God's originally perfect universe. God had no control over this decision, so the blame for our imperfect universe is on the humans, not God.

Here is why the argument is weak. First, if God is omnipotent, then the assumption that freewill is necessary for happiness is false. If God could make it a rule that only beings with freewill may experience happiness, then he could just as easily have made it a rule that only robots may experience happiness. The latter option is clearly superior, since perfect robots will never make decisions which could render them or their creator unhappy, whereas beings with freewill could. A perfect and omnipotent God who creates beings capable of ruining their own happiness is impossible.

Second, even if we were to allow the necessity of freewill for happiness, God could have created humans with freewill who did not have the ability to choose evil, but to choose between several good options.
Third, God supposedly has freewill, and yet he does not make imperfect decisions. If humans are miniature images of God, our decisions should likewise be perfect. Also, the occupants of heaven, who presumably must have freewill to be happy, will never use that freewill to make imperfect decisions. Why would the originally perfect humans do differently?

The point remains: the presence of imperfections in the universe disproves the supposed perfection of its creator.


All-good God Knowingly Creates Future Suffering

God is omniscient. When he created the universe, he saw the sufferings which humans would endure as a result of the sin of those original humans. He heard the screams of the damned. Surely he would have known that it would have been better for those humans to never have been born (in fact, the Bible says this very thing), and surely this all-compassionate deity would have foregone the creation of a universe destined to imperfection in which many of the humans were doomed to eternal suffering. A perfectly compassionate being who creates beings which he knows are doomed to suffer is impossible.


Infinite Punishment for Finite Sins

God is perfectly just, and yet he sentences the imperfect humans he created to infinite suffering in hell for finite sins. Clearly, a limited offense does not warrant unlimited punishment. God's sentencing of the imperfect humans to an eternity in hell for a mere mortal lifetime of sin is infinitely more unjust than this punishment. The absurd injustice of this infinite punishment is even greater when we consider that the ultimate source of human imperfection is the God who created them. A perfectly just God who sentences his imperfect creation to infinite punishment for finite sins is impossible.


Belief More Important Than Action

Consider all of the people who live in the remote regions of the world who have never even heard the "gospel" of Jesus Christ. Consider the people who have naturally adhered to the religion of their parents and nation as they had been taught to do since birth. If we are to believe the Christians, all of these people will perish in the eternal fire for not believing in Jesus. It does not matter how just, kind, and generous they have been with their fellow humans during their lifetime: if they do not accept the gospel of Jesus, they are condemned. No just God would ever judge a man by his beliefs rather than his actions.


Perfection's Imperfect Revelation

The Bible is supposedly God's perfect Word. It contains instructions to humankind for avoiding the eternal fires of hell. How wonderful and kind of this God to provide us with this means of overcoming the problems for which he is ultimately responsible! The all-powerful God could have, by a mere act of will, eliminated all of the problems we humans must endure, but instead, in his infinite wisdom, he has opted to offer this indecipherable amalgam of books which is the Bible as a means for avoiding the hell which he has prepared for us. The perfect God has decided to reveal his wishes in this imperfect work, written in the imperfect language of imperfect man, translated, copied, interpreted, voted on, and related by imperfect man.

No two men will ever agree what this perfect word of God is supposed to mean, since much of it is either self- contradictory, or obscured by enigmatic symbols. And yet the perfect God expects us imperfect humans to understand this paradoxical riddle using the imperfect minds with which he has equipped us. Surely the all-wise and all-powerful God would have known that it would have been better to reveal his perfect will directly to each of us, rather than to allow it to be debased and perverted by the imperfect language and botched interpretations of man.


