[Iplaytf2]

Re: If the Earth is flat...

Win, what?


Mark 8:36

For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

Ok, well, another question. How do Lunar Eclipses work to you people?????

[handmaiden]

Re: If the Earth is flat...

Ok, well, another question. How do Lunar Eclipses work to you people?????

Boy, are you worked up about the moon! Why is that more important than your immortal soul?


Also, do you have any thoughts on significant moral issues that the Bible addresses, like genocide, slavery, rape and capitol punishment? Or is everything about the pretty lights in the sky with you?

[Didymus Much]

Re: If the Earth is flat...

Ok, well, another question. How do Lunar Eclipses work to you people?????

The Bible explains it.


So many come here and claim to have read the Bible, yet cannot remember what it says. I wonder why that is?

[Iplaytf2]

Re: If the Earth is flat...

Boy, are you worked up about the moon! Why is that more important than your immortal soul?


Also, do you have any thoughts on significant moral issues that the Bible addresses, like genocide, slavery, rape and capitol punishment? Or is everything about the pretty lights in the sky with you?

I don't wanna hear that, I want to hear you explain how one works on a flat Earth model


Hint: IT DOESNT, AND YET, THERE ARE LUNAR ECLIPSES, WHICH SHOW A R O U N D E A R T H

[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: If the Earth is flat...

Half moon, crescent moon, whatever this on is, it's flat. The moon is flat, always has been, always will be. Get over it.

[handmaiden]

Re: If the Earth is flat...

I don't wanna hear that, I want to hear you explain how one works on a flat Earth model

Why, precisely, should I bother to explain anything of that sort to you? I have made no declaration of being a scientist. Indeed, an interest in science isn't what led me to accept Jesus as my Personal Lord and Savior all those decades ago.

I explored the claims of the Bible and believed in its words because I cared about knowing God and being a good person. As I began to closely read the Bible, I came to understand that some of my cherished ideas of what it meant to be a good person didn't square with specific concepts and commandments in the Bible. So, I spent a lot of time in prayer and kept reading and--long story short--I ended up here, at Landover Baptist Church.

I didn't end up in an observatory, because the moral conditions of life on earth as well as the-- I guess you could say-- spiritual truths of the universe mattered more to me than the shape, texture and depths of any heavenly bodies.

So, you can ask me to explain all sorts of things that you already claim to understand and then I can salvo back by asking you what you think regarding some of the serious moral issues discussed in the Bible. You stated that you have read the book three times so you ought to be able to offer some insights on its contents, but you don't. (Why you don't is actually the only remotely interesting thing about you at this point.)

As for your following proclamation:

Hint: IT DOESNT, AND YET, THERE ARE LUNAR ECLIPSES, WHICH SHOW A R O U N D E A R T H

Other, more learned individuals here have already addressed your assertions on this subject. I haven't bothered for the simple reason that I D O N ' T C A R E.

I care about the Bible and the meaning of faith and their profound influence on human history. That is why I am here.

Now, I ask you, my somewhat spurious friend, why are you here?

[Iplaytf2]

Re: If the Earth is flat...

Why, precisely, should I bother to explain anything of that sort to you? I have made no declaration of being a scientist. Indeed, an interest in science isn't what led me to accept Jesus as my Personal Lord and Savior all those decades ago.

I explored the claims of the Bible and believed in its words because I cared about knowing God and being a good person. As I began to closely read the Bible, I came to understand that some of my cherished ideas of what it meant to be a good person didn't square with specific concepts and commandments in the Bible. So, I spent a lot of time in prayer and kept reading and--long story short--I ended up here, at Landover Baptist Church.

I didn't end up in an observatory, because the moral conditions of life on earth as well as the-- I guess you could say-- spiritual truths of the universe mattered more to me than the shape, texture and depths of any heavenly bodies.

So, you can ask me to explain all sorts of things that you already claim to understand and then I can salvo back by asking you what you think regarding some of the serious moral issues discussed in the Bible. You stated that you have read the book three times so you ought to be able to offer some insights on its contents, but you don't. (Why you don't is actually the only remotely interesting thing about you at this point.)

As for your following proclamation:

Other, more learned individuals here have already addressed your assertions on this subject. I haven't bothered for the simple reason that I D O N ' T C A R E.

I care about the Bible and the meaning of faith and their profound influence on human history. That is why I am here.

Now, I ask you, my somewhat spurious friend, why are you here?

Well guess what, you people are only a small percentage of the population. And we don't care about you people either. Go to hell.

