[didiboi]

Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

Even our resident atheist nitwit is putting you in your place.

You really made an ass out of yourself.

how have i made an ass of myself? at no point have i said anything that is not scientific or logical. i believe in observing the environment and using logic to explain stuff, not just an interpretation of a book, re-written and translated so many times the original meaning has probably been lost.

[Gwynipig]

Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

Right then, I'm not going to talk about the water cycle, as it's a proven fact in science that it is one of the most renewable things on this planet, you must be rather simple to see that.

What I am going to talk about is Evil.
As Christians, there are some things you have to agree on.
God made angels without free will.
Satan is a fallen angel, and the cause of all evil.

What I mean to say is this, if God is real, then he created the angels without free will. This then means that he had created Lucifer/Satan/The Devil, without free will, as the above mentioned Evil Spirit was a fallen angel. Satan, in the disguise of a snake, convinced Eve into eating the apple from the forbidden tree, thus damning the human race.
In essence, due to God there is evil, pain and suffering. As he created an angel, that, without a choice, had to become Evil, rebel against God, and become Satan.

Yours Sincerely
Gwynipig


[[Using Logic to destroy the images of God being a) Kind and b) Real for years]]

[Bob4God]

Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

In all of this it says nothing of God creating people for us to hate. It says He created evil, and man, but not that he created evil man.

So when GOD creates evil people, and then says He hates all workers of iniquity, does that mean GOD doesn't create people to hate and damn?

The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil. - Proverbs 16:4

Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? - Romans 9:21

I have hated them that regard lying vanities: but I trust in the LORD. - Psalm 31:6

All of man is good, and you have twisted these quotes from God's book to mean that we should hate others, instead of showing compassion, love, and kindness, and reflecting God's word in that way.

Wrong again.

All of men is not good:

But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. - Isaiah 64:6

The core message of the Bible is that humans are fundamentally flawed; broken vessels that need mending by the Master Potter.

For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; - Romans 3:23

If all of man is good, why is there a Hell?

If all of man is good, why did GOD send the Great Flood to wipe them out?

Sodom and Gomorrah?

The Firstborn Sons of Egypt who were slaughtered by GOD?

All of man is not good.

[Jedediah]

Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

Right then, I'm not going to talk about the water cycle, as it's a proven fact in science that it is one of the most renewable things on this planet, you must be rather simple to see that.

What I am going to talk about is Evil.
As Christians, there are some things you have to agree on.
God made angels without free will.
Satan is a fallen angel, and the cause of all evil.

What I mean to say is this, if God is real, then he created the angels without free will. This then means that he had created Lucifer/Satan/The Devil, without free will, as the above mentioned Evil Spirit was a fallen angel. Satan, in the disguise of a snake, convinced Eve into eating the apple from the forbidden tree, thus damning the human race.
In essence, due to God there is evil, pain and suffering. As he created an angel, that, without a choice, had to become Evil, rebel against God, and become Satan.

Yours Sincerely
Gwynipig


[[Using Logic to destroy the images of God being a) Kind and b) Real for years]]

You seem very pleased with yourself. If you had ever bothered to read the Holy Bible (KJV 1611), you would know that it is no secret that God is behind all evil.

Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Amos 3:6
Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?

The simple fact of the matter is that it is all a part of His Plan. And who are we to question that? When we don't understand His Ways, we may yet rejoice in His Promises. How would God know that His Elect truly keep the faith, if not to test them?

Further, you seem to think that people have free will but angels do not. Everything that happens does so because that's what God intended. The entire notion of "free will" is an un-Biblical myth.

John 15:16
Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

Romans 9:15-16
For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

Ephesians 1:11
In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:

[Gwynipig]

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The simple fact of the matter is that it is all a part of His Plan. And who are we to question that? When we don't understand His Ways, we may yet rejoice in His Promises. How would God know that His Elect truly keep the faith, if not to test them?:[/COLOR]

How can you have faith in something that is, as stated, evil. God is meant to be caring, and forgiving, yet he is, by any written passage, the biggest evil of all.

All natural disasters, acts of God. All murders and rapes, part of Gods plan.

At no point is Lucifer blamed. Maybe Satan did win the war in heaven. the biggest evil? Make people think you're god.

There have not been wars in Lucifers names. Haven't been natural disasters caused by Lucifer. Have you ever stopped to think that Lucifer is actually God, trapped by Satan. I mean, this would give a reason as to why God is such an evil bellend, where as Satan on the other hand, has done nothing wrong since Eve.

[didiboi]

Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

You seem very pleased with yourself. If you had ever bothered to read the Holy Bible (KJV 1611), you would know that it is no secret that God is behind all evil.

so your saying, you worship someone/ thing that over thousands of years has murdered millions of humans/ animals. and you are still ok with the concept of dictatorship, genocide and slavery?

