[Elmer G. White]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

Luke 14:26
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

Ok you are really twisting the bible there.

John 16:33 - These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

There you go a bible verse that says to be happy.

Dear sinner,

1. Please tell us your justification for dismissing Luke 14:26 while embracing John 16:33. How can you tell that the second one is reliable and you can disregard the former one?

2. Did you actually read John 16:33? It tells us that our life here on earth will be miserable from the viewpoints of comfort, niceties, everything that is secular. We are going to have tribulation. That is not the "happy life" that would include listening to lower-mediocre harmonically predictable and off-tune sung short-attention-span vocals by people who dye their hair. It includes work and hardship for Christ! The cheer is in expectation! The toil will be rewarded in Heaven!

Matthew 6:20
But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:

3. We should also assess the original ἡ κοινὴ διάλεκτος regarding these verses. Let us look at the Luke verse first!

Τὸ κατὰ Λουκᾶν εὐαγγέλιον 14:26
ει τις ερχεται προς με και ου μισει τον πατερα αυτου και την μητερα και την γυναικα και τα τεκνα και τους αδελφους και τας αδελφας ετι τε και την εαυτου ψυχην ου δυναται ειναι μου μαθητης

First we have ου μισει - (from μισέω - "I hate" as the Greeks give the first person present singular as the basic form of the verb and not the infinitive unlike Godly American) hates not, followed by some direct objects among which is the word ψυχην (accusative sig. fem. of ψυχή). This is quite clear, a direct statement. Please explain whether:

• Jesus is lying deliberately?
• if the Holy Spirit got it wrong and dictated in erroneously to Luke?
• if Luke deliberately lied to us?
• if the copyists lied to us intentionally or non-intentionally?
• or if you have erred and do not really understand the Bible?

Based on Bayesian prior probabilities, we should assume that most unsaved people err and make mistakes, and thus the probability of you failing is higher than that of Jesus failing. Hence, your claim of dismissing Luke 14:26 will need extraordinary evidence to counterbalance the prior probability of Jesus getting it right!

OK, time to look at the next verse:

Τὸ κατὰ Ἰωάννην εὐαγγέλιον 16:33
ταῦτα λελάληκα ὑμῖν ἵνα ἐν ἐμοὶ εἰρήνην ἔχητε. ἐν τῷ κόσμῳ θλῖψιν ἔχετε· ἀλλὰ θαρσεῖτε, ἐγὼ νενίκηκα τὸν κόσμον.

The word to assess here is θλῖψιν (accusative - again a direct object of the feminine singular noun θλῖψις). It translates as persecution, affliction, distress, or tribulation. Distress means discomfort, nasty things falling upon us. Not a nice life with happiness listening to semi-alcoholic, hyped but technically less-than-average tone-smiths going through the circle of fifths in a stereotypical manner.

Conclusions: This shows you that the verses Luke 14:26 and John 16:33 both tell us about the same thing: hardship and suffering on Earth is required if you are to follow Jesus. Distractions into the world of pale complexion and Schwarzkopf overdose can only cause harm.

I'm looking forward to your detailed answer of every single question that we posed you, and it is still a privilege to educate you in the first Basics of Bible Study!


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

You are retarded when it comes to the issue of self harm. Therapy works, and you should not deny someone who needs it. Also when parents beat their children self harm becomes worse.

You should read What the Bible says about psychology, psychiatry, madness, and insanity.

Cutting yourself is not hating God he has nothing to do with it.

But if you're a believer, your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit.

1 Cor 6:19-20
19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

Even if you're not a believer, harming the body is an attack on the image of God (Gen 1:26-27; 9:5-6).

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

Im not saying God cant help cutters

If God can help cutters, why bother with therapy?

[Alan Swallows Waiting for Email Confirmation]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

Therapy works, and you should not deny someone who needs it.

You should try listening to harp music instead of emo. That really helped Saul when he went off the rails.

First Samuel 16:14 But the Spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the Lord troubled him.
First Samuel 16:15 And Saul's servants said unto him, Behold now, an evil spirit from God troubleth thee.
First Samuel 16:16 Let our lord now command thy servants, which are before thee, to seek out a man, who is a cunning player on an harp: and it shall come to pass, when the evil spirit from God is upon thee, that he shall play with his hand, and thou shalt be well.