[handmaiden]

Re: If the Earth is flat...

Well guess what, you people are only a small percentage of the population. And we don't care about you people either. Go to hell.

Aww, bless your little heart. I needed a little laughter in my day. Thanks for being so predictable. You may not be making any real sense, but you've arrived at the very same place as so many obtuse trolls before you.


And little one, let me assure you that my knowledge of the Bible has instilled in me an utter and profound confidence that I will not be going to Hell.


It's a wonderful feeling, by the way. I wish the same to all humankind.

[Didymus Much]

Re: If the Earth is flat...

Well guess what, you people are only a small percentage of the population...

Someone, somewhere, is yelling "BINGO!" after filling their "atheist fallacy" card.

...And we don't care about you people either. Go to hell.

The hell that you don't believe in. Logic intensifies.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: If the Earth is flat...

The moon is round. If it was not round, it would look distorted everywhere EXCEPT overhead.

..er ..the moon IS overhead.

Here is another round object.



It is a Scottish penny from the early 14th century. Clearly it is the same shape as the moon, according to your own arguments. And if you stick it on the ceiling of an igloo you'd have a very good approximation to what God explains in The Bible. By drilling through the igloo you could even see it edgeways but so far nobody's drilled through The Firmament.

As you haven't addressed my example of the round coin, we'll assume that we agree. The next problem is that using your ideas about lunar and solar motion requires both objects to have momentum. We've established that eclipses occur when the sun passes in front of the moon so the moon is obscured—this happens every month—or, less frequently, when the moon obscures the sun. There are other theories but here we're addressing your confusion and that requires them to be moving in very specific ways. What happens according to your theory when they both stop? What happens when the sun moves backwards? These are historical events where conservation of momentum (or angular momentum in the case of a ball-shaped earth weighing many tons) fails bigly.

Without coming out categorically for one particular model of how objects are attached to The Firmament, any theory requiring gargantuan momentum to be overcome in just a few minutes—an hour, tops—cannot be plausible. Notice I'm not saying it's false: there needs to be an explanation: it's a solution I'd be very interested to hear.

[Iplaytf2]

Re: If the Earth is flat...

Half moon, crescent moon, whatever this on is, it's flat. The moon is flat, always has been, always will be. Get over it.

That is a solar eclipse kind sir. im talking about a lunar eclipse, one where the earth goes inbetween the moon and the sun. And you can't say it doesn't exist.

[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: If the Earth is flat...

That is a solar eclipse kind sir. im talking about a lunar eclipse, one where the earth goes inbetween the moon and the sun. And you can't say it doesn't exist.

How about we do some actual science here. What I will describe is a science project teachers at Freehold Public Schools do every term.

The next time there is a full moon, cut out a circle from a piece of cardboard. Make the circle about the same size as the full moon you are looking at.

Then, hold the cardboard in front of the moon. If you move it slightly to the left or to the right you have a crescent moon. Guess what. The moon is flat, the cardboard is flat. That's proof of the flat moon and earth God created.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: If the Earth is flat...

That is a solar eclipse kind sir. im talking about a lunar eclipse, one where the earth goes inbetween the moon and the sun. And you can't say it doesn't exist.

Yes. I've seaen it, on a hill at sunrise when there's a full moon. Pretty obvious really - but that doesn't mean they're not attached to The Firmament. Just out of curiosity, what shape do you think it is?

[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: If the Earth is flat...

Ok, well, another question. How do Lunar Eclipses work to you people?????

Such a condescending way of discussing science! I discussed this in another of your uniformed posts--but ok, maybe if I explain it more slowly my student will understand.

Eclipses are simply one flat surface passing in front of another. Cut out a piece of cardboard the size of the full (flat) moon you are looking at. Move the cardboard slowly across your view of the moon and you have completed the experiment. You have done a lab exorcise simulating an eclipse.

[Iplaytf2]

Re: If the Earth is flat...

Such a condescending way of discussing science! I discussed this in another of your uniformed posts--but ok, maybe if I explain it more slowly my student will understand.

Eclipses are simply one flat surface passing in front of another. Cut out a piece of cardboard the size of the full (flat) moon you are looking at. Move the cardboard slowly across your view of the moon and you have completed the experiment. You have done a lab exorcise simulating an eclipse.

Huh, funny, you do know that a lunar eclipse is when the earth goes inbetween the sun and moon, and the reason we see one side if the moon is of a concept called TIDALLY LOCKING.