[FaithInMySoul]

Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

You seem very pleased with yourself. If you had ever bothered to read the Holy Bible (KJV 1611), you would know that it is no secret that God is behind all evil.

so your saying, you worship someone/ thing that over thousands of years has murdered millions of humans/ animals. and you are still ok with the concept of dictatorship, genocide and slavery?

God has given us all free will and whether that leads to genocide, slavery etc. doesn't matter. In the end it is all God's plan and the Bible says so.

[Gwynipig]

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God has given us all free will and whether that leads to genocide, slavery etc. doesn't matter. In the end it is all God's plan and the Bible says so.

So, in backing up Jed, you're actually dissagreeing with him. As Jed has stated that men do not have free will. Ah well, good to see that God sanctifys genocide, wars in his name, and slavery...

[FaithInMySoul]

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So, in backing up Jed, you're actually dissagreeing with him. As Jed has stated that men do not have free will. Ah well, good to see that God sanctifys genocide, wars in his name, and slavery...

I am glad you finally see the light

god bless

[Jedediah]

Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

I'll just ignore your confusing Paradise Lost for the Holy Bible for now...

If you want to burn in hell for all eternity, that's your business. I, however, have been preordained to Salvation(tm) from the time before I was a gleam in my parents' eyes. So even if I wanted to reject Jesus' Plan for Salvation, I would be entirely unable to do so, as one of Jesus' Elect.

Romans 9:11
(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth; )

II Timothy 1:9
Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

When I accepted Jesus into my heart at 2:34 PM on October 16, 1998, I was rendered perfect and am now entirely unable to sin (I John 3:6-9, Philippians 2:13). I can't imagine why I would choose to leave my anointed place at Jesus' bosom for all eternity. Do you think I would want to join you and the rest of the God-mockers as you wail and gnash your teeth, suffering unquenchable thirst for all eternity?

When you die, a demon will approach you. He will laugh at you for being so foolish in the life God gave to you as to be led astray by false deceivers and their false doctrines. He will grab you by the ankle, spin you around, and hurtle you into a black abyss.

You will fall for what seems like days. Then you will feel it getting hotter, and you will see a small read dot off in the distance. As you fall closer to the red dot, your skin will blister from the heat, and the dot will grow larger. As you get closer and closer, you will see horned beasts flying above what appear to be the shapes of men and women thrashing around in a pool of lava. These are the souls of the damned, and you are on your way to joining them.

Revelation 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Your skin will burn off. You will writhe in agony and gnash your teeth so hard they shatter. Oh, how you will scream and scream and scream! But no one is here to help you. You have already rejected Jesus, and now it is too late. The flying demons will swoop down upon you, lift you out of the molten lava, and tear you to shreds. This is their way of welcoming you to hell. You will instantly regenerate, only to suffer these and other, indescribable torments for eternity.

Isaiah 66:24
And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

But there is Good News! You still have a chance to avoid this fate if you repent of your wickedness, ask Jesus into your heart, be washed in His Blood, and live by every word contained in the Bible (KJV 1611). We love you as only a True Christian™ could, and we want you to join us in Heaven. Won't you please reconsider the path you are on and walk in the ways of True Christianity™?

[Redeemed Papist]

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so your saying, you worship someone/ thing that over thousands of years has murdered millions of humans/ animals. and you are still ok with the concept of dictatorship, genocide and slavery?

What of it?

[didiboi]

Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

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God has given us all free will and whether that leads to genocide, slavery etc. doesn't matter. In the end it is all God's plan and the Bible says so.

so if i went on a murderous rampage with no motive, that would be part of gods plan? also that should mean the judicial system is completely pointless as its "not their fault" in essence hitler was a nice chap

[FaithInMySoul]

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so if i went on a murderous rampage with no motive, that would be part of gods plan? also that should mean the judicial system is completely pointless as its "not their fault" in essence hitler was a nice chap

Yes, if you were to go on a murderous rampage, whoever who would have been murdered deserved to be as it is all apart of God's plan. Do you not understand? If they are murdered by you, they must have sinned as there is no other reason for them to be killed.

Hitler killed the jews for sinning, these same jews drank Christs blood and tortured him so by the mass genocide God is simply showing his vengeance as they all had to die for Christ for they have sinned.

god bless

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with science

Hitler? A nice chap? Hardly: he was a papist.



Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth
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[ukagnostic]

Re: Homeschool Science Lessons: Proving atheists wrong with scien

Hi! I'm guessing you're a retard of some sort.

2 liters is roughly half a gallon of water. If you don't get at least that much each day (as liquid and/or in food), you die of dehydration.

Do have a bit of thought - there are millions and millions of people who do die in the world because of dehydration or other water related illness every single day unfortunately.

Listening to the way you mock atheists is quite appalling. Do have a bit of respect for your fellow human race and get your facts right before you start making silly, and quite offensive comments like this please. It is a shame to see Christians reacting in this way. Peace and love and loving thy neighbour and all ey...