[Des]

Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

A Jew is any person whose mother was a Jew.
Mary was Jewish.
You may have grounds to say he was not a practising Jew, but he was still a Jew, sort of like Woody Alan or Ayn Rand.

So you're saying that if a couple decide to offend God by converting to Judaism, their children will magically develop filthy Jew blood just because the mother is a practicing Jew. What are you, some kind of sick racist?

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

Prove god exists. No, I am not 12.

The evidence is in the Bible. Would it be too much to ask for you to read it before mocking our most cherished beliefs?

What if I started criticising Choujin Densetsu Urotsukidouji? How would you like that?

Prove you are not some know nothing punk kid.

YIC

[jordannewton]

Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

They are not proofs in any objective sense. Are you twelve?

YIC

Prove god exists. No, I am not 12.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

The worst false religion....

How about all religion as none of it exists.

It is easy to prove to yourself that God is imaginary. The evidence is all around you. Here are 50 simple proofs:


Try praying
Statistically analyze prayer
Look at all historical gods
Think about science
Read the Bible
Ponder God's plan
Understand religious delusion
Think about Near Death Experiences
Understand ambiguity
Watch the offering plate
Notice that there is no scientific evidence
See the magic
Take a look at slavery
Examine Jesus' miracles
Examine Jesus' resurrection
Contemplate the contradictions
Think about Leprechauns
Imagine heaven
Notice that you ignore Jesus
Notice your church
Understand Jesus' core message
Count all the people God wants to murder
Listen to the Doxology
Ask why religion causes so many problems
Understand evolution and abiogenesis
Notice that the Bible's author is not "all-knowing"
Think about life after death
Notice how many gods you reject
Think about communion
Examine God's sexism
Understand that religion is superstition
Talk to a theologian
Contemplate the crucifixion
Examine your health insurance policy
Notice Jesus' myopia
Realize that God is impossible
Think about DNA
Contemplate the divorce rate among Christians
Realize that Jesus was a jerk
Understand Christian motivations
Flip a coin
Listen when "God talks"
Realize that a "hidden God" is impossible
Think about a Christian housewife
Consider Noah's Ark
Ponder Pascal's Wager
Contemplate Creation
Compare prayer to a lucky horseshoe
Look at who speaks for God
Ask Jesus to appear
Bonus!

Compare God and Baal
Watch your Minister, Pastor or Priest
Think about Marriage in the Bible

They are not proofs in any objective sense. Are you twelve?

YIC

[jordannewton]

Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

The worst false religion....

How about all religion as none of it exists.

It is easy to prove to yourself that God is imaginary. The evidence is all around you. Here are 50 simple proofs:


Try praying
Statistically analyze prayer
Look at all historical gods
Think about science
Read the Bible
Ponder God's plan
Understand religious delusion
Think about Near Death Experiences
Understand ambiguity
Watch the offering plate
Notice that there is no scientific evidence
See the magic
Take a look at slavery
Examine Jesus' miracles
Examine Jesus' resurrection
Contemplate the contradictions
Think about Leprechauns
Imagine heaven
Notice that you ignore Jesus
Notice your church
Understand Jesus' core message
Count all the people God wants to murder
Listen to the Doxology
Ask why religion causes so many problems
Understand evolution and abiogenesis
Notice that the Bible's author is not "all-knowing"
Think about life after death
Notice how many gods you reject
Think about communion
Examine God's sexism
Understand that religion is superstition
Talk to a theologian
Contemplate the crucifixion
Examine your health insurance policy
Notice Jesus' myopia
Realize that God is impossible
Think about DNA
Contemplate the divorce rate among Christians
Realize that Jesus was a jerk
Understand Christian motivations
Flip a coin
Listen when "God talks"
Realize that a "hidden God" is impossible
Think about a Christian housewife
Consider Noah's Ark
Ponder Pascal's Wager
Contemplate Creation
Compare prayer to a lucky horseshoe
Look at who speaks for God
Ask Jesus to appear
Bonus!

Compare God and Baal
Watch your Minister, Pastor or Priest
Think about Marriage in the Bible

[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

Your "religion" may have more followers and my money then mine, but that does not make its "God" any more real.

