[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

Replase the word "day" in the bible by "fase"
And then you will see that the Darwin theory and the bible are the same

Firstly, the Bible is written in straightforward language. If I can just go through the Bible, replacing words I don't like with words I do like, then I can make the Bible say whatever I want it to say.

The Bible isn't a riddle or a mystery to be solved. It is God's Word to man. What use is would it be if we had to guess as to what it means?

Secondly, even if you replace "day" with "phase", the Bible and Darwin still say different things. The order of creation doesn't match the order that evolution says things appear. The Bible tells us that were created before the sun. Plants need sunlight to live. They can go for a day without sunlight, but they can't live for millions of years without it.

The Bible also tells us that plants were created before insects. Flowering plants need insects to pollinate and reproduce. Again, if we are talking actual days, and not millions of years, then this is not a problem. However, it's a huge problem for Darwinism.

There are many more examples like this.

Thirdly, the Biblical creation story doesn't make any sense when you replace "day" with "phase".

Gen 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

If the light is day, and the darkness is night, then do evening and morning make up a 24 hour-long day, or a multi-million year "phase"?

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Ayeola]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

Firstly, the Bible is written in straightforward language. If I can just go through the Bible, replacing words I don't like with words I do like, then I can make the Bible say whatever I want it to say.

The Bible isn't a riddle or a mystery to be solved. It is God's Word to man. What use is would it be if we had to guess as to what it means?

Secondly, even if you replace "day" with "phase", the Bible and Darwin still say different things. The order of creation doesn't match the order that evolution says things appear. The Bible tells us that were created before the sun. Plants need sunlight to live. They can go for a day without sunlight, but they can't live for millions of years without it.

The Bible also tells us that plants were created before insects. Flowering plants need insects to pollinate and reproduce. Again, if we are talking actual days, and not millions of years, then this is not a problem. However, it's a huge problem for Darwinism.

There are many more examples like this.

Thirdly, the Biblical creation story doesn't make any sense when you replace "day" with "phase".

Gen 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Fase one: the creation of the sun

If the light is day, and the darkness is night, then do evening and morning make up a 24 hour-long day, or a multi-million year "phase"?

Pastor Billy-Reuben

And we don't believe God wrote the bible in ordinarie human language (we believe thinking that is not relegious and against god because than you think that you are as smort as God is, and no-one is)
So what you do is wrong in my religion.
Same with beating your wifes: why think god was so stupid to create poeple that needed to be corrected. Don't you think he is smart enough to create people the way they should be?
You doubt God :s

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

And we don't believe God wrote the bible in ordinarie human language (we believe thinking that is not relegious and against god because than you think that you are as smort as God is, and no-one is)
So what you do is wrong in my religion.
Same with beating your wifes: why think god was so stupid to create poeple that needed to be corrected. Don't you think he is smart enough to create people the way they should be?
You doubt God :s

No, we feel that God deliberately created people who need to be punished as part of His ineffable plan friend. You can have no good with out evil so therefor God created people to be damned so there maybe good people to be saved.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

And we don't believe God wrote the bible in ordinarie human language (we believe thinking that is not relegious and against god because than you think that you are as smort as God is, and no-one is)
So what you do is wrong in my religion.

So trusting God's Word to be honest and true is wrong in your religion. That's interesting.

You don't believe that God is capable of leaving His Word to us in a way that is easily understood. You believe that God left His Word to us in a language that no one can understand.

And yet you believe that WE are the ones who "doubt God".

Same with beating your wifes: why think god was so stupid to create poeple that needed to be corrected. Don't you think he is smart enough to create people the way they should be?

Then why does God TELL us to beat people, and that people need correction?

Prov 23:13 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.
Prov 23:14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.

Now, I'm waiting for you to tell me that I should replace the word "rod" with "wet noodle".

Face it, Ayeola. You don't believe the Bible. You just believe whatever you want to believe, and dismiss everything in the Bible that doesn't fit.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Ayeola]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

we believe god wouldn't put himselve that low.
when you speak to a baby that isn't able to use words, do you stop using words?
no you don't.
God uses a language that only the spartest under the humans can and will understand.

And the tingy about the rock... i believe you that it is in je king James bible you have, and i understand that you follow it than.But I took my bible ald looked for it, and it isn't there in those words. my bible sais that you schould correct and trie to bring him on the right path

[Ahimaaz Smith]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

And the tingy about the rock... i believe you that it is in je king James bible you have, and i understand that you follow it than.But I took my bible ald looked for it, and it isn't there in those words. my bible sais that you schould correct and trie to bring him on the right path

What exactly does your Bible say in Leviticus 20:13?

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

we believe god wouldn't put himselve that low.
when you speak to a baby that isn't able to use words, do you stop using words?
no you don't.
God uses a language that only the spartest under the humans can and will understand.