[WretchedAndDivine]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

Hi, I made an account to respond to this specifically. I have two things I want to say about this post. The first is that using physical punishment is not the right way to discipline your child. My parents are devote Christians and used to spank me when I did something wrong. We found out quickly that it just made me flinch away from them and didn't correct behavior. Instead, use things like extra chores and responsibilities, time away from tech, or not hanging out with friends. I know that worked for me and corrected my bad behavior. Secondly, emo is not a cult or religion. Its a type of fashion, art, and music style. The band in question is not labelled as emo but rather as goth or heavy metal/rock. Andy does not invoke violence on his fans at all. He doesn't drink or smoke and is a very nice person in real life. The pictures you used are not in the correct context. The first is of Andy after he fell off stage and broke his nose. The second is him joking around licking a prop for one of their music videos. No one in that gif as jerking off, one man was uncoiling rope, one was laughing, and the other was going up to itch his face. I would advise you not to manipulate things to your gain, it will cause problems in the future. The band does however use religious and creative imagery in songs and music videos. They have a sense for dramatics, and that's all it is. Just as fiction novels have things like villains, heroes, prophets, and warriors, the band does to. These bands are not meant to hurt others or change their religion. If one fan does harm themselves or change religions, it is simply that fans personal choice. I am a fan of goth/emo bands and I do not cut myself. Your daughter is harming herself either for attention or because she needs an outlet for things she's feeling. As someone who suffers from complex ptsd, depression, and severe anxiety, I understand her struggle. Get her a good therapist, someone to confide in and talk to. Don't get made and hurt her more, it leads a child to hate their parents, to know that hurting themselves means getting hurt by others. I say this with as much respect as possible, you are damaging your child by proving that you are not afraid to harm her. She will be scared of you and she will hate you.

[Basilissa]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

Hi, I made an account to respond to this specifically. I have two things I want to say about this post. The first is that using physical punishment is not the right way to discipline your child.

My dear, feel free to take this complaint to the One Who made the rules:

Proverbs 13:24 - He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.
Proverbs 19:18 - Chasten thy son while there is hope, and let not thy soul spare for his crying.
Proverbs 22:15 - Foolishness [is] bound in the heart of a child; [but] the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.
Proverbs 23:13-14
13 Withhold not correction from the child: for [if] thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.
14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.
Proverbs 29:15 - The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left [to himself] bringeth his mother to shame.
Proverbs 29:17 - Correct thy son, and he shall give thee rest; yea, he shall give delight unto thy soul.

My parents are devote Christians and used to spank me when I did something wrong. We found out quickly that it just made me flinch away from them and didn't correct behavior.

Are you implying that God is wrong?

Secondly, emo is not a cult or religion. Its a type of fashion, art, and music style.

Same thing, it lands you in , so it's just like a false religion.

It is not to late for you, dear. Repent for your sins, read the Bible and obey it. All of it, not just a few pieces that sound nice to you.

[ChristianGirl24/7]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

This band is truly satanic!! My ex friend who was unsaved loved them. She constantly talked about them and worshipped them!! I will share the horrid knowledge I have gathered from her ramblings, if only to let you know if your children are infected by them. The leader goes by many names, Andy Biersack, Andy Black and Andy Sixx (the devil's number). From what I gathered his second in command, Ashley, Purdy is also his lover. Do not let the female name trick you, as Ashley is a male!! That's right, not only are they satanic but they are faggots. Next is Christian Coma also known as CC. That man is undeserving of a good name like Christian, clearly the devil is trying to take over and spoil the name. The next is Jake Pitts, clearly referencing the pits of hell. Lastly Jinxx Ferguson, he doesn't even have a normal name!!!! They also have alias to try and trick us of good faith.The Prophet - This one is Andy's name. Clearly trying to place himself in a rank of power and authority. Almost acting as if he gets vision from Satan.
The Deviant - This one is Ashley's. Clearly motivating Innocents to rebel against Christ.
The Mourner- This one is Jake's. Showing children to mourn and be sad that us of Christ are "close minded" and "brainwashed"
The Mystic- the name given to Jinxx. Apparently, the man is deeply in the occult! From what my friend has said, he even has an Ouija board guitar.
The Destroyer- CC's name. Telling children to destroy the holy Trinity and trying to tear families apart
These evil people and their horrid followers, The Legion Of Black, are parasites to this society.

