[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: BRAILLE – THE DEVIL’S SECRET LANGUAGE !!!

For one thing, I'm a woman not a man.

That accounts for a lot. Does your husband know you are posting here? If you have any questions about God, you should refer to him first.

For another, what type of Christians are you if you believe God places conditions on who he loves and who he doesn't?

We do not impose any restriction on God, that would be blasphemous! Here is a short list of some of the people God hates:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

Those are the most counter-Christian attitudes I've ever heard in my life.

That is because you know nothing –absolutely nothing – about Christianity.

You all are thoroughly disgusting.

Gal. 4:16: Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

P.S. I'm not a cripple. I can walk just fine.

Well how has God cursed you then?

[Brother Temperance]

Re: BRAILLE – THE DEVIL’S SECRET LANGUAGE !!!

Well how has God cursed you then?

She claims that God has given her spastic eyes so she gets a tiny Jap robot to read the forums to her. Frankly, I find this implausible, and think it's more likely that she can see perfectly well, and is just possessed by a demon that makes her pretend to be blind. The unsaved are a strange lot, that's for sure.

[Simon1992]

my comments

I think it's about time some propper logic was brought in here.
I have been blind since the day of my birth. I started learning how to read and write in braille when I was five years old. Braille is nothing more than a tactile equivalent to print, and each dot patern corresponds to a symbol in print. If any one of you ever bothered to take a bit of time out of your day and read a single article on braile, you would know this.
Oh, and just for your information, I read braille with my right hand, not my left.
Also, 66+6 is not 666, it's 72. I think someone needs to take their first grade math class again.

Let's see, I'm sure there was something else....oh yes, screen readers. A screen reader is simply a computer program that runs on my system, and reads the information on my screen (including smilies). I can't determine the exact details of images posted up here, but thankfully, the smilies are all labeled so I can read them.
Oh, and one other thing. Someone posted a message suggesting that blind people were all faking their blindness and using their canes to communicate in morse code.

Firstly, I don't even *know* morse code. Secondly, I don't tap my cane, I actually sweep it in front of me from left to right, and if you ever closely examined a blind person tapping their cane, you would notice that it was in a regular patern (left, right, left, right). This patern helps a blind person see what is in front of them, since their cane will hit it hopefully before they do. Again, something anyone who had researched this even slightly would know. And thirdly, if a doctor diagnoses someone with an eye condition and determines that they are blind, does that still mean they are faking their blindness? Because in 99% of cases, that is what happens. Or are you going to say that the doctors are possessed by demons, just like all the blind people.
You know what? I think you're all a bunch of idiots who are trying to scare similar idiots. I think that you need to learn to accept people who aren't *exactly* like you, and you need to do five minutes of research before you start making idiots of yourselves on public forums. This is simple logic.
Oh, and a piece of braille paper can be made to say anything, if you braille the dots properly and connect them. Think about it...give it that entire .1% brain power you have left. Braille dots can be arranged any way you want. You could make it say anything from "Burn in hell" to "I like chocolate ice cream", and all you'd need to do is connect the dots. Do I need to start brailling things out and attach images?
By the way, before you can find something wrong with this, I'm perfectly happy being blind. If someone came up to me and offered me my sight back, I would refuse, always with the knowledge in mind that although I may not be the most inteligent person in the world, there are people who are far beyond idiotic. And quite a number of them frequent this forum.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: my comments

[...]
By the way, before you can find something wrong with this, I'm perfectly happy being blind. If someone came up to me and offered me my sight back, I would refuse, [...]

Jesus made the blind see - so, you would refuse Jesus' gift?

We get Homosexuals here too - they always seem to cling on to their gay lifestyle and are difficult to convert to being normal. What is it with you people?

You are not a Christian are you? I think you are a horrible atheist.

[Simon1992]

Oh, and one other thing.

I'm not the only one reading this. I've now put this link up on my facebook, which has over 100 blind people reading this, including my girlfriend and many close friends of mine. If you like, I can get them all out here, and I could even spread this link all over the internet. Just watch me. I don't think any of them would be too happy to see this. Not to mention all the sighted people who know, or even know of, other blind people.

I did want to thank you though, for making me feel much better about myself. I've never thought much of my own intelligence, but reading this really boosts my self esteem.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Oh, and one other thing.

I cannot see that you need any self-esteem - as a woman, that should come through, and only through your father or husband.

1st Corinthians 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
1st Corinthians 14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

1st Timothy 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

[No Quarter]

Re: BRAILLE – THE DEVIL’S SECRET LANGUAGE !!!

Are you claiming that all smart people are mutes? Are you some kind of a cripple supremacist or something? Jesus has already broken your eyes, I'd stop needlessly provoking Him if I were you.

So Jesus teaches loving and caring.

But he makes people go blind?
How does that work?

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: my comments

I have been blind since the day of my birth....

Oh, and a piece of braille paper can be made to say anything, if you braille the dots properly and connect them. Think about it...give it that entire .1% brain power you have left. Braille dots can be arranged any way you want. You could make it say anything from "Burn in hell" to "I like chocolate ice cream", and all you'd need to do is connect the dots. Do I need to start brailling things out and attach images?

You are lying about your blindness! You can see just as well as us. If you were blind you woul have no concept of "connecting the dots" to spell out words. Furthermore, even if you had a screen reader, they cannot read attachments, let alone abstractly-constructed words like on the braille sheet.

You cannot view the attachment yet you admitted you have. You are a liar.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: BRAILLE – THE DEVIL’S SECRET LANGUAGE !!!

