[DorkHawk]

Re: SHOUT GLORY! - GOD MOCKS SCIENCE BY CREATING NEW LIFE FORM.

Will a moderator please smack this jokester with a Bible? he thinks his bold text is subtle.

I bolded my text for a reason. Don't think I'm an idiot, I know a lot more about science than half of you guys probably do.

[Johannes Kirkeholm]

Re: SHOUT GLORY! - GOD MOCKS SCIENCE BY CREATING NEW LIFE FORM.

I bolded my text for a reason. Don't think I'm an idiot, I know a lot more about science than half of you guys probably do.

And that is exactly what makes you an idiot. We True Christians(tm) are smart enough to see through the lies.

[Titus Templeton]

Re: SHOUT GLORY! - GOD MOCKS SCIENCE BY CREATING NEW LIFE FORM.

I feel really, really happy in this great Moment!!

Brothers and Sisters, how beautifull is that. God our Father has send us some new animals, and we can do with it what we want! First question that came into my mind was, if we could eat those new animals.
But i think the Bible is clear on that:


Leviticus 11:9-12 These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat. And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you: They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination. Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.

Deuteronomy 14:9-10 These ye shall eat of all that are in the waters: all that have fins and scales shall ye eat: whatsoever hath not fins and scales ye may not eat; it is unclean unto you.


So we should not eat them, but maybe those animals are an interessting thing for my Kids to play with!

[__MK__]

Re: SHOUT GLORY! - GOD MOCKS SCIENCE BY CREATING NEW LIFE FORM.

How is a group of scientists succeeding in an experiment to show that there can be arsenic based life forms be god mocking them?

[Lost Sheep McUinnean]

Re: SHOUT GLORY! - GOD MOCKS SCIENCE BY CREATING NEW LIFE FORM.

How is a group of scientists succeeding in an experiment to show that there can be arsenic based life forms be god mocking them?

Sorry. Your syntax is difficult to decipher there. There are either too many words or too few or they're misplaced. Try and rephrase it perhaps.



YIC, McUinnean of that Ilk.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: SHOUT GLORY! - GOD MOCKS SCIENCE BY CREATING NEW LIFE FORM.

Sorry. Your syntax is difficult to decipher there. There are either too many words or too few or they're misplaced. Try and rephrase it perhaps.



YIC, McUinnean of that Ilk.

..or thei're the wrong words.

Here's a couple of suggestions:

QUOTE:
How is a group of scientists succeeding in an experiment to show that there can be arsenic based life forms be god mocking them?

POSSIBLE MEANING:
How of a scientific succeeding in basing life forms to God be mocking is arsenic experiment?

______________

QUOTE:
How is a group of scientists succeeding in an experiment to show that there can be arsenic based life forms be god mocking them?

POSSIBLE MEANING:
Succeeding an arsenic there scientists is how experiment a show group of in to that can be based life mocking forms be God them?

______________

QUOTE:
How is a group of scientists succeeding in an experiment to show that there can be arsenic based life forms be god mocking them?

POSSIBLE MEANING:
How when an arsenic there mocking scientists is an experiment shows base inorganic life is really out there?

quod erat demonstrandum

[Lost Sheep McUinnean]

Re: SHOUT GLORY! - GOD MOCKS SCIENCE BY CREATING NEW LIFE FORM.

..or thei're the wrong words.

Here's a couple of suggestions:

QUOTE:
How is a group of scientists succeeding in an experiment to show that there can be arsenic based life forms be god mocking them?

POSSIBLE MEANING:
How of a scientific succeeding in basing life forms to God be mocking is arsenic experiment?

______________

QUOTE:
How is a group of scientists succeeding in an experiment to show that there can be arsenic based life forms be god mocking them?

POSSIBLE MEANING:
Succeeding an arsenic there scientists is how experiment a show group of in to that can be based life mocking forms be God them?

______________

QUOTE:
How is a group of scientists succeeding in an experiment to show that there can be arsenic based life forms be god mocking them?

POSSIBLE MEANING:
How when an arsenic there mocking scientists is an experiment shows base inorganic life is really out there?

quod erat demonstrandum

Thank you sister. That was.....uhm....helpful.
Better than the original question, but at least I now have more coherent options to mull over.

[BaronOB]

Re: SHOUT GLORY! - GOD MOCKS SCIENCE BY CREATING NEW LIFE FORM.

So-called "evolution" can explain nothing, it is one of the biggest lies in the mankind history.

[cazoofool]

Re: SHOUT GLORY! - GOD MOCKS SCIENCE BY CREATING NEW LIFE FORM.

Hrm, odd I found MK very easy to understand:

"So, this group of scientists find arsenic based life, how is that God mocking these scientists?"

And I still don't believe this to be "God's" work, there are an un-conceivable amount of unfound animals that are discovered every year, many of the places of earth are extremely hard to search for life, such as in the extreme depths of the ocean. Just because we haven't found these creatures before doesn't mean they simply "poofed" into existence.

[Sheldon the Swede]

Re: SHOUT GLORY! - GOD MOCKS SCIENCE BY CREATING NEW LIFE FORM.

The special thing about that new organism is that it has arsenic molecules (not rat poison) was present in his structure instead of nitrogen, what we thought to be the main 'ingredient' for life. It opens new ways to our understanding of life, not a mocking proof of God.

