[BelieverInGod]

Re: Symbolism

Every thing you have just said can just as easily be directed toward you. All you have proven is your inability to think that you might actually be wrong. This is why more people have died fighting religious battles than any other.

And it's always nice to see how you assume I don't believe in God just becasue you think your description of God is somehow correct.

We have the KJV Bible, God's Holy Word to back up our assertions

You have the voices in your head

[RomanK]

Re: Symbolism

God is not defined by a religion, it is the other way around: True religion is defined by - and through grace given to us - by God.
Ephesians 1:9 .. Ephesians 2:5 .. III John 1:11

We follow what comes to us from God - He does not manufacture Himself in our image, as you suggest.

There in lye the rub. God is not defined by a religion. And therefore can not be, in good consciousness, attributed to what man has created. Only though man and their need to control does god ahve a place.

The entire bible is based on experience of man and what man considered to be god. Yet I have seen not one story about God itself.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Symbolism

There in lye the rub. God is not defined by a religion. And therefore can not be, in good consciousness, attributed to what man has created. Only though man and their need to control does god ahve a place.

The entire bible is based on experience of man and what man considered to be god. Yet I have seen not one story about God itself.

Who are you trying to convince of this, Roman? Us or yourself? You'll never convince us that the Bible isn't 100% fake!

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Symbolism

There in lye the rub. God is not defined by a religion. And therefore can not be, in good consciousness, attributed to what man has created. Only though man and their need to control does god ahve a place.

The entire bible is based on experience of man and what man considered to be god. Yet I have seen not one story about God itself.

So I say "God is not defined by a religion"
..and you reply: Aha! but "..God is not defined by a religion"
We DO NOT attribute divine attributes to what man has created, YOU DO. Geometry & mathematics (which includes arithmetic and algebra before you start deifying them too) are incomplete and imperfect human inventions used to describe the world around us. If they were complete or perfect there would be no new publications in academic journals.
Consider a right angle of 90°
It can be divided into 3 smaller angles of 30° each and OH LOOK AT THAT one of those smaller angles IS EXACTLY HALF OF THE REMAINING THREE!
..er yes, we divided the right angle into three equal parts.
AND LOOK! AND LOOK! THERE ARE 3 ANGLES AND EACH ONE IS 30° AND 3x30 IS 90!! sorry, that isn't magic. It's just because we describe a circle as 360° -- and before you say THAT is magic, we don't ONLY define a circle as 360°, we also describe angles as radians
(..in which case there are 2pi radians in a circle)

I don't normally use lye, by the way




I usually use sugar soap, but cloudy ammonia also gets good reports



I hope this is helpful. Someone else will be along soon to discuss radians with you, perhaps.

[RomanK]

Re: Symbolism

Yet you say religion is defined by God so how in fact can God be defined by a religion and that relgion be true if it is religion that defines God? Therefore the interpretation of man.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Symbolism

Yet you say religion is defined by God so how in fact can God be defined by a religion and that relgion be true if it is religion that defines God? Therefore the interpretation of man.

You've been smoking nigra weed, haven't you.

I'll bet you think you're making sense.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Symbolism

Yet you say religion is defined by God so how in fact can God be defined by a religion and that relgion be true if it is religion that defines God? …

very thought provoking - I will be thinking about that sentence all night.
often we dream answers, but I can't comment how reliable dreams might be .. ..

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Symbolism

[...]The entire bible is based on experience of man and what man considered to be god.[...]

Just one minute... the Book of Genesis tells of a time before man - how would that be possible, if what you say were true?

Yet I have seen not one story about God itself.

There are plenty of direct quotes from God in the Bible. The next point requires you to think back to a time when bosses had secretaries to whom they dictated letters. There may be no reference to the boss but nevertheless, we accept that he was there and that the letter is his words. The same is true of God - He makes his thoughts, opinions, commands, etc., known and they are recorded for all to read in that most wonderful of Manuals For Life Eternal, KJV1611.

Yet you say religion is defined by God so how in fact can God be defined by a religion and that religion be true if it is religion that defines God? Therefore the interpretation of man.

Look, it’s very simple; God dictates to inspired men His Word (KJV1611). His Word is the manual for Life Eternal. You follow the manual, you get to heaven. The correct way to follow the manual is the way Landover Baptist Church follows it. The flavour of Baptism preached by Landover is therefore the One True Path to Heaven.

A path to Heaven is a religion. Baptist Men have therefore organized to ensure that their dependants and descendants and followers get to heaven. Baptism is the only way to Heaven. You may wish to call it a religion but, some say, more than a religion, it is the only way.


Edited to answer more fool questions...

[RomanK]

Re: Symbolism

Luke 17:20-21 says heaven is within. If heaven is within how can their be a path to it other than to know thy own self? Landover the only path to0 heaven, thats a little presumptuous.

[Lisa H]

Re: Symbolism

Luke 17:20-21 says heaven is within. If heaven is within how can their be a path to it other than to know thy own self? Landover the only path to0 heaven, thats a little presumptuous.

You need to re-read the verse;

Luke 17
20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Now go away and think about what it says. Then come back with your answer.

[RomanK]

Re: Symbolism

That neither part ended with a !

[Lisa H]

Re: Symbolism

That neither part ended with a !

You did not read the verse and understand it. Now go and do as I asked.

[RomanK]

Re: Symbolism

R U sure your reading it right? Cause I don't think I will ever understand it like you.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Symbolism

R U sure your reading it right? Cause I don't think I will ever understand it like you.

That no surprise considering your orginal post

Luke 17:20-21 says heaven is within. If heaven is within how can their be a path to it other than to know thy own self? Landover the only path to0 heaven, thats a little presumptuous.

So you think the way to Heaven is by masturbating. Nice. But meanwhile back in the real world Christians have understood Jesus wasn't advocating sexual depravity with this verse.

[RomanK]

Re: Symbolism

I love how how christians throw out scripture saying this is a metatphore, or that was a parable, oh wait that was a simile or an analogy, yet turn around and regard it as a literal interpreation of God when it is vauge at best. I guess your God is the God of Confussion. Or Set as it were. That's the best way to turn a buck, keep em guessing. Je$u$... this is the correct spelling.

Just remember it says in the bible as well, let your yes mean yes and your no mean no, all else is evil. Just like every conversation you've ever had.