Money and numbers are part of any legimate religion. And then there is the origin.

I think I read yours started in Kansas. Now, we all have to admit, Kansas is not the brightest porchlight on the block. People there can be suckers for whatever comes down the pike.

True Christians™ go back to the creation of the universe. Our people were there. They killed off people from other religions to save them. Now, we're the BIG of religions and have the money to show for it.

I'm just suggesting maybe Mr. Flying Pasta should come over to our side.

[Jo Freddie]

Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

For example, would you trust anything a Catholic priest told you about the sex abuse scandals rocking that institution?

No I wouldn't, but if for example I was researching The Menominee for example it would be valid to go to the Menominee to find out how they define themselves.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

Why don't you two heathens get a room somewhere? This is GOD's forum. Piss off!

[Didymus Much]

Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

...One can be ethnically Jewish without following the Jewish faith...

Ah, that's the thing. I do not refer to people by their (supposed) ethnicity (as it would only reveal my prejudices [I hope I've lost the last of those], and not anything about them). As well, ethnicity as a concept (one that I'm leery of, even when conceived with the best intentions) is only safely applied to large groups, not individuals (who all have unique histories).

I had hoped that followers of the FSM would be as enlightened.

And a little advice: for accuracy's sake, when researching a group, treat any information that group provides about themselves as suspect (self-interest may lead to mis- or even disinformation being given). For example, would you trust anything a Catholic priest told you about the sex abuse scandals rocking that institution?

[Jo Freddie]

Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

So you'd still refer to a Jewish-born Pastafarian as Jewish? Doesn't sound like the FSM values the right to self-determination.

Yes a Pastafarian born of a Jewish mother would be a Jewish Pastafarian, an ethnic Jew whose religion is Pastafarianism.

One can be ethnically Jewish without following the Jewish faith.

I had already given you examples of well know Jews who do not follow the Jewish faith.

Would you care to explain how ones parentage could possibly fall within the scope of self-determination?

[Didymus Much]

Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

A Jew is any person whose mother was a Jew...

So you'd still refer to a Jewish-born Pastafarian as Jewish? Doesn't sound like the FSM values the right to self-determination.

[Jo Freddie]

Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

Jews do not believe Jesus was the Messiah. Jesus thought He was. Therefore, Jesus was not a Jew.

A Jew is any person whose mother was a Jew.
Mary was Jewish.
You may have grounds to say he was not a practising Jew, but he was still a Jew, sort of like Woody Alan or Ayn Rand.

[Jo Freddie]

Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

We need to get something straight here. Just because a so-called "religion" has an invisible god, for example a Flying Elbow Macoroni, does not mean the invisible god is real.

To have an invisible god that the real, you need meet certain requirements. You need many more people believing it's real than you have in your pasta group. You need a lot more money as well.

Being untruthful about real invisible gods is putting your soul at risk.

Your "religion" may have more followers and my money then mine, but that does not make its "God" any more real.

The Flying Spaghetti Monster is not a hateful egomaniac so the current size of his following is no big deal to Him, if people want to believe, great, if not that is cool too, just be nice to each other.

[Didymus Much]

Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

...Inaccuracies: Jesus was Jewish himself, so you just insulted him...

Jews do not believe Jesus was the Messiah. Jesus thought He was. Therefore, Jesus was not a Jew.

...Muslims don't worship the Moon...

How much Muslim history have you read? Not much, obviously.

Sorry, I don't think this Guy hates Christians, and I think it says somewhere in the 'Big Book of Jesus' that the good guy preaches to say 'Love everybody' and actually forgives everyone by dying.

No, it doesn't. Read it for yourself (start here) and cure your ignorance.

[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: POLL: The Worst False Religion?

We have Holy Text, We have a Prophet, We have a Council that Canonises our Holy Text, and We have Ordained Ministers, We are just as real as any religion out there.

We need to get something straight here. Just because a so-called "religion" has an invisible god, for example a Flying Elbow Macoroni, does not mean the invisible god is real.

To have an invisible god that the real, you need meet certain requirements. You need many more people believing it's real than you have in your pasta group. You need a lot more money as well.

Being untruthful about real invisible gods is putting your soul at risk.