It only shows that an organism can create itself (by special circumstances) in conditions different that we thought was impossible.

Now we know that it is possible that life can exist on places in the univers where there is no nitrogen but arsenic (not rat poison, total different molecule)

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: SHOUT GLORY! - GOD MOCKS SCIENCE BY CREATING NEW LIFE FORM.

The special thing about that new organism is that it has arsenic molecules (not rat poison) was present in his structure instead of nitrogen, what we thought to be the main 'ingredient' for life. It opens new ways to our understanding of life, not a mocking proof of God.

It only shows that an organism can create itself (by special circumstances) in conditions different that we thought was impossible.

Now we know that it is possible that life can exist on places in the univers where there is no nitrogen but arsenic (not rat poison, total different molecule)

Where does it say any of this in the Holy Bible?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: SHOUT GLORY! - GOD MOCKS SCIENCE BY CREATING NEW LIFE FORM.

The special thing about that new organism is that it has arsenic molecules (not rat poison) was present in his structure instead of nitrogen, what we thought to be the main 'ingredient' for life. It opens new ways to our understanding of life, not a mocking proof of God.

It only shows that an organism can create itself (by special circumstances) in conditions different that we thought was impossible.

Now we know that it is possible that life can exist on places in the univers where there is no nitrogen but arsenic (not rat poison, total different molecule)

If by "nitrogen" you mean "phosphorous"; and

If by "new organism" you mean "previously undiscovered variant of existing well-known and extensive class of bacteria"; and

If by "create itself" you mean "is able to use arsenic in the place of phosphorous when in a solution absent phosphorous, but immediately returns to normal use of phosphorous when in a solution with adequate phosphorous"; then

you'd pretty much be right.


I think you just lack reading comprehension skills, and have no clue whatsoever what you are prattling on about.

[Sheldon the Swede]

Re: SHOUT GLORY! - GOD MOCKS SCIENCE BY CREATING NEW LIFE FORM.

I admit that was a little mistake of mine to mention nitrogen instead of phosphorous, but my point stays the same.

By the way, I used 'new organism' and other easy terms so that everybody understands my point and the scientific discovery of this "undiscovered variant of existing well-known and extensive class of bacteria".

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: SHOUT GLORY! - GOD MOCKS SCIENCE BY CREATING NEW LIFE FORM.

originally posted by Sheldon

The special thing about that new organism is that it has arsenic molecules (not rat poison) was present in his its structure instead of nitrogen, what which we thought to be the main 'ingredient' for life. It opens new ways to our understanding of life, not a mocking proof of God.

It only shows that an organism can create itself (by special circumstances) in conditions different that than we thought was were impossible.

Now we know that it is possible that life can exist on places in the universe where there is no nitrogen but arsenic (not rat poison, totally different molecule)

Quite a few errors here - for future projects I would use different source material.

1. arsenic molecules — Arsenic is an element. In the recently created bacterium arsenic ATOMS are incorpotated into a complex MOLECULE instead of another* atom.

2. not rat poison — Arsenic is widely used† in rodenticides.

*3. instead of nitrogen — The arsenic atoms replace PHOSPHORUS. reference here

4. main 'ingredient' for life — The main ingredient for life remains CARBON. reference here

5. It opens new ways to our understanding of life, not a mocking proof of God. — A better sentence would be: "It opens new ways to our understanding of life, which God created."

6. shows that an organism can create itself — You have not supported this assertion in any way. reference here
prefer: It only shows that an organism can create itself (by special circumstances) in conditions we thought impossible.
[even though it can't Genesis 1:1]

7. Now we know that it is possible that life can exist on places in the univers where there is no nitrogen — No we don't.

†8. not rat poison — Here are some rat poisons you might be interested in:

elemental arsenic

arsenic oxides

arsenic trioxide

arsenic pentoxide

arsenic hexoxide

arsenic acid

arsenious acid

arsonic acid

white arsenic

9. different molecule — Arsenic atoms are combined with other atoms into various molecules some of which are used as rodenticides. Other combinations have been used by God to create living organisms such as those discovered recently in California. Arsenic replaces phosphorus in the latter application. There is some similarity between the chemistry of arsenic and that of phosphorus.
reference here presented in an entertaining format

Since you are quoting "science" at us, I have used the "scientists'" own material in the above. It is subject to confirmation by our Creation Scientists, but in the meantime shows internal inconsistencies from the perspective of your own assertions.

But you are using "facts" as you see them, I suppose.

E - -

[Sheldon the Swede]

Re: SHOUT GLORY! - GOD MOCKS SCIENCE BY CREATING NEW LIFE FORM.

I agree with some points, others totally not,

Arsenic on itself is an atom, but not in de DNA structure, thats why I said 'molecule', it forms then a base that is important to the existence of the organism.

Carbon is the most frequent element in a organism, it is even important important as hydrogen or phosphorous, you always need other elements than carbon to have life.

I'm also not saying that there is not arsenic in rat poison, someone post before that the bacteria has rat poison in it's system while the element arsenic is in his system, not litteraly rat poison.

And this discovery doesn't imply any mocking proof of God, only that organisms can live in places where there is not phosphorous, like on certain places on Earth or Space.

The criteria for existence of living cells or other, was the basic elements that a organism needs, now we know that a bacteria can live without the need of phosphorous, what changes the criteria.