Contradictory Justice

One need look to no source other than the Bible to discover its imperfections, for it contradicts itself and thus exposes its own imperfection. It contradicts itself on matters of justice, for the same just God who assures his people that sons shall not be punished for the sins of their fathers turns around and destroys an entire household for the sin of one man (he had stolen some of Yahweh's war loot). It was this same Yahweh who afflicted thousands of his innocent people with plague and death to punish their evil king David for taking a census (?!). It was this same Yahweh who allowed the humans to slaughter his son because the perfect Yahweh had botched his own creation. Consider how many have been stoned, burned, slaughtered, raped, and enslaved because of Yahweh's skewed sense of justice. The blood of innocent babies is on the perfect, just, compassionate hands of Yahweh.


Contradictory History

The Bible contradicts itself on matters of history. A person who reads and compares the contents of the Bible will be confused about exactly who Esau's wives were, whether Timnah was a concubine or a son, and whether Jesus' earthly lineage is through Solomon or his brother Nathan. These are but a few of hundreds of documented historical contradictions. If the Bible cannot confirm itself in mundane earthly matters, how are we to trust it on moral and spiritual matters?


Unfulfilled Prophecy

The Bible misinterprets its own prophecies. Read Isaiah 7 and compare it to Matthew 1 to find but one of many misinterpreted prophecies of which Christians are either passively or willfully ignorant. The fulfillment of prophecy in the Bible is cited as proof of its divine inspiration, and yet here is but one major example of a prophecy whose intended meaning has been and continues to be twisted to support subsequent absurd and false doctrines. There are no ends to which the credulous will not go to support their feeble beliefs in the face of compelling evidence against them.

The Bible is imperfect. It only takes one imperfection to destroy the supposed perfection of this alleged Word of God. Many have been found. A perfect God who reveals his perfect will in an imperfect book is impossible.


The Omniscient Changes the Future

A God who knows the future is powerless to change it. An omniscient God who is all-powerful and freewilled is impossible.


The Omniscient is Surprised

A God who knows everything cannot have emotions. The Bible says that God experiences all of the emotions of humans, including anger, sadness, and happiness. We humans experience emotions as a result of new knowledge. A man who had formerly been ignorant of his wife's infidelity will experience the emotions of anger and sadness only after he has learned what had previously been hidden. In contrast, the omniscient God is ignorant of nothing. Nothing is hidden from him, nothing new may be revealed to him, so there is no gained knowledge to which he may emotively react.

We humans experience anger and frustration when something is wrong which we cannot fix. The perfect, omnipotent God, however, can fix anything. Humans experience longing for things we lack. The perfect God lacks nothing. An omniscient, omnipotent, and perfect God who experiences emotion is impossible.


The Conclusion of the matter

I have offered arguments for the impossibility, and thus the non- existence, of the Christian God Yahweh. No reasonable and freethinking individual can accept the existence of a being whose nature is so contradictory as that of Yahweh, the "perfect" creator of our imperfect universe. The existence of Yahweh is as impossible as the existence of cubic spheres or invisible pink unicorns.

Should any Christian who reads this persist in defending these impossibilities through means of "divine transcendence" and "faith," and should any Christian continue to call me an atheist fool, I will be forced to invoke the wrath of the Invisible Pink Unicorn:

"You are a fool for denying the existence of the IPU. You have rejected true faith and have relied on your feeble powers of human reason and thus arrogantly denied the existence of Her Divine Transcendence, and so are you condemned."

If such arguments are good enough for Yahweh, they are good enough for Her Invisible Pinkness.
As for me and my house, we shall choose reality.









<---- P.S. He was the same colour as all the muslims you are hating on...

[BelieverInGod]

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[Thy Horror Cosmic]

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I really hope you Christians are just trolling, because if not, I'm moving out of this backwards country as soon as possible.

Obviously NONE of you are familiar with the book you base all of your ideals, morals, and ethics upon (which is not only hilarious because none of you can think for yourself, but also because this "holy" book includes acts of violence against those that violate your "sacred beliefs," such as haircuts. Think of that next time you decide to go for a trim). If you were, you'd instantly recall a passage that states that so-called disciples of "god" should not judge others; it is left up to "god" itself. So, in violation of this, all of you that assume the role of your deity, blaspheming its essence in the process, are to be condemned to hell just as surely as those you claim will be similarly condemned for being "heretics."

