[Dr Laurence Niles]

God spoke to me the other day, SHE said ''the woman should not have to marry the man''.

Hm...... Lets see shall we?

John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?

So who should all the good people (and women and kids) on the worlds friendliest website believe about what sex Jesus' dad is?

Should we believe you (who, to be honest has some pretty extreme views) or God's actual son?

Let me ponder......
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[Brother Helge]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

On a serious note though, my point was going to be that rather than spending many hours trying to "correct" them, could you not simply allow them to follow their beliefs to whatever end?

So you say that I should stand idle while my child is speeding on the highway to Hell?
That is in truth the voice of a corrupted heart.

[Redeemed Papist]

I'd amost missed this one. Dear oh dear, I suppose you justify all the crimes of catholicism too?

Surely you are joking! The catholic idolators have utterly displeased my Lord with their vile apostasy.
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[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

I come with nothing but love

Rejecting Jesus is about as hateful as you can get. Don't come in here trying to confuse us about the difference between love and hate, either. We know the difference!

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

What if I rely on the Qur'an.
Is this not a similar level of evidence?

the disgusting koran is dictated by satan

it is full of hate crime and arbitrary prejudice

so no, it is not even a slightly similar level of evidence

[amy_fothers, Sceptical Atheist]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

Not much of an atheist, are you?

Sounds like you're hallucinating.

We'll be happy to forward your email address to certain Muslims we know who would love to meet with you and discuss your assertion that their moon demon is female, though.

I am worried you could not detect the sarcasm. Clearly I did not hallucinate God. I do not see God in anything, nor do I hear him/her in my head.

I feel giving out a persons e-mail address to any group is a dubious breach of privacy. Although I'm sure those same people would be very interested to read some of the hate-filled bile posted on this forum.

I come with nothing but love

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

God spoke to me the other day, SHE said ''the woman should not have to marry the man''. I may be wrong though, it was difficult to translate the muffled ancient muffled Arabic. Also, she called her self Allah, who knew eh?

Not much of an atheist, are you?

Sounds like you're hallucinating.

We'll be happy to forward your email address to certain Muslims we know who would love to meet with you and discuss your assertion that their moon demon is female, though.

[amy_fothers, Sceptical Atheist]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

People have personal witnesses about Shiva, the Wiccan god and goddess, and just about any other false gods you care to name. Can you explain to us, without relying on the Bible, how you know that your personal witness is right and theirs is wrong?

What if I rely on the Qur'an.
Is this not a similar level of evidence?

[Liberalism-satan's philosophy]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

Fortunately, our children will never know the sacrifices we at the forefront of the War on Morality go through daily in order to safeguard them from people like you.

But if they did not recognize you as a vile sinner, I would talk with them and pray over them. I would probably even call Uncle Zeke over to pray with the boys.

We have ways of correcting bad behavior that don't even always involve the rod of discipline.

Don't ALWAYS involve the rod of discipline"?! Careful, you're starting to sound a bit liberal...

On a serious note though, my point was going to be that rather than spending many hours trying to "correct" them, could you not simply allow them to follow their beliefs to whatever end? We were each created ( we weren't, but for the purposes of this I'm pretending we were) with free will, were we not? Why would that be so if we were not meant to act on it?

If this free will causes a child of yours to disagree with you, would it not be better to let them meet their own end, safe in the knowledge that you can continue the life you choose? Stating you don't always use corporal punishment infers that sometimes you do. I can't imagine that any consent given under such circumstances is truly willing, so your efforts are ultimately futile anyway, so why bother?

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

That's the beauty of having a personal witness about the divinity of Christ it's yours and no-one elses.

People have personal witnesses about Shiva, the Wiccan god and goddess, and just about any other false gods you care to name. Can you explain to us, without relying on the Bible, how you know that your personal witness is right and theirs is wrong?

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

I'd amost missed this one. Dear oh dear, I suppose you justify all the crimes of catholicism too?

Of course not. They have fallen away from the Truth and God has turned them over to their lusts and depravity. It's all in Romans 1.

28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

[Liberalism-satan's philosophy]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

Not at all. For starters he was a catholic.
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I'd amost missed this one. Dear oh dear, I suppose you justify all the crimes of catholicism too?

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

That's probably as close as I'll ever get to you accepting my right to offer alternate views...

Out of curiosity, if one of your children (I'm assuming you have children in case you need to sell one) were to see my "example" and not consider me a "depraved sinner", how would you react to that?

Fortunately, our children will never know the sacrifices we at the forefront of the War on Morality go through daily in order to safeguard them from people like you.

But if they did not recognize you as a vile sinner, I would talk with them and pray over them. I would probably even call Uncle Zeke over to pray with the boys.

We have ways of correcting bad behavior that don't even always involve the rod of discipline.

[Liberalism-satan's philosophy]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

Surely there's a reason for that. Perhaps the Lord is keeping you around as a good example of a bad example. Who knows how many children have come into contact with you, thought about how they don't want to end up as a depraved sinner like you, then ran home to start reading their Bibles.

PRAISE HIM and all His Infinite Wisdom!

That's probably as close as I'll ever get to you accepting my right to offer alternate views...

Out of curiosity, if one of your children (I'm assuming you have children in case you need to sell one) were to see my "example" and not consider me a "depraved sinner", how would you react to that?

[Bob4God]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

Genocide has no place in anyone's will.

The Bible and GOD would heartily disagree with you there.

Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. - 1 Samuel 15:3