[Bobby-Joe]

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I see nothing in my life that requires repentance. I do my best to be a good person, and I think that is that is really necessary.

Friend,

The Bible clearly teach us that without God there is no virtue, only utter depravity. Therefor Jesus tells us there is no way a tree botherer like you can be good.

[BadAssButterfly (On Moderation)]

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Friend,

The Bible clearly teach us that without God there is no virtue, only utter depravity. Therefor Jesus tells us there is no way a tree botherer like you can be good.

Perhaps you require the threat of eternal damnation to keep you in line and make you behave. Not everyone needs to have hell hanging over them to make them be good people. They just do the right thing because it's the right thing to do.

[Bobby-Joe]

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Perhaps you require the threat of eternal damnation to keep you in line and make you behave. Not everyone needs to have hell hanging over them to make them be good people. They just do the right thing because it's the right thing to do.

Dear Silly Pagan,

Human beings are purely selfish and have no frame of reference to tell what is "good". What you think is "good" is done out of pure self motivation. Sure, you may not fear hell, but you do fear reprisal from your fellow human beings. Since God is the only thing that fears nothing on He is in a position to be selfless.

[OnYourKnees]

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I see nothing in my life that requires repentance. I do my best to be a good person, and I think that is that is really necessary.

How about reviewing a book for Jesus?

[BadAssButterfly (On Moderation)]

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Dear Silly Pagan,

Human beings are purely selfish and have no frame of reference to tell what is "good". What you think is "good" is done out of pure self motivation. Sure, you may not fear hell, but you do fear reprisal from your fellow human beings. Since God is the only thing that fears nothing on He is in a position to be selfless.

Actually, I don't do good out of fear of reprisal. For example:

I give food to the food bank because there are hungry people who need food. I'm not worried that someone will punish me if I don't.

I treat animals kindly because to treat them unkindly is harmful to them and I do not wish to harm them. While cruelty to animals is a crime in my state, I would not be cruel to animals even if it were perfectly legal.

I garden organically because I do not wish my family to eat toxic fertilizer, herbicide, and pesticide residue found in much commercial produce. No one would punish me if I put weed-and-feed on my garden. I just think it's not a good thing to do, so I don't do it.

I give to other people out of my material goods if I have them to spare and they need them, because they need them and I have extra. No one would punish me if I refused to share. I do it because it's the right thing to do.

[OnYourKnees]

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Actually, I don't do good out of fear of reprisal. For example:
I want to review a book for Jesus!

Much better.

[Warrior in Christ]

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Much better.

I agree Brother! It seems as though this one doesn't care if satan has control of her or not...

[BadAssButterfly (On Moderation)]

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How about reviewing a book for Jesus?

Fine.
Nikos Kazantzakis' The Last Temptation of Christ. A truly beautiful portrayal of the human side of Jesus. In fact, Kazantzakis said that the writing of it strengthened his own faith in Jesus.

[Brother Temperance]

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How ironic that you posted this a mere week before that druggie was struck dead by Jesus. Well, he was actually pushed down a flight of stairs by Jesus a while back and took a while to succumb; same thing.

Ironic nothing, it is a simple case of cause and effect. As soon as I realised how truly vile and blasphemous Cat's Cradle was, I began praying for Jesus to send that spiteful old fool to the pit where he belongs, and my prayers were answered in record time. Praise!

Actually, I don't do good out of fear of reprisal. For example:

I give food to the food bank because there are hungry people who need food. I'm not worried that someone will punish me if I don't.

I treat animals kindly because to treat them unkindly is harmful to them and I do not wish to harm them. While cruelty to animals is a crime in my state, I would not be cruel to animals even if it were perfectly legal.

I garden organically because I do not wish my family to eat toxic fertilizer, herbicide, and pesticide residue found in much commercial produce. No one would punish me if I put weed-and-feed on my garden. I just think it's not a good thing to do, so I don't do it.

I give to other people out of my material goods if I have them to spare and they need them, because they need them and I have extra. No one would punish me if I refused to share. I do it because it's the right thing to do.

Do you believe your made-up tree goddess will reward you in the afterlife? Or is she just completely indifferent to all human vice and virtue?

[BadAssButterfly (On Moderation)]

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Ironic nothing, it is a simple case of cause and effect. As soon as I realised how truly vile and blasphemous Cat's Cradle was, I began praying for Jesus to send that spiteful old fool to the pit where he belongs, and my prayers were answered in record time. Praise!

Do you believe your made-up tree goddess will reward you in the afterlife? Or is she just completely indifferent to all human vice and virtue?

Actually, I don't believe in afterlife rewards or punishments.

And to me, all deities are not literal beings, but simply archetypes that I use as reminders of what it means to be a decent person. Kind of like post-it notes on my spiritual bulletin board.

[Warrior in Christ]

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Actually, I don't believe in afterlife rewards or punishments.

And to me, all deities are not literal beings, but simply archetypes that I use as reminders of what it means to be a decent person. Kind of like post-it notes on my spiritual bulletin board.

Well, you know what that means pagan!?

Deuteronomy 17:2-5
"If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which
the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath
wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in
transgressing his covenant, And hath gone and served other
gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any
of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; And it be
told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired
diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain,
that such abomination is wrought in Israel: Then shalt thou
bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed
that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that
woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die."

Other gods also means NOT THE TRUE GOD. You're lucky that secular law doesn't allow such things. But I'm sure it could be arranged...

[Bobby-Joe]

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Silly pagan,

Actually, I don't do good out of fear of reprisal. For example:

I give food to the food bank because there are hungry people who need food. I'm not worried that someone will punish me if I don't.

Because you would want someone to do the same if you were hungry.

I treat animals kindly because to treat them unkindly is harmful to them and I do not wish to harm them. While cruelty to animals is a crime in my state, I would not be cruel to animals even if it were perfectly legal. .

You do not want people to be cruel to you.

I garden organically because I do not wish my family to eat toxic fertilizer, herbicide, and pesticide residue found in much commercial produce. No one would punish me if I put weed-and-feed on my garden. I just think it's not a good thing to do, so I don't do it. .

Not poisoning yourself is not virtue. This only reinforces my point that you don’t even know what virtue is.

[BadAssButterfly (On Moderation)]

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Silly pagan,


Because you would want someone to do the same if you were hungry.

While I would hope that someone would do the same for me if I were hungry, that's not why I do it.

You do not want people to be cruel to you.

While I do not want people to be cruel to me, I would not inflict cruelty even if I experienced it.

Not poisoning yourself is not virtue. This only reinforces my point that you don’t even know what virtue is.

Making sure my family has healthful food is.

[Brother Temperance]

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Actually, I don't believe in afterlife rewards or punishments.

And to me, all deities are not literal beings, but simply archetypes that I use as reminders of what it means to be a decent person. Kind of like post-it notes on my spiritual bulletin board.

What on earth is the point of a "god" you don't believe in, you singularly muddle-headed ape?

[BadAssButterfly (On Moderation)]

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What on earth is the point of a "god" you don't believe in, you singularly muddle-headed ape?

You seem to be the one in a muddle - go back and read the post again. I see deities as ways of reminding ourselves what it means to be a decent person. I have no need for them to dispense afterlife rewards and punishments like so much Pez.