In short, you're all just as much of sinners as those you so righteously condemn.

You christians never cease to outdo yourselves when it comes to ignorance. Exhibit A:

Enjoy your sad, fruitless lives, which will surely prove themselves to be a waste as you slowly realize there is no afterlife!

Perhaps if you christians weren't so hateful, thick-headed and ignorant, non-believers would take you more seriously. Instead, you decide to base all of your "personal" thoughts and feelings on a book; the meaning of which has been lost by time and numerous translations. You're all nothing but bigots and the sole reason why I cannot wait until the end of the days, just so you're all proven wrong once and for all. Maybe then you'll step off your holy pedestal.

[Thy Horror Cosmic]

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I suppose you just ignore anyone that doesn't share your absolutely mormonic beliefs, right? Considering the first post in this thread was just as long-winded...but that's ok, because you agreed with it! Way to be a sheep. I hope you savor your meaningless existence, because I sure will.

Also, "Unsaved trash?" Really?

I know you guys need something to make yourselves feel better about worshipping your common imaginary friend, but I don't think labeling all of those who are of a different belief system as "trash" is appropriate. Maybe you guys should try yoga. Or meditation. Or maybe you need a good punch in the piffleing head so you'll realize how braindead all of you really are.

[Sam Diamond]

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I really hope you Christians are just trolling, because if not, I'm moving out of this backwards country as soon as possible.

Obviously NONE of you are familiar with the book you base all of your ideals, morals, and ethics upon (which is not only hilarious because none of you can think for yourself, but also because this "holy" book includes acts of violence against those that violate your "sacred beliefs," such as haircuts. Think of that next time you decide to go for a trim). If you were, you'd instantly recall a passage that states that so-called disciples of "god" should not judge others; it is left up to "god" itself. So, in violation of this, all of you that assume the role of your deity, blaspheming its essence in the process, are to be condemned to hell just as surely as those you claim will be similarly condemned for being "heretics."

In short, you're all just as much of sinners as those you so righteously condemn.

You christians never cease to outdo yourselves when it comes to ignorance. Exhibit A:

Enjoy your sad, fruitless lives, which will surely prove themselves to be a waste as you slowly realize there is no afterlife!

Perhaps if you christians weren't so hateful, thick-headed and ignorant, non-believers would take you more seriously. Instead, you decide to base all of your "personal" thoughts and feelings on a book; the meaning of which has been lost by time and numerous translations. You're all nothing but bigots and the sole reason why I cannot wait until the end of the days, just so you're all proven wrong once and for all. Maybe then you'll step off your holy pedestal.

I will make this rebuke short and sweet.
first off this thread is on the subject of proving the earth is flat. It seems that you do have a reading comprehension problem.

Secondly we as True Christians are indeed commissioned to judge the unrighteous. If need be I will produce said scripture, but I have a feeling you will not comprehend what is written. Now we follow the Word of God right down to the period, so if you feel that we are bigots for doing so, there is little help for you.

Have a great day, Sam Diamond.

[Thy Horror Cosmic]

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I will make this rebuke short and sweet.
first off this thread is on the subject of proving the earth is flat. It seems that you do have a reading comprehension problem.

Secondly we as True Christians are indeed commissioned to judge the unrighteous. If need be I will produce said scripture, but I have a feeling you will not comprehend what is written. Now we follow the Word of God right down to the period, so if you feel that we are bigots for doing so, there is little help for you.

Have a great day, Sam Diamond.

Yes, because a thread can go one for over 200 pages without ever changing topics. EVER. TOPIC CHANGES DO NOT HAPPEN.

In case you're incredibly thick (which you are):

Did you ever happen to think that maybe I just don't care? Not only have the actions of the christian religion truly instilled the idea that you're all idiotic sheep, but the fact that the lack of ridiculously exaggerated motion when someone jumps is considered proof of a flat earth to you simpletons was enough for me to register in an attempt to slap some sense into you imbeciles.