So Jesus teaches loving and caring.

But he makes people go blind?
How does that work?

The Lord finds the Blind offensive. He cured a few so as to show His Awesome Power but most remain blind for some sin they committed or a sin their parents or grandparents committed.

Exodus 4:11 And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man's mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?

"The Lord will smite thee with a consumption, and with a fever, and with an inflammation, and with an extreme burning, and with the sword, and with blasting, and with mildew; and they shall pursue thee until thou perish…The Lord will smite thee with the botch of Egypt, and with the hemroids, and with the scab, and with the itch, whereof thou canst not be healed. The Lord shall smite thee with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart” -Deuteronomy 28:15-28

2Sa:5:8: And David said on that day, Whosoever getteth up to the gutter, and smiteth the Jebusites, and the lame and the blind, that are hated of David's soul, he shall be chief and captain. Wherefore they said, The blind and the lame shall not come into the house.

Le:21:16: And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Le:21:17: Speak unto Aaron, saying, Whosoever he be of thy seed in their generations that hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God.
Le:21:18: For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous,
Le:21:19: Or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded,
Le:21:20: Or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken;

[blind ali]

Re: BRAILLE – THE DEVIL’S SECRET LANGUAGE !!!

I was informed of this thread by Simon1992, who put it up on his Facebook. At the time that I saw the first message, I was not quite aware of just how stupid and purely ignorent you zealots are. Now that I have read everything, I truly know. First, let me say that I am blind, and have been since birth. I need not repeat what Simon said. I think his message somed everything up. Rather, I shall add to it. Does not the fact that you delete the accounts of those who disagree with you prove what true cowards you are? Rather than engaging in an intellectual debate, you ban them, proving that you are truly terrified of the truth. And let me add that apparently you know nothing of computer science, for if you did, you would know that it is perfectly possible for screenreaders to read anything on the screen. I can't see the pictures, but they have labels, so I can, in a sense, know what the images are. If you wish, I can put up a download link in which I demonstrate the screenreader I use. But it is most likely that I will be banned before that can happen, because you are so terrified of the truth, which is that blind people are just as good as sighted people. And one more thing. Why would Simon and me and others lie about being blind, especially in an environment where we are mocked and treated like dog droppings?

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: BRAILLE – THE DEVIL’S SECRET LANGUAGE !!!

I was informed of this thread by Simon1992, who put it up on his Facebook. At the time that I saw the first message, I was not quite aware of just how stupid and purely ignorent you zealots are. Now that I have read everything, I truly know. First, let me say that I am blind, and have been since birth. I need not repeat what Simon said. I think his message somed everything up. Rather, I shall add to it. Does not the fact that you delete the accounts of those who disagree with you prove what true cowards you are? Rather than engaging in an intellectual debate, you ban them, proving that you are truly terrified of the truth. And let me add that apparently you know nothing of computer science, for if you did, you would know that it is perfectly possible for screenreaders to read anything on the screen. I can't see the pictures, but they have labels, so I can, in a sense, know what the images are. If you wish, I can put up a download link in which I demonstrate the screenreader I use. But it is most likely that I will be banned before that can happen, because you are so terrified of the truth, which is that blind people are just as good as sighted people. And one more thing. Why would Simon and me and others lie about being blind, especially in an environment where we are mocked and treated like dog droppings?

I am honestly confused how a blind person can be reading this forum.

[blind ali]

Re: BRAILLE – THE DEVIL’S SECRET LANGUAGE !!!

Hi. Since you don't appear to be showing any hatred twards the blind comunity, I will have no problem explaining this to you in a calm and friendly manner. I am just fare like that. Anyway, the blind use a program, called a screenreader, which, when installed on any computer, will read the text using synthesized speech. Sometimes, blind people get braille displays which will connect to the computer, so that they may read what is on the screen with braille. It is just a matter of preference. I prefer to use the speech. If you have a windows machine, press windows+u, and you will get an example of a screenreader. Granted, this reader is pretty bad, and it has a horid voice, but it is one that is installed on every windows machine. If windows+u does not work, try going to the run dialogue in the start menu and type Narrator. Other web sites for screenreaders include www.freedomscientific.com, www.nvda-project.org, I think, www.screenreader.net, www.yourdolphin.com. I can't garentee that all of those sites will work as I do not remember if they are .com, .org, or .net. But I am sure of the freedom scientific one as I have visited it many times. Hope that helped.

[Simon1992]

Re: my comments

You are lying about your blindness! You can see just as well as us. If you were blind you woul have no concept of "connecting the dots to spell out words..."

Actually, I do have a concept of connecting the dots. Believe it or not, I can visualize something like this quite easily just by imagining braille dots on a page connected by a line. I may not read print, but I have at least some idea of the shape of print letters. And, why would I lie about being blind anyway. Seems like a really stupid thing to do, honestly.

Furthermore, even if you had a screen reader, they cannot read attachments, let alone abstractly-constructed words like on the braille sheet.

You are right. I hadn't actually been able to see the attachment, but enough people had commented on it for me to get the general idea.

[Simon1992]

Re: BRAILLE – THE DEVIL’S SECRET LANGUAGE !!!

I haven't been banned, so I'll give them that much credit. neither, it seems, has Ali.

If anyone wants me to post an mp3 file of what a screen reader sounds like, I can do so. Just let me know.

[James Hutchins]

Re: BRAILLE – THE DEVIL’S SECRET LANGUAGE !!!

Neither one of you are terrible people, hence you are not banned. Nor do you seem like trolls.