[tkwhite]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

ChristianGirl24/7,

While I welcome you to our friendly forums, I must strongly advise you that it is customary for all new members to go to the introduction thread and introduce themselves if they haven't already done so. Kindly tell us a bit about yourself there. Where you currently go to Church, When did you get saved, and what your favorite Bible verse is and kindly use the KJV 1611 version of your favorite verse. Any other version is unacceptable.

[IAmTheTrueVillageIdiot]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

Metal, punk, gothic, rock, folk, country, blues etc. in general are occult nazi music (and surprisingly the "Christian" Identity people post such music on their forums, that is because their religion is not based on the Bible, and neither was Hitler's Positive Christianity, since they all are anti-Capitalist and support everything that National SOCIALISTS and Pagans support too). Whoever listens to such music needs to be put to death.It is against True Christians™. But don't mind me, I am the perfect idiot.

[Elijah Mee, PhD]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

Hi, I made an account to respond to this specifically. I have two things I want to say about this post. The first is that using physical punishment is not the right way to discipline your child. My parents are devote Christians and used to spank me when I did something wrong. We found out quickly that it just made me flinch away from them and didn't correct behavior. Instead, use things like extra chores and responsibilities, time away from tech, or not hanging out with friends. I know that worked for me and corrected my bad behavior. Secondly, emo is not a cult or religion. Its a type of fashion, art, and music style. The band in question is not labelled as emo but rather as goth or heavy metal/rock. Andy does not invoke violence on his fans at all. He doesn't drink or smoke and is a very nice person in real life. The pictures you used are not in the correct context. The first is of Andy after he fell off stage and broke his nose. The second is him joking around licking a prop for one of their music videos. No one in that gif as jerking off, one man was uncoiling rope, one was laughing, and the other was going up to itch his face. I would advise you not to manipulate things to your gain, it will cause problems in the future. The band does however use religious and creative imagery in songs and music videos. They have a sense for dramatics, and that's all it is. Just as fiction novels have things like villains, heroes, prophets, and warriors, the band does to. These bands are not meant to hurt others or change their religion. If one fan does harm themselves or change religions, it is simply that fans personal choice. I am a fan of goth/emo bands and I do not cut myself. Your daughter is harming herself either for attention or because she needs an outlet for things she's feeling. As someone who suffers from complex ptsd, depression, and severe anxiety, I understand her struggle. Get her a good therapist, someone to confide in and talk to. Don't get made and hurt her more, it leads a child to hate their parents, to know that hurting themselves means getting hurt by others. I say this with as much respect as possible, you are damaging your child by proving that you are not afraid to harm her. She will be scared of you and she will hate you.

Hi darling,

Please space out your words. If white space is good enough for the Bible, it's certainly good enough for you. Paragraphs make Baby Jesus smile.

Where do emos hang out these days? I should like to study them (to find out if you're right about their inoffensive nature, of course). Is there an emo forum I should be joining to talk about my love of chemical romance and my 42nd consecutive black dye job?

Bless you.

[Elijah Mee, PhD]

Re: Black Veil Brides: High Priests Of EMO Religion Now With Army To Kill All Christians

Metal, punk, gothic, rock, folk, country, blues etc. in general are occult nazi music (and surprisingly the "Christian" Identity people post such music on their forums, that is because their religion is not based on the Bible, and neither was Hitler's Positive Christianity, since they all are anti-Capitalist and support everything that National SOCIALISTS and Pagans support too). Whoever listens to such music needs to be put to death.It is against True Christians™. But don't mind me, I am the perfect idiot.

Honesty, being one of the Commandments, is important to God. There may still be some hope for you, if one ignores everything else you say.