And there you go again, judging me as impaired when really, you just have no argument whatsoever, which is why you decided to personally attack me rather than attempt to prove me wrong. You instead decided to pull a "fact" out of thin air. Can you prove you are a "true christian?" Can you prove such scriptures are even the word of god? No, you can't. I'm sure you'd just love to rebuke with something along the lines of "BUT CAN U PROVE GOD DOESNT EXIST??? LOL" but hopefully you'd realize, before you decide to let the fiery, ignorant bigot inside you take hold of your individuality, that proving a negative is impossible. Much like a human child being born without the seed of a father, only to "magically" cure ailments before being crucified and resurrecting three days later is...yes, you guessed it: IMPOSSIBLE.

The fact that you blindly follow a book some random guy claimed as the word of god is more than enough for me to realize the christian religion is nothing more than a mindless cult.

Suffice to say, I don't need your "help."

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

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I really hope you Christians are just trolling, because if not, I'm moving out of this backwards country as soon as possible.

I certainly hope it is not God's Favorite Country you are talking about, buster!

Obviously NONE of you are familiar with the book you base all of your ideals, morals, and ethics upon (which is not only hilarious because none of you can think for yourself, but also because this "holy" book includes acts of violence against those that violate your "sacred beliefs," such as haircuts. Think of that next time you decide to go for a trim). If you were, you'd instantly recall a passage that states that so-called disciples of "god" should not judge others; it is left up to "god" itself. So, in violation of this, all of you that assume the role of your deity, blaspheming its essence in the process, are to be condemned to hell just as surely as those you claim will be similarly condemned for being "heretics."

I'm afraid you are simply wrong on all counts. Obviously you have never read the Bible.

Leviticus 19:15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

Psalm 37:30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.

Proverbs 31:9 Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.

John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

1 Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

In short, you're all just as much of sinners as those you so righteously condemn.

You christians never cease to outdo yourselves when it comes to ignorance. Exhibit A:

Enjoy your sad, fruitless lives, which will surely prove themselves to be a waste as you slowly realize there is no afterlife!

Perhaps if you christians weren't so hateful, thick-headed and ignorant, non-believers would take you more seriously. Instead, you decide to base all of your "personal" thoughts and feelings on a book; the meaning of which has been lost by time and numerous translations. You're all nothing but bigots and the sole reason why I cannot wait until the end of the days, just so you're all proven wrong once and for all. Maybe then you'll step off your holy pedestal.

You will be in for a surprise when you die. Because you do not believe in the Bible, or the afterlife of which it teaches, or the God who wrote it, you will be frying in Hell for all eternity, on the receiving end of Satan's serrated tallywacker. We, on the other hand, will be laughing at you from on high, rejoicing in your suffering.

[BelieverInGod]

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I really hope you Christians are just trolling, because if not, I'm moving out of this backwards country as soon as possible.

Bye

Obviously NONE of you are familiar with the book you base all of your ideals, morals, and ethics upon (which is not only hilarious because none of you can think for yourself, but also because this "holy" book includes acts of violence against those that violate your "sacred beliefs," such as haircuts. Think of that next time you decide to go for a trim). If you were, you'd instantly recall a passage that states that so-called disciples of "god" should not judge others; it is left up to "god" itself. So, in violation of this, all of you that assume the role of your deity, blaspheming its essence in the process, are to be condemned to hell just as surely as those you claim will be similarly condemned for being "heretics."

Exactly where are we Biblically incorrect? All I'm seeing is a bunch of fuzzy bunny stuff that isn't in the Bible. Not only are we allowed to judge, but we are COMMANDED to judge.

1st Corinthians 6:2-3 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?.

2nd Timothy 4:1-2 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

The "Judge not lest ye be judged" that you're half trying to quote there, is a command to not judge hypocritically.

In short, you're all just as much of sinners as those you so righteously condemn.