And the tingy about the rock... i believe you that it is in je king James bible you have, and i understand that you follow it than.But I took my bible ald looked for it, and it isn't there in those words. my bible sais that you schould correct and trie to bring him on the right path

From Het Boek

13Aarzel niet een jongen te straffen; van een pak slaag gaat hij echt niet dood.

Do not refrain from punishing a boy; a good thrashing will not kill him.

14Door hem af en toe te straffen kunt u hem voor de ondergang behoeden.

By beating him occasionally, you can prevent him from going astray.

And this is what is wrong with not using King James Version 1611 – so much is lost in translation by foreigners whose languages are simply short of words.

No wonder you have ended up as a sinner, you have no real Bible to read!

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

But I took my bible ald looked for it, and it isn't there in those words. my bible sais that you schould correct and trie to bring him on the right path

Oh, so the people who wrote your Bible already did the word-replacing for you.

Here is the original Hebrew (over on the right).

Proverbs 23:13-14

אַל־תִּמְנַע מִנַּעַר מוּסָר כִּֽי־תַכֶּנּוּ בַשֵּׁבֶט לֹא יָמֽוּת׃
אַתָּה בַּשֵּׁבֶט תַּכֶּנּוּ וְנַפְשֹׁו מִשְּׁאֹול תַּצִּֽיל׃

In our alphabet,
Mana muwcar na`ar nakah shebet muwth
Nakah shebet natsal nephesh sh'owl

Or literally,
Do not withhold discipline from a child. When you strike him with a rod, he will not die.
Strike him with a rod, and deliver his soul from Hell.

What "Bible" did you say you were reading from, again?

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Ayeola]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

willibrordusbijbel: gereformeerde versie

[Ayeola]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

What exactly does your Bible say in Leviticus 20:13?

to kill homosexuals

Wie met een man het bed deelt als met een vrouw, begaat een gruweldaad. Beiden moeten ter dood gebracht worden en hebben hun dood aan zichzelf te wijten.

Or:

If you share a bed with a man the same way you do it with a woman, it is a sin. You schould both be killed and it will be your own fault.

the strange thing is, i took a catholic bible and there they say "if a man" in mine they say "if you".
So, I should become a lesbian :s

Maybe my bible isn't very clear about things

[Wide-Open]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

Maybe my bible isn't very clear about things

Yes it is, even in that ghastly Flemish language.

I'll do it in yours.

Dood aan de jeanetten!

I bet you didn't even know your (false) Bible said so. Am I right?

Do you agree that homers should be killed? Or do you see your Bible as "een vodje papier"?

[Ayeola]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

in bible study I learned that in the bible there were parts against gay people, but my teachter explained to me: when the bible whas writen, people believed that the male sperm was limited. So one day you would have an orgasme, but there wouldn't be any sperm any more.
So gay people were just spilling their sperm

But now we know that that isn't true.Sperm isn't limited. our body makes it over and over again.

Plus: relations where there to have children. Not because you love someone, just to have children.

Now it is different. people have relationships because they love eachotherand there are a lot of people who don't want to have kids.

We don't believe in the bible as "the word from all times". We do believe it's old and need to be updated.

[eliot mayfield]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

Have you been drinking alcohol?

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

in bible study I learned that in the bible there were parts against gay people, but my teachter explained to me: when the bible whas writen, people believed that the male sperm was limited. So one day you would have an orgasme, but there wouldn't be any sperm any more.

How would that affect homers? Was your teacher Hans Christian Anderson?

So gay people were just spilling their sperm

That is true but it is WHERE they spill their sperm that is the abomination!

But now we know that that isn't true. Sperm isn't limited. our body makes it over and over again.

Having limitless sperm does not excuse homers, who are still an abomination!

Plus: relations where there to have children. Not because you love someone, just to have children.

It is just to have children – who told you differently??

Now it is different. people have relationships because they love each other and there are a lot of people who don't want to have kids.

then they are disobeying The Lord! Ge:1:28: And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. 28God zegende hen en zei: "Vermenigvuldig je, bevolk de aarde en onderwerp haar. Heers over de vissen, de vogels en alle andere dieren.(Did you see how the Dutch bible is the short version for people who are foreign?)

We don't believe in the bible as "the word from all times". We do believe it's old and need to be updated.

Who is “we”? Whoever you are you are all Damned. When the earth began 6000 years ago, 2+2=4, today 2+2=4, God’s Word is the same.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Flat Earth? Hell Yes!

We don't believe in the bible as "the word from all times". We do believe it's old and need to be updated.

You and your hellbound friends may believe anything you like, of course. There are heathens all over the world who live in their own, self centered make believe world. Did you know that the Japs insist that green is blue? Did you know that Scientologists believe that human beings are nothing more than meat puppets controlled by space aliens?

Sure, go ahead and believe that God's Holy Word is imperfect and outdated. Ignore the fact that your belief cannot be substantiated outside of your own childish imagination. Go ahead and ignore what God says in His Revealed Word.

THIS is what that crazy belief will get you.