Yeah, you all want to believe that, don't you. It's how you make excuses for your own degregated life. Well Christians sin, so I can too. Do you really think that's going to cut it on Judgment day?

You christians never cease to outdo yourselves when it comes to ignorance. Exhibit A:

I have 2 bachelors, my husband has an MBA and a B.Eng., others on this board are much better educated than us, please explain this ignorance you speak of.

Enjoy your sad, fruitless lives, which will surely prove themselves to be a waste as you slowly realize there is no afterlife!

Lets say your right, and there is no afterlife, what have I lost? Nothing. Lets say I'm right and there is an afterlife; well it sucks to be you, doesn't it.

Perhaps if you christians weren't so hateful, thick-headed and ignorant, non-believers would take you more seriously. Instead, you decide to base all of your "personal" thoughts and feelings on a book; the meaning of which has been lost by time and numerous translations. You're all nothing but bigots and the sole reason why I cannot wait until the end of the days, just so you're all proven wrong once and for all. Maybe then you'll step off your holy pedestal.

Ah, I just love that warm glow you feel from an atheists tolerance. BTW, you're an atheist who believes in the end of days? A little confused aren't we?

I suppose you just ignore anyone that doesn't share your absolutely mormonic beliefs, right? Considering the first post in this thread was just as long-winded...but that's ok, because you agreed with it! Way to be a sheep. I hope you savor your meaningless existence, because I sure will.

No I basically ignore garbage that some snot nosed kid stole from a hate site.

Also, "Unsaved trash?" Really?

Yeah, really.

I know you guys need something to make yourselves feel better about worshipping your common imaginary friend, but I don't think labeling all of those who are of a different belief system as "trash" is appropriate. Maybe you guys should try yoga. Or meditation. Or maybe you need a good punch in the piffleing head so you'll realize how braindead all of you really are.

Everyone who comes on here starts as unsaved trash. Face it princess, you're not that special.

[Thy Horror Cosmic]

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I certainly hope it is not God's Favorite Country you are talking about, buster!

I'm afraid you are simply wrong on all counts. Obviously you have never read the Bible.

Leviticus 19:15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

Psalm 37:30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.

Proverbs 31:9 Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.

John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

1 Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

You will be in for a surprise when you die. Because you do not believe in the Bible, or the afterlife of which it teaches, or the God who wrote it, you will be frying in Hell for all eternity, on the receiving end of Satan's serrated tallywacker. We, on the other hand, will be laughing at you from on high, rejoicing in your suffering.

If you mean the United States (which is laughable in itself because there's no reason "god's" favorite country would be the U.S.), then yes, I am. This country is a cesspit, mainly because of its foundations on an incredibly imbecilic religion.

You're aware the bible contradicts itself numerous times, right? But that's ok. We'll just ignore the contradictory passages because that would make you look like an idiot. We all know you're doing a great job already. But, just for fun, let's look at a few...

Matthew 7:1-5 (NIV)
“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
“Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.

Rom. 2: 1-3 (NIV)
You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. Now we know that God's judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. So when you, a mere man, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God's judgment?

Oh, look at that. The bible telling you not to judge. How hilarious.

Can you truly call yourself a christian whilst rejoicing the suffering of others? Such a notion is so barbaric that I cannot even wrap my mind around it. Here I was, thinking religion was a gathering of love and peace throughout mankind, when all you're really doing is finding ludicrous ways to cover up your sins by funneling them through a righteous filter while building tax-exempt organizations for your own personal gain. You're nothing but a cult full of excuses. Your religion is every bit as corrupt as Scientology, as well as other malicious cults.

"Rejoicing in another's suffering is wrong, but not when you're me, and the other person is a heretic!"

Instead of judging others and making it your life mission to cause misery for others by viewing them as lower beings, why not just be peaceful? For a christian, you seem pretty hateful. In fact, I'm fairly sure that you've sinned quite recently...wrath, perhaps? Your signature shows strong evidence of wrath...

2 Chronicles 15:13
Whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.

You're animals. Insecure animals who can't accept differences to the point that you wish death upon them. Congratulations. Your rights as humans have been revoked.

One last thing: you do realize that "Satan" is not the "ruler" of hell, yes? Yet another piece of evidence that all you know is bible passages filled with hate and realized descriptions of "hell," which do not even include fire as you assume. If Satan is too busy anally raping me in a "fiery hell," who's going to anally rape everyone else? Satan can't rape everyone at once.

Oh, I've received an infraction because the leaders of this pathetic forum do not agree with me. You've done nothing but prove my point; thank you. It's nice to hear straight from the leaders that you're just as full of it as I've been saying. Appreciate it!

BelieverinGod, you're a dolt, simple as that. The fact of the matter is, no matter how you judge, you are being hypocritical. You cannot judge another because you, among everyone else, have flaws. To judge others whilst in the possession of personal flaws is hypocritical. Thus, you are in violation of your own holy book.

Also, if you're going to play the bachelor's degree card, why aren't you smart enough to realize the initial post is complete and utter drivel?

I suppose I'm fighting a losing battle here, but it was fun while it lasted. Enjoy your false sense of superiority, folks.

[Lisa H]

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blah, blah, blah. Look at me.
I suppose I'm fighting a losing battle here, but it was fun while it lasted.

You are fighting a losing battle. God always wins over Satan

[Cranky Old Man]

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You're aware the bible contradicts itself numerous times, right?

No it does not. Just try to find one example of that. You will fail!

Oh, look at that. The bible telling you not to judge. How hilarious.

There is always something called context. Rev. Jim Osborne wrote an excellent piece on this: The Most MISUNDERSTOOD Passage in All the Bible (Matthew 7:1-5).

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

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If you mean the United States (which is laughable in itself because there's no reason "god's" favorite country would be the U.S.), then yes, I am. This country is a cesspit, mainly because of its foundations on an incredibly imbecilic religion.

You're aware the bible contradicts itself numerous times, right? But that's ok. We'll just ignore the contradictory passages because that would make you look like an idiot. We all know you're doing a great job already. But, just for fun, let's look at a few...

Oh, look at that. The bible telling you not to judge. How hilarious.

Can you truly call yourself a christian whilst rejoicing the suffering of others? Such a notion is so barbaric that I cannot even wrap my mind around it. Here I was, thinking religion was a gathering of love and peace throughout mankind, when all you're really doing is finding ludicrous ways to cover up your sins by funneling them through a righteous filter while building tax-exempt organizations for your own personal gain. You're nothing but a cult full of excuses. Your religion is every bit as corrupt as Scientology, as well as other malicious cults.

"Rejoicing in another's suffering is wrong, but not when you're me, and the other person is a heretic!"

Instead of judging others and making it your life mission to cause misery for others by viewing them as lower beings, why not just be peaceful? For a christian, you seem pretty hateful. In fact, I'm fairly sure that you've sinned quite recently...wrath, perhaps? Your signature shows strong evidence of wrath...

You're animals. Insecure animals who can't accept differences to the point that you wish death upon them. Congratulations. Your rights as humans have been revoked.

One last thing: you do realize that "Satan" is not the "ruler" of hell, yes? Yet another piece of evidence that all you know is bible passages filled with hate and realized descriptions of "hell," which do not even include fire as you assume. If Satan is too busy anally raping me in a "fiery hell," who's going to anally rape everyone else? Satan can't rape everyone at once.

Last thing first: you will be in Hell for all eternity. Satan will have plenty of time to get around to raping you.

The passages you quoted only forbid hypocritical judgment. That means as long as I don't do the thing I am passing judgment on, I am in the clear. Learn to read.

There is nothing wrong with rejoicing in the suffering of rebels who spit on the Baby Jesus. They deserve no less than eternal torture. All merciful God is in agreement with us. He is the one who is sending you there.

The difference between us an Scientology is that we follow Jesus. So we are going to Heaven and they are going to Hell. It's that simple. None of the rest of your crap matters.

Hate us all you want. We are blessed by your persecution:

Matthew 5:10-11 10Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Matthew 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

Matthew 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

Luke 21:17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.

Romans 12:14 Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not.

1 Corinthians 4:12 And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:

We get our example straight from God. How are we any less loving than the Lord God shows Himself to be in the Holy Bible? We are perfect and Godly people here at Landover Baptist. We are TRUE Christians™.

[BelieverInGod]

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If you mean the United States (which is laughable in itself because there's no reason "god's" favorite country would be the U.S.), then yes, I am. This country is a cesspit, mainly because of its foundations on an incredibly imbecilic religion.

Then go. See what other country even wants you.

You're aware the bible contradicts itself numerous times, right? But that's ok. We'll just ignore the contradictory passages because that would make you look like an idiot. We all know you're doing a great job already. But, just for fun, let's look at a few...





Oh, look at that. The bible telling you not to judge. How hilarious.

Would have helped if you used the REAL Bible KJV1611. But anyway, lets look at what you've posted.

Matthew 7:1-5 (KJV)
1Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.


Rom. 2: 1-3 (KJV)

1Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.
2But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things.
3And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?


Again, it's against hypocritical judgement, is your reading comprehension really that bad?

whine, whine, whine......

You're animals. Insecure animals who can't accept differences to the point that you wish death upon them. Congratulations. Your rights as humans have been revoked.

We don't wish death on anyone. God ORDERS death on unbelievers.
Romans 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

One last thing: you do realize that "Satan" is not the "ruler" of hell, yes? Yet another piece of evidence that all you know is bible passages filled with hate and realized descriptions of "hell," which do not even include fire as you assume. If Satan is too busy anally raping me in a "fiery hell," who's going to anally rape everyone else? Satan can't rape everyone at once.

Never heard of demons? I'm sure that God has everything under control.

more childish whining.

BelieverinGod, you're a dolt, simple as that. The fact of the matter is, no matter how you judge, you are being hypocritical. You cannot judge another because you, among everyone else, have flaws. To judge others whilst in the possession of personal flaws is hypocritical. Thus, you are in violation of your own holy book.

So if I say that child rapists are bad, I'm a hypocrite? If I say eating feces is bad, I'm a hypocrite? If I say raping the dog is bad, I'm a hypocrite?

Also, if you're going to play the bachelor's degree card, why aren't you smart enough to realize the initial post is complete and utter drivel?

Because I'm smart enough to know that the more science I read the more I heard the words "conjecture", "popular belief", "studies show". A text book that's more than 2 years old is hopelessly outdated because theories keep changing. Yet the Bible has stood the test of time for over 2,000 years. It wasn't until the 1970's that people started trying to change it into the hundreds of versions you see today.

I suppose I'm fighting a losing battle here, but it was fun while it lasted. Enjoy your false sense of superiority, folks.

You poor demon infested being, if only you realized the True Power and Glory of Christ.

[Sam Diamond]

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@ Horror Comic( Fitting its Holloween)
Why all the hate? Jesus needs you to love Him, why not accept the simple fact and love Jesus. Do you want to go to hell? He is reaching out to you, grab His hand and follow Him to Heaven.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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I really hope you Christians are just trolling, because if not, I'm moving out of this backwards country as soon as possible.

Please do. One less atheist is fine by Landover

Obviously NONE of you are familiar with the book

If we have misquoted Scripture or our understanding of Scripture is wrong, point it out and let us know.

If you were, you'd instantly recall a passage that states that so-called disciples of "god" should not judge others; it is left up to "god" itself.

First God gets a capital letter, next it is NOT god itself, but God Himself. Finally, you show me scripture to support your view; here's my scripture to say you know nothing about Christianity (and that is a righteous judgment on you):

Leviticus 19:15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

1 Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

1st Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
1st Corinthians 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?.
1st Corinthians 6:4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.

Son, you think you know Jesus but Satan has told you lies. Stay with Landover and we will put you right!